Well, that's just great, way to confuse the consumer even more. Two similar looking products both being sold at the same store. Nice. Haha
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Steve Jobs Tried Unsuccessfully to Defuse Patent Dispute with Samsung in 2010
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Well, that's just great, way to confuse the consumer even more. Two similar looking products both being sold at the same store. Nice. Haha
Not a ruling. An opinion presented in conjunction with a ruling on a preliminary injunction. Actual court case to follow.
Non-infringing of the photo-related patent.
?? As far as I have read, we have had two significant rulings out of 11 cases. Both on preliminary injunctions. Apple's request for preliminary injunctions was granted in both cases. The Dutch injunction easily worked around by Samsung.
But seriously, are you actually saying "Outside of the German decision, Samsung mostly won?" Two decisons, and you eliminate the one that goes against your claims. That's some truthiness.
And then we have Australia, where Samsung has voluntarily delayed launch of the Tab. Doesn't sound like confidence in their position.
Come on this is KnightWRX we're talking about. You should know by now that all he does is say things without any shred of evidence and then pass it along as fact.
He also complains about rumors on the macrumors site, which is also bizarre behavior.
As long as you acknowledge the difference between copying ideas legally and stealing IP. Jobs (and Picasso) are obviously not referring to IP theft, but on the necessity of building on the ideas that came before to push innovation. You don't want to continually reinvent the wheel.
Read wiki before you shouted.
Apple's proprietary dock connector came out 2001. PDMI, which is touted as open standard alternative to Apple's dock connector and lead by Microsoft, came out 2010, with a remarkably similarity to Apple's dock connector.
Ask yourself, how many times you see this PDMI connector in your life? Did you see any prior art of that before 2001?
Apple's proprietary dock connector came out 2001. PDMI, which is touted as open standard alternative to Apple's dock connector and lead by Microsoft, came out 2010, with a remarkably similarity to Apple's dock connector.
Ask yourself, how many times you see this PDMI connector in your life? Did you see any prior art of that before 2001?
I believe that copying is a valid legit business, many asian manufacturers became big by imitation.
BUT you can still do it, and minimize probability of conflict.
If I were Samsung, to avoid a possible conflict with Apple (and lose their business), maybe keep the form factor and the PDMI cable but why not AT LEAST TRY to say change the box, hire a someone to redesign a few icons and re-arrange them in their ads.
Apple was an $8B customer and maybe set to double or triple, why not just change some superficial things?
It seems like they didn't even try or put some effort make it look different (or they did try to make it look the same).
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BUT you can still do it, and minimize probability of conflict.
If I were Samsung, to avoid a possible conflict with Apple (and lose their business), maybe keep the form factor and the PDMI cable but why not AT LEAST TRY to say change the box, hire a someone to redesign a few icons and re-arrange them in their ads.
Apple was an $8B customer and maybe set to double or triple, why not just change some superficial things?
It seems like they didn't even try or put some effort make it look different (or they did try to make it look the same).
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Not this again
Apple's lawsuits against Samsung go back as far as April 2011, 4 months before Steve Jobs resigned and Tim Cook took over. I wish people would stop blaming Tim Cook for everything....He's only been in charged a little more than a month.
Not this again
Apple's lawsuits against Samsung go back as far as April 2011, 4 months before Steve Jobs resigned and Tim Cook took over. I wish people would stop blaming Tim Cook for everything....He's only been in charged a little more than a month.
You do know he was acting CEO long before Steve resigned, right?
I'm guessing that you have issues with Florian's translation of the court ruling. Show me another translation that doesn't state what I posted and I'll be happy to retract. Condemning Florian's translation seems quite desperate on your part.
Huh? You must have been watching different ads then I. Those ads we're distortions of fact and mean spirited. Eventually pulled because most people aren't idiots.
Tony
I remember when Samsung launched their Vibrant phone on T-Mobile and thinking, "Is that an iPhone?". Apple taking action over Samsung's copycatiness isn't a surprise. Nobody likes a copycat.
Samsung should realize that they can only copy Apple, and abandon the Android platform. MSFT is waiting to embrace you Sammy with warm, wonderful, innovative WP7!
Exactly, especially as the box has Samsung Galaxy Tab in big letters on the front of the box.
Or eventually pulled after a four year run as one of the most successful ad campaigns in history. But I'm sure your explanation is just as likely.
If eventually is after four years from 2006 to 2010, then I am in complete agreement with you.
Except for whatever else you wrote.
trying to fit a rectangular object in a rectangular box... hmm.. so you have problem with packaging now?
there must be 200 million ways to achieve that. yes?
what is is this "overall presentation"? can you be specific?
The defusion probably went like a little like this:
"In 2003, after I unveiled a prototype Linux desktop called Project Looking Glass*, Steve called my office to let me know the graphical effects were “stepping all over Apple’s IP.” (IP = Intellectual Property = patents, trademarks and copyrights.) If we moved forward to commercialize it, “I’ll just sue you.”"
http://jonathanischwartz.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/good-artists-copy-great-artists-steal/
"In 2003, after I unveiled a prototype Linux desktop called Project Looking Glass*, Steve called my office to let me know the graphical effects were “stepping all over Apple’s IP.” (IP = Intellectual Property = patents, trademarks and copyrights.) If we moved forward to commercialize it, “I’ll just sue you.”"
http://jonathanischwartz.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/good-artists-copy-great-artists-steal/
The ads were parody. They poked fun at BOTH Mac and PC stereotypes and of course showcased the PCs flaws as compared to a Mac.
Just as much of the world's advertising does. There has to be truth in an ad, but reality can be a sliding scale. Those ads had nothing that was false said, although in the jest of parody did exaggerate the PC problems.
I believe these ads were pulled because Windows did grow and catch up a lot to Mac OS and Windows 98 and XP are a far different system than Windows 7 in terms fo virus, crashes, etc.
If you look at the ads, many (at least a simple majority) were showcasing features of software that Macs came with that a PC did not (come with as standard). No different than GM advertising OnStar in their car versus Ford.
The bottom line - the ads worked. They were memorable. They reinforced the notion of PCs being unreliable and prone to virus. They reinforced the idea Macs were easy to use and PCs were not. All concepts that prior to the first Mac vs PC ad most people held.
From what I have read the ads were stopped because the actors became famous in their own right and the ads were in a way too successful and thus lost some of their power.
Just as much of the world's advertising does. There has to be truth in an ad, but reality can be a sliding scale. Those ads had nothing that was false said, although in the jest of parody did exaggerate the PC problems.
I believe these ads were pulled because Windows did grow and catch up a lot to Mac OS and Windows 98 and XP are a far different system than Windows 7 in terms fo virus, crashes, etc.
If you look at the ads, many (at least a simple majority) were showcasing features of software that Macs came with that a PC did not (come with as standard). No different than GM advertising OnStar in their car versus Ford.
The bottom line - the ads worked. They were memorable. They reinforced the notion of PCs being unreliable and prone to virus. They reinforced the idea Macs were easy to use and PCs were not. All concepts that prior to the first Mac vs PC ad most people held.
From what I have read the ads were stopped because the actors became famous in their own right and the ads were in a way too successful and thus lost some of their power.
Yes, but you didn't start hearing about Apple's "new regime" until Jobs officially stepped down in late August.
samsung and apple
I have always liked Samsung, and I do not care who wins....
But Samsung does kind of look like the manufacturing end for a Chinese fake Apple store selling fake Apple stuff.
It is a shame because Samsung makes good stuff on their own without copying. All companies copy to some extent, but some of Samsung's products almost remind me of a fake Rolex watch that my dad bought me in Korea years ago....
I have always liked Samsung, and I do not care who wins....
But Samsung does kind of look like the manufacturing end for a Chinese fake Apple store selling fake Apple stuff.
It is a shame because Samsung makes good stuff on their own without copying. All companies copy to some extent, but some of Samsung's products almost remind me of a fake Rolex watch that my dad bought me in Korea years ago....
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I'm not, I stated the same in my post. I'm condemning Florian as a whole. He's anti-OSS and has been very vocal about Android's "IP problems" from the start. He's also been proven wrong at so many turns as to put into question his credibility.
Basically, get another source. The Dusseldorf decision is what it is, we all know it. But to claim it holds any significance above the Dutch decision is ludicrous. Seeing how the Dutch decision is broader in scope though puts Apple in the losing side of all these litigations for now, even though they are 1 to 1 in the case of the Community Design registration.
AFAIK, Apple has never complained about the connector or power block, so not sure why they're being made into a big discussion point.
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As for the vaguely similar microphone image comparison, that shape is commonly used to indicate voice input.
For example, here are the voice input icons on the new iOS 5 keyboard, and an old Android keyboard. (Apple even put theirs in the same location.)
So did Apple copy others with this? Or was it just a coincidental design choice that made sense, as do some of Samsung's design choices?
Btw, there's a new UI problem coming up, as many young people of today have never seen such microphones. Heck, most have never seen an old Bell handset such as most phones use for a "Call" icon. And think of the "Save" icons that still use a floppy disk image.
Apple already got rid of the CD image on iTunes and changed to a more generic musical note. I wonder what else will have to change to be meaningful to people in the future?
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As for the vaguely similar microphone image comparison, that shape is commonly used to indicate voice input.
For example, here are the voice input icons on the new iOS 5 keyboard, and an old Android keyboard. (Apple even put theirs in the same location.)
So did Apple copy others with this? Or was it just a coincidental design choice that made sense, as do some of Samsung's design choices?
Btw, there's a new UI problem coming up, as many young people of today have never seen such microphones. Heck, most have never seen an old Bell handset such as most phones use for a "Call" icon. And think of the "Save" icons that still use a floppy disk image.
Apple already got rid of the CD image on iTunes and changed to a more generic musical note. I wonder what else will have to change to be meaningful to people in the future?
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You are NOT samsung. So, you can stop worrying about what they SHOULD do. Why do all people here act as if they will decide what Samsung has to do with their business? For all it matters, nobody can tell (still today) what's the total worth of Samsung. No need to waste your time thinking what they should do.