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Steve Jobs To Take Leave Of Absence?
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Hopefully it wont be the "One more thing...."
I won't claim to be the most avid loyal Apple fan, but definately Jobs returning along with some products that became very desirable (iPod) have helped turn Apple from a going concern into a healthy entity which is good for competition no matter which side of the fence you are on.
I won't claim to be the most avid loyal Apple fan, but definately Jobs returning along with some products that became very desirable (iPod) have helped turn Apple from a going concern into a healthy entity which is good for competition no matter which side of the fence you are on.
It does remind us how hard it is to think of a Steve replacement.
There have been a couple of CEO's in Apple's history, and none of those could come close to Steve's presence and impact, though all of those guys were probably very capable of being any CEO of some company....
But this is Apple. Apple reflects Steve's ideas, visions and charm.
It does make Apple vulnerable. If Steve calls it a day what would we like to see...?
Do we want a new "Steve"...?
I don't think that is possible.....
There have been a couple of CEO's in Apple's history, and none of those could come close to Steve's presence and impact, though all of those guys were probably very capable of being any CEO of some company....
But this is Apple. Apple reflects Steve's ideas, visions and charm.
It does make Apple vulnerable. If Steve calls it a day what would we like to see...?
Do we want a new "Steve"...?
I don't think that is possible.....
Good analogy, badly used. The whole Castro is dying thing is purely wishful thinking by the CIA especially, and US administration generally. No one knows what will happen in Cuba when Castro dies, and very few know if that is likely soon.
The CIA have tried and failed to get rid of him (Castro - not Jobs, as far as I know!) hundreds of times (and have even involved the Mafia in their plots). Now the CIA are resting their hopes on his death. All the stuff about Cuba becoming a "friend" of the USA once Castro dies is pure CIA spin. There is not a shred of evidence.
And if we are to judge the CIA by its past record, let's remember that the CIA put faith in Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan, and Saddam Hussein in the Middle East. We can all make our own assessments of their spin regarding Cuba...
Back on topic, there is also no evidence whatsoever to back up this FUD merchant's claims. If there was, he'd have quoted it. It's no more than his version of CIA spin, serving his own purposes as a financial speculator.
More than that, Apple have been/ are in the process of being burnt by the stock option fiasco. The last thing they would do at the present time is risk pissing off the financial regulators. They will go absolutely by the book. So, if there were any truth in the "rumour" SJ would have discuused it with the board, who would immediately inform their shareholders. This has not happened. We can again draw our own conclusions.
Don't go to this "analyst's" site, all he's trying to do is make money out of pre-MWSF insanity..
An enemy of an enemy looks like a friend (at the time)....
That's what the CIA presumably feels, and acts upon.
But, let's nuke the politics here....
I absolutely agree with your conclusion though.
Many will like to ride the MWSF insanity ride.
That's what the CIA presumably feels, and acts upon.
But, let's nuke the politics here....
I absolutely agree with your conclusion though.
Many will like to ride the MWSF insanity ride.
An enemy of an enemy looks like a friend (at the time)....
That's what the CIA presumably feels, and acts upon.
But, let's nuke the politics here....
I absolutely agree with your conclusion though.
Many will like to ride the MWSF insanity ride.
Sorry if there was too much politics in that for this forum, I was just trying to explain my point, which was that people say what they want if it serves their interests. There is not necessarily any wisdom in what they say...
(Waiting for someone to come back that they could say the same about me...
)As for MWSF, I try to keep my insanity for my therapist, and am trying to keep my expectations low. OSX 10.4.9, anyone?
You know, I love Jobs and all, but Apple is big enough to survive even if and when he does leave/step down/etc. I think that he has been a huge help in rescuing Apple from it's darkest days under guys like Gil Amelio, but I think he has also set Apple as a whole in the right direction. I think we all have to acknowledge that Jobs isn't going to be around forever, whether that means he might be gone in a week, a month, a year or 10 years. There seems to be this whole idea that Apple would completely fall apart with Jobs, and I don't buy it. I could have bought it possibly in the 90's, when Apple was spinning its wheels and couldn't seem to get anything moving forward, but I think that a great team has been put in charge of Apple, and there's a lot of talent throughout the company.
I think it would be unfortunate if he did have to step down specifically because of this options thing, because that would be a very sour ending on an otherwise amazing story.
I think that as Apple fans we take for granted having a CEO like Jobs; there really aren't any other CEOs out there in any other industry that really compare to him. Hell, within the computer industry, Steve Ballmer and Michael Dell are the only other people I can really even name off the top of my head.... and I guess Larry Ellison (who is perhaps the closest thing any other company has to a personality CEO).
I think it would be unfortunate if he did have to step down specifically because of this options thing, because that would be a very sour ending on an otherwise amazing story.
I think that as Apple fans we take for granted having a CEO like Jobs; there really aren't any other CEOs out there in any other industry that really compare to him. Hell, within the computer industry, Steve Ballmer and Michael Dell are the only other people I can really even name off the top of my head.... and I guess Larry Ellison (who is perhaps the closest thing any other company has to a personality CEO).
Ellison? If you consider being a sociopath a personality!
Wasn't commenting so much on his particular quality of personality as much as that he at least has a distinct and publically recognizable personality.
No offence to anyone, but I'd be glad to see steve go. And by that I don't mean die.
I just think he's a bit.. I don't know, there is just something about him I really dislike.
I just think he's a bit.. I don't know, there is just something about him I really dislike.
Blasphemy! The RDF Zelots will hunt you down and eat you for supper!
Actually, I can see how his personality might clash with people at times...
Blasphemy! The RDF Zelots will hunt you down and eat you for supper!
Actually, I can see how his personality might clash with people at times...
Generally speaking, the best corporate leaders aren't necessarily the people who are just "best buddies" with their employees all the time. People like Jobs will sometimes piss people off, because they will just straight up criticize someone's work, say something is terrible, etc........ but Jobs in particular is able to get away with this to large degree because a lot of people have come to understand that he is the way he is because of the perfection he demands.
Some employees can deal with it, and others can't, but the end result is something that pretty much everyone can see.
Gates has some similar personality traits, but he doesn't necessarily get the same results, because people fundamentally understand that what he does want is generally imitation (i.e. the famous Gates criticism of the Windows team early on, telling them that something they did wasn't good because it wasn't enough like how the Mac did it).
Ooooo maybe they can slip the Newton 3000 into the lineup while he's gone and he'll never know!
I know where you are coming from. I hate the guy too; however you can't deny what he has accomplished since his return. Without him Apple computers would probably be mainly featured in computer museums right now and MS would be on Windows 2000 SP12.
I wish that perfection would trickle down to QC. Really.
I know where you are coming from. I hate the guy too; however you can't deny what he has accomplished since his return. Without him Apple computers would probably be mainly featured in computer museums right now and MS would be on Windows 2000 SP12.
I wish that perfection would trickle down to QC. Really.
Ooooo maybe they can slip the Newton 3000 into the lineup while he's gone and he'll never know!
I'm still waiting on the HAL 9000 model to come out...I guess I just dated myself with that one didn't I?
...Open the pod bay doors, HAL... I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that...
I'm still waiting on the HAL 9000 model to come out...I guess I just dated myself with that one didn't I?
...Open the pod bay doors, HAL... I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that...
Open the iPod bay doors Steve....I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that without a firmware update.
Open the iPod bay doors Steve....I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that without a firmware update.
aaahahaha! I think I may have just sprayed peanut butter filled explosive pretzel debri on my keyboard! Kubrick's dialogue pales in comparison to that version. In fact that's sig worthy material.
That is stretching it, most of the decisions and the general direction for Apple were made in the Gill Amelio days (also the x386 switch). Jobs has put some projects 'on hold' and uses it veto when he needs to, he's to much of an icon these days and thats not a really healthy situation for Apple. I believe the rumor and maybe this is a good time to do it, a court case is a good excuse to take a leave of absence from Apple without upsetting the market to much.
Mac OS X, iMac, iPod are all Steve's.
And those are the reasons why Apple is what is is now. Sure, Apple have considered a CPU switch before, but the actual switch itself was done by... Steve.
But I do agree that he is very iconic, and thus the brand Apple too dependant. The day Steve announces his retirement, shares would be back to values of the mid-nineties, I'm afarid.
So, let's enjoy his stay while it lasts!
And those are the reasons why Apple is what is is now. Sure, Apple have considered a CPU switch before, but the actual switch itself was done by... Steve.
But I do agree that he is very iconic, and thus the brand Apple too dependant. The day Steve announces his retirement, shares would be back to values of the mid-nineties, I'm afarid.
So, let's enjoy his stay while it lasts!
But the best corporate leaders also move past their own biases when it comes to business. Steve's biases have held Apple back in some areas.
Such as?
I would venture to say that he has gotten a lot better about that (the fact that Apple is even doing Boot Camp and making it a core feature of OS X 10.5 is pretty big).