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Steve Jobs Tried Unsuccessfully to Defuse Patent Dispute with Samsung in 2010
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Samsung is stupid! They really copied Apple's usb connector! LOL WOW, Apple has every right to sue the hell out of them! Good to know I have nothing Samsung in my home.
Nope. Wide variety of trademark, trade dress, design patent, and utility patent claims.
Good Samsung, I would have slammed the door in his face if I was in your position! In the case in Australia, the Apple lawyers have stated that they are scared of the Galaxy tab taking customers away from the Apple eco system hence the law suite!
So basically Apple are scared of loosing customers to the competition away from it's eco system, so it is suing the competition
Sad, very sad...
http://9to5mac.com/2011/09/29/apple-vs-samsung-is-about-ecosystems-not-tablets-or-patents/
So yes, Apple is basically attacking the entire Android eco system by taking Samsung to court, which if that's the case, when the Kindle Fire launches it is in DIRECT competition with Apple according to Apples lawyers statements..
Good luck Apple... shame you do't like or believe in consumer choice..
So basically Apple are scared of loosing customers to the competition away from it's eco system, so it is suing the competition
Sad, very sad...
http://9to5mac.com/2011/09/29/apple-vs-samsung-is-about-ecosystems-not-tablets-or-patents/
So yes, Apple is basically attacking the entire Android eco system by taking Samsung to court, which if that's the case, when the Kindle Fire launches it is in DIRECT competition with Apple according to Apples lawyers statements..
Good luck Apple... shame you do't like or believe in consumer choice..
I'm curious, just what do you think the full touch screen for the P800, P900, P910 were used for if not the PRIMARY phone interface and control method?
The P800 did have a full touchscreen (I downloaded the user manual), after the keypad was flipped out of the way, and a jog dial was used on the side for scrolling, plus there was a stylus required to use the handwriting recognition (which iPhone doesn't natively support). There are also quite a few button/switches on the side.
I'll give you that is is a touchscreen, but functionally quite primitive next to the iPhone. Whether the touchscreen was the primary interface or no would probably depend upon the task. For the iPhone, the touch surface is definitely the primary interface.
Addendum: I'm not sure of this from reading the user guide, but I suspect that the screen requires the stylus from use, so that it isn't really the same as current touchscreens.
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Right, the keyboard could be removed entirely, you did not need to use use, you did not need to use the 5 way scroll wheel as you could use the touch screen for all input including the on screen keyboards. On the side you had a camera shutter key and a short cut key, on the other side a 5 way jog dial and the power button.
You could control the phone with the touch screen entirely if you wanted. The keypad you could attach actually just pushed down onto the screen. Electronic keypads came in later versions like the P900. The touch screen was the primary interface if you chose. You had a choice.
The stylus was used as the screen was a resistive screen, I don't think capacitive screens were cheap enough in 2002 to put in a phone. I miss my P990, that was an awesome phone, if big.
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Re: Apple's Australian court testimony.
Without judging who's correct, what struck me the most was how Apple's predictions of potential damages, if the Tab is allowed to sell, are pretty much the polar opposite of some oft-repeated forum concepts:
Forum: Tab sales will be slow and won't affect the iPad.
Apple: "This is going to be launched on the market with the velocity of a fire hose and [the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is] going to just come in and take away iPad 2 sales ..."
Forum: Tab sales will only take away from other Android sales.
Apple: The Galaxy Tab will only get market share by taking share away from Apple. Other Android competitors from brands such as Motorola and Acer are irrelevant.
Forum: Everyone really wants iOS and won't stay with Android.
Apple: Every Galaxy Tab sold will cost us future app sales as the users will become "Android people".
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One thing for sure: Apple has done more to bring attention to Samsung's products than any ad campaign could.
It's still stunning to me that Apple has not learned the lesson from when it sued Jobs and NeXT. All that happened was that Apple showed the world how afraid it was of NeXT and its potential products, while NeXT got free publicity.
Without judging who's correct, what struck me the most was how Apple's predictions of potential damages, if the Tab is allowed to sell, are pretty much the polar opposite of some oft-repeated forum concepts:
Forum: Tab sales will be slow and won't affect the iPad.
Apple: "This is going to be launched on the market with the velocity of a fire hose and [the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is] going to just come in and take away iPad 2 sales ..."
Forum: Tab sales will only take away from other Android sales.
Apple: The Galaxy Tab will only get market share by taking share away from Apple. Other Android competitors from brands such as Motorola and Acer are irrelevant.
Forum: Everyone really wants iOS and won't stay with Android.
Apple: Every Galaxy Tab sold will cost us future app sales as the users will become "Android people".
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One thing for sure: Apple has done more to bring attention to Samsung's products than any ad campaign could.
It's still stunning to me that Apple has not learned the lesson from when it sued Jobs and NeXT. All that happened was that Apple showed the world how afraid it was of NeXT and its potential products, while NeXT got free publicity.
Love this Img
The store display was a Euronics store made by them, it had absolutely nothing to do with Samsung.
The power adapters look totally different in the UK, they do not resemble each other at all. In fact I would state the charger on show is not the one from the iPad 2 or the Galaxy 10.1 tablet as the UK models have adapters you connect for the country's power sockets.
The boxes have similar artwork on the front, on the back they are totally different.
The picture of the Galaxy tablet in the box is also false as when you ope a brand new one, the screen has a sticky cover on it with lots of logos highlighting it's features, it does NOT great you with a blank screen like the iPad.
The cable I shall give you, that is a blatant rip off. And a propriety format too!!
The microphones look like, erm, microphones, they don't look like the same microphones or interface. To state they do is to stretch the truth.
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Apple does appear to have some of the daftest and strangest business models ever. Sue the competition and block their product sales because they are, competition!!!! We were here first, NO ONE else is allowed to follow?
It's the most stupid reasons I have heard for suing someone. The world doesn't work the way Apple wants it to. But as I said, it Apple is worried about loosing content sales, it won't be long before Amazon destroy their party on that one!
So they only copy in some countries?
So they only copied half the box? (And the way the box opens, and the relative shape, and the coloration, and the way stuff is packed inside, and...)
Umm. So?
And Samsung couldn't have made their voice recorder look like very other voice recorder app that had come before - i.e. without a microphone picture?
As much as I'm tilted toward's the
side in this spat, I have a Samsung LCD TV and I don't regret that fact one bit.I stopped reading your comment at the highlighted section. Yay Apple has trademarked the cardboard box!!!
Here is the HTC Touch WinMo voice control from 2007 before the iPhone ever went on sale:
And this is a voice recorder for the 2007 HTC Wing:
Apple added their voice recorder app with a vintage microphone image in 2009.
All these people screaming that Apple is being anti-competitive just think a little bit rather than spouting knee-jerk reactions.
How does Samsung copying Apple encourage competition? How does it provide innovation to the consumer?
Samsung, being the manufacturer of Apple products is in a prime position to copy their stuff (they can even use the same factory tools and assembly lines). They have the technological inside knowledge at an early stage so as to compete on a time scale also.
So how is it competitive and benefitting the consumer to let a company get away with blatantly copying design and technology?
It costs Apple to engineer and design their products. Then a competitor who manufactures for Apple rips off many elements of this hard work in order to cash in on a carefully built up reputation and image. How can anyone hold it against Apple that they are not willing to just allow that?
How does Samsung copying Apple encourage competition? How does it provide innovation to the consumer?
Samsung, being the manufacturer of Apple products is in a prime position to copy their stuff (they can even use the same factory tools and assembly lines). They have the technological inside knowledge at an early stage so as to compete on a time scale also.
So how is it competitive and benefitting the consumer to let a company get away with blatantly copying design and technology?
It costs Apple to engineer and design their products. Then a competitor who manufactures for Apple rips off many elements of this hard work in order to cash in on a carefully built up reputation and image. How can anyone hold it against Apple that they are not willing to just allow that?
"Windows is basically a rip-off of the Mac" - Steve Jobs in his Stanford speech
"The problem with Microsoft is they have no taste."
Kind and credible indeed.
probably more of a safety-measure. samsung primarily has hw-patents. msft doesnt produce much hardware. one could say that cross-licensing is analogous to a hand-shake, where licensing is a butt-****. with the hand-shake you have to worry less about getting it in your own ass eventually.
I agree.
Is so funny this forums sometimes
I didn't know Apple patented how they package their hardware. I'm surprised that many people here seem to victimise Samsung and not HTC which does have boxes of their phones that can look a bit Apple-esque but still slightly distinctive regardless.
About that microphone, come on.
About that wall of apps, that wall is in an Italian shop that does sell iPhones and the wall graphic is part of their store, not Samsung.
That may well be because Microsoft dumped a big load of cash into apple to keep it from going bankrupt...just a thought...(lick on lollypop)...just a thought