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Steve Jobs to Give WWDC 2007 Keynote
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"Just waiting on the man" to get my icrack, sorry I mean, imac. Sheez, I thought there would have been new news by now.
They BUILT the five new employees, with the help of Honda's Asimo team. Each one can do the work of ten men.
This article http://arstechnica.com/staff/fatbits.ars/2006/8/15/4995
I read a while ago had me fairly convinced that ZFS snapshot functionality was not going to be utilized for Time Machine backups. Have you seen things which would indicate that this guy's logic is flawed?
Well i'm glad that you have the money to purchase things that are highy suspected to be updated, in two months time, so you can buy it again.
if in nov you wanted iwork06 knowing that iwork07 was going to be released in two months, knowing that the new version would probably have things that you would want, would you buy both versions, or wait for the new one?
if you deciede to wait for the new one, and then the product update disappears (has there been any word on iwork? offically?) and each time its rumored (I guess my fault for listening to rumors but...) wouldn't you be annoyed?
Apple hasn't taken any steps to hide this feature. They even are filing defects in a public bug database.
C'MON.. we're not whining. The reality of the situation is that Apple, Inc. hasn't released a new computer (aside from a bto update to the mac pro) in forever... All we've heard is iphone,
tv, leopard coming soon, a new airport.Time for new computers, new ipods, new apps (that more than 1% of mac users use), and the new OS.
Consider me a whiner but this has gone on way too long....
Well, tomorrow being a Wednesday, maybe something will happen. The last 2 new computer updates were released on a Wednesday.
Wednesday is the new Tuesday.
A new computer is just a new computer. Its the same things on the internals. Is it that big of a deal? Really? You have had 8 Core Mac Pros and a new form factor MacBook in the last year. Nothing prolific but this has been in the midst of a change to Intel processors which really was a big deal. To have maintained their momentum during the switch has been a significant achievement. And now that they have rolled out the living room play and the iPhone in a couple of months, I expect them to really push forward on all 3 fronts. But you cant expect miracles. For any business, venturing into two brand new markets in the space of 6 months is no mean feat. Something had to give, and it was Leopard. 4 months is nothing though. And lets not forget it will be feature complete in just 1 months time.
I remember when I first signed up on this board and everybody was saying Apple should make a set top box, an iPhone, a full screen iPod etc. And they have done all of this and yet there are still a lot of people bitching. Its incredible. Im not saying its you, but it appears to be a growing number of people. To them I say sit back, chill out, and enjoy the ride.
Yeah but they've had a fullscreen iPod for ages.
We need a widescreen one!
Just kidding, 4:3 is more appropriate generally for my shows anyway!
You're right, overall, though. The amount apple has rolled out is pretty amazing.
I don't understand what people are complaining about anyway. There are no new processors for them to even use!
People can complain after 5/5/07 when they haven't immediately adopted Santa Rosa..
...This excludes the Mac Mini.
I agree 100 percent. It all makes sense now. iPhone runs OSX Leopard, Macs run OSX leopard. There is going to be tight integration between iPhone and Macs.
I have a feeling that is all the secret features we are going to see.
But we must be prepared for anything.
I sure hope we see some new machines before the WWDC. I mean, c'mon, the only new computer shipped all year is the 8 core. While very cool and very, very fast, most people aren't going to buy that. Most of the other machines haven't been updated since Sept. '06. Nine months without an update seems a bit long. Where are the new iMacs and minis? Leopard or not they are overdue!
64 Bit Growing Pains Ahead?
I am not a programmer (yet) so please bear with me, but does this mean that there is likely going to be a lot of growing pains like third party interoperability problems with Leopard that we haven't seen in previous 32-bit OS X iterations?
Ah yes that line again...
(note Leopard is a very large undertaking given the exposure of 64-bit frameworks and the removal of legacy APIs that then had to be backfilled with modern APIs... this is a LOT of work, testing and feedback from 3rd party developers)
I am not a programmer (yet) so please bear with me, but does this mean that there is likely going to be a lot of growing pains like third party interoperability problems with Leopard that we haven't seen in previous 32-bit OS X iterations?
Is the glass half-full or half-empty?
Here's the way I see it: Apple is much more dedicated to building great products, as well as much more in tune with its customer base, than almost any other company I can think of. This being the case, I feel fortunate that Apple exists at all and I am happy to buy whatever they're selling. If it's Leopard in April with the most killer feature set ever seen, that's totally cool. And if it's Leopard in October with just the features that everybody already knows about, that's great too. Either way, Leopard is sure to be an impressive upgrade to an already world-class operating system running on the most elegant hardware in the known universe. What's not to like?
Here's the way I see it: Apple is much more dedicated to building great products, as well as much more in tune with its customer base, than almost any other company I can think of. This being the case, I feel fortunate that Apple exists at all and I am happy to buy whatever they're selling. If it's Leopard in April with the most killer feature set ever seen, that's totally cool. And if it's Leopard in October with just the features that everybody already knows about, that's great too. Either way, Leopard is sure to be an impressive upgrade to an already world-class operating system running on the most elegant hardware in the known universe. What's not to like?
AMEN.
EDIT: wow, that's scary, I posted my amen before I saw his ^. We must be having a REVIVAL here!
Lordy, I have seeen the LIGHT! We're on a mission from GAWD!!
Leopard continues to support existing 32-bit applications. Apple takes a lot of steps to ensure backwards compatibility, often the only time it doesn't workout is if the developer is doing hackish things that attempts to go around the abstractions that Apple puts in place.
So no I wouldn't expect growing pains... however developers attempting to bring out 64-bit versions of their application may have some growing pains (because it is new for them as Mac OS X developers) but 64-bit isn't being required.
What logic? He correctly indicates that ZFS isn't being used for Time Machine in its current implemention, but I don't see him making any arguments about why it won't be used for the final release.
As it stands now, Time Machine creates a series of date-stamped directories on its partition, each of which contains a virtual copy of the entire hard drive. To avoid "really" having multiple copies of the entire drive, it uses hard links to link unchanged files to their earlier versions, and only physically stores modified files.
Switching this structure over to ZFS should be a piece of cake. You just rip out the logic that creates the date-stamped directories and replace it with a call to "zfs snapshot", and alter the directory names you're using to match the ZFS snapshot names. And we're done -- Time Machine is now using ZFS snapshots. As someone who programs for a living, I'm loathe to call a problem "easy" without firsthand experience, but it really does seem like this should be brain-dead simple.
The other question we need to answer is "So if they planned on using ZFS, why implement it using HFS+ first?" There are two obvious answers. First, Apple may simply have wanted to keep ZFS quiet for some reason. Second (and more likely), ZFS support simply wasn't ready -- so the engineers burn a couple of days creating a superficially similar setup under HFS+, and are then free to get the basic Time Machine functionality working without being beholden to the guys doing the ZFS port. When ZFS is finally ready, it's pretty much a drop-in replacement. And if (God forbid) ZFS support never actually materializes, they can just stick with good old HFS+.
Now of course I'm not privy to any inside Apple information, so I have no idea if this theory is actually true or not. But "Time Machine should use ZFS!" is such an obvious idea, screamed by everyone from the moment it was announced, than I cannot for a second believe that Apple hadn't thought of it long ago. If the final version of Time Machine ends up using HFS+ instead of ZFS, I've got to believe that there is a good reason for doing so. There is no way Apple is stupid enough not to have thought long and hard about this.
I wouldn't really, have you seen what happens when magnesium gets wet?!
Ha! Yeah, excellent! I guess I should have written "magnesium alloy."
Although there are already magnesium alloys in some of the Apple laptops, right? Just thinking that ALL magnesium would be fantastically exotic and expensive, considering how difficult it is to work with.
Amen, brother.
Hallelujah! *falls on the floor and starts speaking in tongues*
I'm in a good mood because I just got a MacBook C2D for a great price and it's about seven times faster than my old 12-inch PowerBook G4 (don't worry, that old PB will still have a rich, productive life as a DJ tool in the hands of my colleague. And it's FOUR years old).
So this definitely means that Apple will release a new revolutionary computer tomorrow just to spite me.
Great!
Anyone know from past experience how early I should show up
And on that note, is my e-ticket to WWDC automatically there for me with my ADC Premier membership? Or do they send it to me?
Anyone know from past experience how early I should show up
And on that note, is my e-ticket to WWDC automatically there for me with my ADC Premier membership? Or do they send it to me?
I really wish that I could attend this one. But i;m not quite old enough to be a developer. Ah well.