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Steve Jobs Taking New Medical Leave of Absence
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Genuine LOL at this post. One can only hope this guy is posting tongue-in-cheek. If he's serious I hope he seeks help immediately.
Someone is in deep denial & woefully unaware of SJ's true condition.
After the diagnosis and prior procedures have been published, there is little question about the gravity.
The post you have been so judgmental of, I found compassionate and very dignified.
If you're not his doctor, you should avoid presenting your speculation as fact. It is disgusting.
If you're his doctor, you should be fired. (I'll guess not on this one).
Either way...
Some people have an incredibly twisted perception of innovation.
Koolaid comes in red, green, yellow and blue too you see.
It's amazing Billy G still gets so many head nods when he either bought or borrowed many of the products that became his bread and butter (Windows & Office). And don't forget the very real fact he had to attain and maintain dominance of those products by hook or by crook (based on the conclusion of pretty much every court in the civilized world). And we've all seen Microsoft's complete failure to innovate outside of those two core products. Gates is a charlatan. No matter how many billions he gives away.
Let the dinosaurs continue to worship at Redmond's altar. It won't change the future.
It's a shame the laughable Gates praise has to be trumpeted in a thread about Steve Jobs' health. Stay classy, Redmond Horde.
Wow. . I took a hiatus from Rumors and return to this beautiful stuff . . I hope you get better Steve.
Steve Jobs - builder of shiny things
Well, note where CNN put the story on Jobs:
Steve Jobs - builder of shiny things
Bill Gates - Philanthropist
Well, note where CNN put the story on Jobs:
Steve Jobs - builder of shiny things
Bill Gates - Philanthropist
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Jobs has not created anything for the creative content pros who made Apple what it was and gave it its cutting edge cachet for years now.
On the contrary, he's crapped on them at every possible turn. From glossy screens to his fetish against flash and Blu-ray, now onto optical drives, the dead end of Shake, and the almost fatal lagging of Logic and FCS.
Jobs would be happy if NO ONE EVER used a mac to edit a movie or record a CD ever again, because he was happiest selling toys to kids.
While just fine for him, it created a MASSIVE bubble in the bottom line of apple that is NOT good and there will be hell to pay when it pops, too.
There's really nothing anyone sane can say to this but WTF!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I thought you had to be thirteen years old to join this forum?
Shiny toys is more like it these last few years. NOW maybe Apple will get back to creating cutting edge computers for the grownups with M-O-N-E-Y.
Or for the love of God, just equal time for a change...
Yeah, right. Bill Gates was/is a clever businessman. Or more precise: a clever plagiarist. But I doubt history will remember him as a man with a vision as Steve Jobs. In fact, MS seems to carry this particular can for a while already, because in most cases when they come out with a "future concept" in order to prove otherwise, it had the smell of "trying too hard". And failed.
Yeah, right. Bill Gates was/is a clever businessman. Or more precise: a clever plagiarist. But I doubt history will remember him as a man with a vision as Steve Jobs. In fact, MS seems to carry this particular can for a while already, because in most cases when they come out with a "future concept" in order to prove otherwise, it had the smell of "trying too hard". And failed.
Jobs had a vision for expensive toys for the well-to-do. Gates was instrumental in bringing cheap computing to the masses, and then dedicated his time and money to philanthropy.
Once history distances people from their shiny toys, one will stand out for helping to advance society - and it won't be the toymaker.
My friend I am quite well aware of the history, gravity and circumstance of the mans health.
Most of the side effects are caused by the anti-rejection drugs on the rest of the recipients body... Not the actual organ transplanted itself.
Unlike some I am not a half glass empty person myself...
Compassion is one thing... The link to a dead guy 2000 years ago who no person actually knows yet thousands of evangelicals and priests ask for money for in the name of that mythical person for profit....is yet another!
In my opinion MS's market share is not really the result of offering innovative or exceptionally user friendly operating systems, though, but rather the result of some extremely clever business strategies a few decades ago, which manifested in a near monopoly and therefore control. Feature wise, the first windows systems were probably laughable compared to offerings other computers (for instance the Amiga) had years earlier. Gates brought cheap computing to the masses - but at the same token I believe Gates lacked the drive, the vision, to push the whole computing experience to a better, more user friendly level in the years afterwards. He is too much of a nerd, IMHO
That is indeed a very honorable attitude. I applaud him for that
Steve
You managed to bring Apple back to fantastic health, perhaps now it's time to work the same magic on yourself!
Get well soon.
Kevin
You managed to bring Apple back to fantastic health, perhaps now it's time to work the same magic on yourself!
Get well soon.
Kevin
If he had HIV he wouldn't be that thin. This isn't the 80s man, medicine has come a long way and people with HIV can expect to live up to 50 years.
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Being an HIV prevention volunteer, the main thing isn't whether SJ has HIV or not, but that he does have some sort of serious health issue (my guess, pancreatic cancer) and it's serious enough for him to take a leave of absence.
As for people living 50 years with HIV/AIDS, that is an unknown but still a possibility if not longer. For an average of 10 years to sero-convert from HIV to a symptomatic state of pre-AIDS or AIDS, and the first confirmed cases having happened about 30 years ago, the longest confirmed life expectancy, with medications, would be slightly over 40 years. Sure, we know there are blood samples from half a century ago, but as to a person with HIV, and having taken the drug cocktail and being around 50 years later, there's not a big enough sample to make a determination.
Had the first major outbreak of AIDS been in 1970, and a ten year incubation period to full blown symptoms was known to be ten years, then experts would say that a person could live 50 years with surviving patients to be here to prove it. 40 years plus 10 years equals 50 years.
The AIDS cocktail of what was pretty much known drugs at the time for a long time, has been a Godsend. Basically since it's wide distribution in 1996, people at a 10 year state of full blown AIDS have lived well to the present. So, as far reaching as a prediction that could be made, by just doing the math would be approx. 25 years living with HIV/AIDS.
Some people had been full blown AIDS for years before they got the drug cocktail so one could possibly say 30+ years. And for those who got infected after full blown AIDS was diagnosed in a patient, the early intervention will definitely make a difference and give more than three decades.
Until this disease is either cured, or if its around for another ten years with some of the earliest patients from the early 1980s still living, nobody will be able to say for sure if the current drug cocktail will keep a person alive for 50 years.
That being said, HIV/AIDS patients now have a chronic disease as opposed to a terminal disease and life expectancy can be similar, if not more than, people who have type II diabetes. However, an awful aspect of type II diabetes, is that by the time a person finds out they have symptoms and goes to a doctor, it's often too late. And even if a person detects type II diabetes early, simple medical technology and lifestyle change can't save a person.
My friends who have died from type II diabetes had to make an incredibly radical change in lifestyle and because they couldn't do it, they all died. Maybe one day medical science can find a cure, or a better treatment which can rely on the medication and not so much on a person's will power to change their habits in a way which is nearly impossible.
Anyway, rant over about HIV and type II diabetes, and for all we know, sure, it's possible SJ has one or both of these in addition to pancreatic cancer, but the main thing is he is doing the right thing by taking care of himself.
Very informative post
I got way off topic.
Anyway, pancreatic cancer, even the less aggressive types, are a far more dangerous threat to a person's life than HIV and don't usually carry a long prognosis. That being said, my friend's dad was stage IV with same pancreatic cancer and was given months to live, and he lived 6 years from that advanced stage of cancer without chemotherapy or radiation.
I am not saying SJ is going to die anytime soon, or even of pancreatic cancer. I think the stress of just running Apple Inc for many 55 years olds would kill them. I can't think of a more heart attack hot seat than having everybody wait for you to pull another rabbit out of a hat, and when you don't, have people blast you. That and the love-hate relationship with the press pretty much makes an already stressful job have the added headache of being considered a celebrity.
For those who think SJ should work until the day he falls over, why?
Ominous phrase in Jobs' message re: return to Apple
Jobs' comments about his health are always carefully crafted. In this latest comment, there is what I think is an ominous phrase. Instead of saying "I hope to be back soon", or "I will be back as soon as I can", both of which imply that he knows he will eventually be back, he instead combines both, leaving open the possibility that he will not return: "I love Apple so much and hope to be back as soon as I can."
Also, "I love Apple so much" sounds a little too emotional for him, and rings like a goodbye.
My first post, be gentle!
Jobs' comments about his health are always carefully crafted. In this latest comment, there is what I think is an ominous phrase. Instead of saying "I hope to be back soon", or "I will be back as soon as I can", both of which imply that he knows he will eventually be back, he instead combines both, leaving open the possibility that he will not return: "I love Apple so much and hope to be back as soon as I can."
Also, "I love Apple so much" sounds a little too emotional for him, and rings like a goodbye.
My first post, be gentle!
That's a pretty keen observation. Even without that language, being the third time he's leaving his CEO post is a pretty good indication that he will probably not be back anytime soon, and probably should stay home.
If there is any good time to retire, now is it.
Nobody would want Apple to be run by a person with such a chronic, and possibly fatal condition. Apple is in good shape and there does not appear to be anything he could do to keep or improve Apple's financial position (being that the company posted record profits again). You can't go up from being #1, and Apple has reached the peak and will likely stay there long after Steve Jobs.
Nothing ominous in Job's letter. This was planned and executed to a tee, like everything Apple does.
Can't find blog post I read earlier but the gist is...
Earnings were announced in the third week of the month when for the last 15 or so quarters, they were done in the 4th week of the month. The date was set over a month ago.
Monday was a holiday so the press release could go out and the stock market was closed. Stopped panic selling.
Can't find blog post I read earlier but the gist is...
Earnings were announced in the third week of the month when for the last 15 or so quarters, they were done in the 4th week of the month. The date was set over a month ago.
Monday was a holiday so the press release could go out and the stock market was closed. Stopped panic selling.