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Ios 5

After the preview on Monday...i highly doubt that IOS 5 will be available for public release....watch out for IOS 5 Beta 1 for developers...that's about it...
 
Man, like lambs to the slaughter. The thought of all the idiots paying higher data charges to stream stuff they already own amuses me no end. Good luck getting (or holding on to) unlimited data plans now and in the future.
 
Which kind of proves that "one more thing" announcements things like new iPhones. Apple can easily talk about iOS 5, 10.7 and iCloud for three times as long as they have for the keynote. They aren't going to have enough time for the anything other than a "Oh and one more thing...shipping today" or something similar.

Last time I checked the 2nd generation Apple TV was a "one more thing".
 
because it will be a big improvement over iOS4 (otherwise they would have called it iOS4.x).

I just hope iOS 5 runs feature-complete on my first gen iPad!

It'll be such a bummer if there are features that aren't supported on the first gen hardware (apart from the obvious camera-related stuff etc.)

Looking forward to the keynote :D

RTP.
 
:eek:

Where is the Apple I have come to know and love? The one that keeps me guessing and feeding off rumors and supposed leaks until 10AM Pacific Time on announcement day?

It's gonna be a hit.

Who knows, there might be some surprises in store. ;)
 
That's awful logic. Just because a new version of software is released, it doesn't make it 'better' than the last, just because it's labelled differently (Skype being a case in point...).

That may be true (the whole Skype thing). However, a new version means new features. Plus when was the last time that :apple: updated one of their operating systems (including adding new features) and it wasn't an improvement over the last?

Plus if they decided to announce this later than they usually do they must have been trying to finish something big for this (usually they make iOS announcements in April or so).

Also, I just have a feeling...
 
Which kind of proves that "one more thing" announcements things like new iPhones. Apple can easily talk about iOS 5, 10.7 and iCloud for three times as long as they have for the keynote. They aren't going to have enough time for the anything other than a "Oh and one more thing...shipping today" or something similar.

i predict its going down like this ...

1st they talk about iOS
2nd they introduce Loin and talk about how it got some elements taken from iOS
and then oh wait, there's iCloud built right into Lion and the new iOS5 beta which is avb for devs TODAY and public release later this year (together with the new iPhone, which they wont say yet)
 
Plus when was the last time that :apple: updated one of their operating systems (including adding new features) and it wasn't an improvement over the last?

If you take the OS as a whole, you are correct. But that's not to say that everything is an improvement. Spotlight UI changes in Leopard, Exposé changes in SL, and Mission Control and the removal of Rosetta in Lion were all steps back according to some people here.
 
"Unveil"?

What does it mean that they will "unveil" Lion and iOS 5? For the latter, I'm guessing it means they'll show off some betas or at least some plans, but could it mean for Lion that it's released--or is it more of the same?
 
Man, like lambs to the slaughter. The thought of all the idiots paying higher data charges to stream stuff they already own amuses me no end. Good luck getting (or holding on to) unlimited data plans now and in the future.

You know that you won't be forced to stream it, right?...
 
I guess, they will not reveal much more than we already know from the Sneak Peak from Lion then.

:(
 
Why are people referring to next year's iPhone (post-iPhone 4S) as iPhone 5? The previously released iPhones are as follows:

iPhone 1
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS
iPhone 4

Wouldn't that imply that the iPhone AFTER 4S would be 6?? :confused:
 
Man, like lambs to the slaughter. The thought of all the idiots paying higher data charges to stream stuff they already own amuses me no end. Good luck getting (or holding on to) unlimited data plans now and in the future.

It isn't so much about streaming the whole library, IMO. If they do it right I should be able to sync a subset of my library, and stream the rest. The real point of a cloud service for mobile devices hits a couple different goals:

- Sync configuration between devices OTA. MobileMe does this today for Macs, and syncs bookmarks to devices as well.
- Provides central data storage and syncing for documents between devices to ensure that no matter which device/machine I sit in front of, I have document X that I want to edit.

How does music tie into this? Media is a bit different, although not very different from the central data storage goal. What a cloud service should enable in terms of music is being able to use cheaper devices with a bit less storage more effectively. Out of my 20GB+ library, I mainly play 4-6GB of it more regularly than the rest. But if I want to listen to anything outside of the regular stuff, then I need to make sure the whole thing is synced onto my device. If I could keep the regular stuff on my device, and then access via streaming the rest, I could literally go with a cheaper iPhone than I do today. As could some other people. Lower up-front cost for me, Apple makes up the lost revenue in services.

It is actually smart, if they implemented it right.
 
Why are people referring to next year's iPhone (post-iPhone 4S) as iPhone 5? The previously released iPhones are as follows:

iPhone 1
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS
iPhone 4

Wouldn't that imply that the iPhone AFTER 4S would be 6?? :confused:

Yeah, I don't understand why they are saying it either...Looks like Apple might call it the iPhone 4G (6th generation model) or something like that.
 
If you take the OS as a whole, you are correct. But that's not to say that everything is an improvement. Spotlight UI changes in Leopard, Exposé changes in SL, and Mission Control and the removal of Rosetta in Lion were all steps back according to some people here.

You are correct that according to some people it was a step backwards. However, I believe that on average most people would agree that a new OS (from apple) is an improvement over the last.
 
Being that there's so much news about possible hardware (phone) announced, it's obvious that Apple just wants to make it clear that this is a software event. I believe Schiller has said so much not that long ago. I can understand though, why people are chomping at the bit for a new iPhone... June is the standard month for new hardware and people want the new one. Duh.

That said...

Three benefits jump to mind for an all-software keynote:

1) It's WWDC so it needs to focus on what developers do, write software.
2) Helps push iPhone to a later date in September to help a lackluster iPod announcement.
3) Mainly, keeps the focus on the new iCloud service, Lion and iOS 5. If a phone was announced, that's all that the press would talk about. They would mention the software stuff, but it would not be a very big part of the story. Hardware always undermines software announcements.

I know I sounded a little negative earlier, but I am excited for this keynote.

Although, truth be told, I want my new iPhone! I'm still carrying around a 1st generation iPhone and to say it's long in the tooth is putting it mildly. It is soooo slow compared to new iPhones. But I refuse to upgrade to something new when AT&T would charge my data plan $10 more for service it does not offer in my podunk world. It would $20 extra for my wife and I for the same EDGE service. I am switching to Verizon when the next iteration comes out of Cupertino!
 
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This is great news, you can bet there will be "one more thing" secretly Announced here. Can't wait!!!
 
Why are people referring to next year's iPhone (post-iPhone 4S) as iPhone 5? The previously released iPhones are as follows:

iPhone 1
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS
iPhone 4

Wouldn't that imply that the iPhone AFTER 4S would be 6?? :confused:

I think it would be called iPhone LTE. That makes sense to me, but just me.
 
IIRC the 2nd generation AppleTV was a 'one more thing'

Again, proving the point that nothing important will be a one more thing. The iPhone hardware will not get a revamp at WWDC. Yes, we might see something out of left field at the very end but I doubt it will be anything beyond something along the lines of 10.7 on the Mac App Store by the end of the week.
 
Why are people referring to next year's iPhone (post-iPhone 4S) as iPhone 5? The previously released iPhones are as follows:

iPhone 1
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS
iPhone 4

Wouldn't that imply that the iPhone AFTER 4S would be 6?? :confused:

May be this will clear it up?

iphone 4WC as in Who Cares?

It will be a good device, all that should matter.
 
What does it mean that they will "unveil" Lion and iOS 5? For the latter, I'm guessing it means they'll show off some betas or at least some plans, but could it mean for Lion that it's released--or is it more of the same?

It means they will reveal the complete feature set for both, and probably the release date and price for Lion.
 
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