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Steve Jobs Taking New Medical Leave of Absence
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Look into pancreatic cancer, specifically the kind that the whipple procedure is used in.
This isn't the place to discuss religion and it was off topic anyway.
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MacRumors has it's own dedicated forum for all that sort of stuff but you need to make 100 posts before you can contribute there.
I would argue there's very real evidence that what Leander Kahney termed 'the Cult of Mac' is a modern day equivalent of traditional religion. Before books and newspapers, we used word of mouth. Before radio, we used newspapers. Before TV we used cinema.
Word of mouth was spread by meetings in town squares. So people flocked to the town square. Then people read books in churches. Newspapers and then radio heralded a period in which we began to stay at home to get the information more and more. Movies got us out of the house as cinemas became the new churches. Then TV drew us back indoors again and the churches and cinemas fell empty.
Next came computers. Now no-one goes out anymore, and the state saves a fortune on road repairs!
We have computers because of Steve Jobs. Okay there was Woz as well, but if Woz had his way we'd still be building our own! And yes, a whole bunch of others followed, but they did follow.
Therefore Steve Jobs' health is important to us, because he's become something close to a deity. It's not unfair to claim we DO indeed 'worship' him, if not in the old fashioned religious sense, then in a modern, arguably much more enlightened way. And by 'enlightened' I mean we are not ignorant of his true powers. We do not, generally, ascribe superhuman or mythical powers to him. Instead we are informed enough to KNOW what he's done and why he's successful.
However, Steve is a modern phenomenon who in olden times would also have been held up as a man of great importance. His foresight is remarkable for any human. But he's also extraordinary within his own discipline, and among his peers. And without ascribing any undue praise, it's very difficult to name anyone living who's achieved as much. Let's not forget, he even performed a second coming!
So, if Steve Jobs has no living peers who are equal to him, what are we to call him?
Sports players and musicians are claimed to be 'heroes'. Doctors are said to have performed 'miracles' when they save a life or sew back on a severed limb. And someone who can learn how to fix a computer has been elevated from 'geek' or electronics 'wizz'... to 'Genius'®.
There's little doubt that those sports people are well crafted in their game, but heroes? Doctors are amazing, but drugs, medical science and skill are surely the reasons more of us survive for longer, following accidents and illness, and more often. And computer technicians are no more 'Geniuses' than Steve Tyler is a guitar 'hero'.
I happen to believe there is now adequate evidence that humans, most often men, invented all the gods since the beginning of time, to explain the unexplained and unexplainable, and proscribe morals and behaviour in order to control populations as they grew beyond the family groups and village size.
So, if in the 21st Century it's utterly illogical to believe in any 'gods', is it equally illogical to be creating new ones? Or is there space in our lives for genuine heroes, real geniuses, and the recognition of the witnessed miracle that has been Apple's remarkable turnaround, lead by Steve Jobs?
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"Gods" don't die. Jobs is a man, a driven man who became far more stubborn and vindictive (flash and blu-ray wars) and less responsive to his customers as well as his fans as he got older.
But the money kept the hype machine going. Boy, did it EVER keep the hype machine going.
Now Apple is going to have to start listening to their customers.
And making a better more cutting edge product (liked they USED to) that serves their computer customers' needs as much as toys that serve eight to eighteen year olds' needs.
No, the whole world ISN'T going mobile, and much of it won't ever.
As a long time Mac user I have become completely frustrated with Apple's desktop line up. Only the Mac Pro stands as an example of what Mac's used to be. Practical and sensible design. Apple needs to come up with a practical and sensible design for a consumer desktop.
Suction cups and putty knives should not be needed to add RAM or replace a hard drive. Case needs to be large enough to offer some jacks and ports on the front for ease of use. Build a fast consumer desktop that doesn't have a built in monitor.
People first went with Macs because they were good basic computers that just worked. Apple needs that kind of product again. Too many compromises regarding function are being made just to have the smallest thinnest case.
Make a bigger mini, or xMac or whatever. I would cater just a little to the mobile crowd. Put two docks on top of the xMac for charging mobile devices. Maybe even have built in speakers for iPod playback with the computer off.
The beauty of a xMac is a larger case would give it more functionality.
RE: Customers
Careful what you wish for... Apple now has more customers for their "toys that serve eight to eighteen year olds' needs", so if they were to actually listen to their customer base, the bulk of the base would want more toys, not better computers.
Steve at least has some parental attachment to the Mac.
Careful what you wish for... Apple now has more customers for their "toys that serve eight to eighteen year olds' needs", so if they were to actually listen to their customer base, the bulk of the base would want more toys, not better computers.
Steve at least has some parental attachment to the Mac.
I took it off because people took it too far just because I posted something that came from wikileaks. It's the people who like to start things and take it too far. Obviously I was just trying to show everyone what it may have caused the medical leave of absence & of course people like to hear them talk, or type in this case.
"Gods" don't die. Jobs is a man, a driven man who became far more stubborn and vindictive (flash and blu-ray wars) and less responsive to his customers as well as his fans as he got older.
But the money kept the hype machine going. Boy, did it EVER keep the hype machine going.
Now Apple is going to have to start listening to their customers.
And making a better more cutting edge product (liked they USED to) that serves their computer customers' needs as much as toys that serve eight to eighteen year olds' needs.
No, the whole world ISN'T going mobile, and much of it won't ever.
Since "Gods" don't really exist, how can they die?
Describing Steve Jobs simply as "a man, a driven man who became far more stubborn and vindictive (flash and blu-ray wars) and less responsive to his customers as well as his fans as he got older." is about as simplistic and narrow-minded a view point as I've ever come across.
Flash is utterly flawed. Macromedia's response to the issues and the challenge offered by Apple was wholly inadequate. Anything they do now to rectify an issue that's existed for years is far too late and represents woeful neglect of an important customer base. Steve Jobs is right to point that out and to punish them for their lack of respect for... us.
Steve has explained the lack of Blu-ray players in Apple products as being due to the cost of the units. Having studied the uptake of new technology on Apple products for some 30 years, I've come to realise that we've always had the best first. For Blu-ray to be an adoration in that process would take a breakdown in the procedures that make Apple successful. I don't see that happening. But if you can point to some evidence to the contrary...
If there's one thing guaranteed to cause me to wake up in a cold sweat, it's the same thing that will kill Apple: a successor to Steve Jobs who lacks the courage, the foresight and the intuition to ignore the pathetic bleatings of users who think they know what they want/need. I don't include the 'more USB/Firewire ports etc' element, I mean those, like you, who fail to recognise when they really aren't Apple customers at all, but aspirational Dell users who just want to ride the cool train.
In the early 19th Century, around 200 years ago, there existed The Luddites, a social movement of British textile artisans who protested – often by destroying mechanised looms – against the changes produced by the Industrial Revolution, which they felt were leaving them without work and changing their way of life.
Whilst one can sympathise with individuals fearful of losing their jobs, I find it incomprehensible that anyone, faced with all the evidence that exists today, could possibly believe that computing as we know it isn't going through a radical change. Collecting one's messages on the move without going back to the office or dropping into a net cafe began more than 10 years ago. If you push really hard, I'm sure you'll dislodge that gigantic lump of ignorance you've been hiding under for so long.
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Its is always amazing how many people in this forum know what Apple needs to do and what it does wrong. Sounds like you are giving advise to a company that is loosing millions every year.
Did you already apply as new CEO for Apple, sure they can use your vision and the direction you are going ....
No. But I do know that as a long time Mac user none of Apple's current consumer computers are anything I want to spend money on. I admit that I will probably have to settle for a mini since I am not going to buy an all in one.
I would accept a iMac or mini if it were given to me.
I would camp outside an Apple store for a mid range Mac without a monitor.
I'm glad Apple is successful. I just wish it had a computer I wanted so I could help it be successful.
What is your objection to all in one computers?
If you'd been to a computer store and seen all the very seriously ugly attempts by Windows PC manufacturers to mimic the iMac, and then rejected the concept - without ever actually trying or even seeing an iMac, I might understand your objections. But I've got the 24" iMac as my personal desktop and I can only find one fault in it - it isn't a 27" iMac!
The lack of cables linking the computer and screen alone deserves a good 60% of the votes in favour of the concept. Aesthetics [which only applies to Apple] account for a further 30%. And this is after 2 years use. Early on I derived far too much pleasure to be truly healthy from responding to questions from Windoze PC owners wondering where the rest of it was.
What's not to like? If you're seriously considering a Mini, then you surely aren't influenced by any alleged lack of power issues. We appear to be left with one answer: you can't afford an iMac. Then do what I did: save up until you can.
Agreed. As a long-time Power Mac owner, I thought an AIO would be a compromise. Not "professional" you see. I couldn't have been more wrong. I don't miss my noisy towers and extra wires at all. I think the iMac is the perfect computer for the vast majority of computer users, be they "professionals" or just home users.
I'm not a long time mac user (bought my first iMac when the intel machines came out) ... In the meantime I have several macs (iMac and MacBooks) , last year I dumped the last windows machine that was in my household (my wife's windows laptop finally died and got replaced with a MacBook). They offer speed wise and memory wise more than I need (even for my video editing with final cut). I'm only waiting for the SSD drives to become available in bigger sizes at affordable prices (upgraded one MacBook to SSD, that is ('feels') now insane fast).
I also don't miss the times where I constantly was 'optimizing' my ugly loud (windows) towers and replacing components. It was necessary back than, but with the specs these days, the machines are perfect for 99% of the home users.
Monitor dies - throw away a perfectly good computer.
Motherboard dies - throw away a perfectly good monitor.
Need bigger monitor - throw away a perfectly good computer.
Need faster CPU - throw away a perfectly good monitor.
Need better graphics - throw away a perfectly good computer and monitor.
Need a PCI card option - throw away a perfectly good computer and monitor.
Get the picture?
Hey guess what, this may sound crazy but bear with me here:
THE IMAC ISN'T FOR YOU!
What an amazing concept right?
I recently had to buy a new monitor. I do not need or have room for two monitors. Plus it is the way Apple sells the iMac. Only glossy screens and if you want the fastest CPU you have to get the biggest screen.
Yes, I may get a mini. Not because of what it has (slow drive, etc) but because of what it doesn't have (built in screen). I could buy a third party external drive and boot from that and have a faster computer. I'd much rather buy an Apple computer that comes with fast drives internally that lets me choose my monitor. Easy to get into with basic tools, no putty knives or suction cups. Only the Mac Pro starting at $2499 does that. I think that is a high price to pay for getting what I consider basic requirements.
Bigger mini with better specs or headless iMac in a medium sized case priced at $1500 that lets me use the monitor I already have is what I'm looking for.
Hey guess what, this may sound crazy but bear with me here:
THE IMAC ISN'T FOR YOU!
What an amazing concept right?
People who are used to components frequently going belly-up (read: PC people) need that assurance they can easily pop open a case and replace one crap component with another crap component.
As for me, I have 3 iMacs in my house. Two original 20" Intel models (4-5 years old now?) and a 24" aluminum. Guess how many motherboards and displays have died on me?
Zero.
And when one of the old iMacs finally does die, it will be time to replace it entirely anyway.
I've owned/built my own PCs before. I'm familiar with the "swappable parts" model. I'm not going back there.
Nope. And no jet cars for you either, George Jetson.
If that is parental attachment, social services needed to take custody two years ago.
Nope. You can stay put just where you are. I'm doing just fine under you, thanks so much! (Besides, I can't bench press that much.)
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