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The difference is that unlike many CEOs who come in, wreck a great company (e.g. HP), or ask for bailouts when times get tough (e.g. GM or the banks), Steve Jobs took a company that was dying and transformed it into the most valuable company in the world in 14 years. He not only led Apple, he was Apple, and was a big reason why the company is so influential and well-admired.

People got the sense that he was the real deal. He didn't need his name on a hospital wing or university arena. His actions spoke for him.


He was the face of apple, but you have to give credit to the people under him as well. You can't be a good leader without people helping you along the way.

Apple crazies are that way because it is different, it is anti microsoft.

The truth is to be honest, apple really isn't any more different then microsoft when it comes to business practices.

Steve was a cult hero for people, just like many before him in other areas of life.
 
Where is walt?

Steve Jobs is to apple what Walt was to Disney. They groomed the best and raised them like kin in ideals and duplicated themselves into cherished individuals on their closely valued staff. Walt Disney has passed away in the sixties and has commanded and cutivated a culture with their consumers which is very emotive. Disney has grown in value and marketshare long after walt has passed because of his vision. Apple will grow in value and marketshare just as disney did because Job's vision is ingrained into the culture of the company and its consumers. the most creative people have inspired creative people, from the top down. Peole knocking tim forget that he is a VERY INTEGRAL reason as to why apple has a stranglehold on supplies and vendors which has led to the fear and respect of their purchasing power and suggestions. We cant honor Job's intelligence and insult him in the same breath by saying he is a genius for assembling the team he has assembled, yet he has allegedly left the company he loved so much in the hands of some ballmeriffic goon. Apple will be more than fine with Tim and as much as we'll miss Steve, Greater is yet to come.... because he has built a solid foundation indeed.
 
When Steve became seriously ill there was a lot of talk of making Jonathan Ive CEO - he's certainly quietly charismatic and can claim to have created the look and feel of the Second Coming of Steve.

BUT, while Steve was a visionary and a businessman, Ive is a visionary and a great product designer. It would have been insane to remove him from frontline design work - that's his thing.

Tim Cook knows Apple through and through and will no doubt increase the profile of late-era Apple legends like Ive and bring more innovators into public view.
 
The true test will be not to see where Apple takes existing products like iPhone, iPad, MacBooks, etc.

They will undoubtably continue making them better. Its an easy thing to do: make them thinner, lighter, faster. The engineering is tough, but its easy to judge if the next generation is better than the last. Any half competent CEO or leadership team can improve on existing things.

The TRUE test will be to see how Apple handles NEW product categories. Will they just stick with what they have or will they create entirely new products (the way the iPad created the modern tablet market or the iPhone made smartphones mainstream).

And once they do come out with something, like say an Apple Television set or something else we havent even thought of, will that innovation be "Apple like" in being the best in its class and desired (i.e. it was a good choice to enter that market and they read the desires of people correctly) or will it flop (i.e. they lost their pulse on what people want).

If this test goes well, Apple will be fine for a long time to come. If they start coming out with some commercial failures, then Apple will sink to mediocrity over time and become just another vendor for stuff.

That'd be too bad. I love Apple stuff as it is now, but nothing can last forever, not even their market dominance (high end market, of course not necessarily mainstream). Maybe 10 years from now we'll all be fanboys of some company that hasn't yet been founded selling products we can't live without that haven't yet been invented. Thats just life.

Don't forget...Steve had some flops as well. I think it will take some time for gain perspective on Cook and others. I would say in 10 years we should all be able to look and see how well Steve prepared the company for this transition. But again, he left this time on his own terms with Apple in the best position possible! What a legacy!
 
I think we didn't get the iPhone 5 this week because Steve wanted to make sure the company had something big to launch after his death - a sign that the company could create a 'wow' product in the post-Jobs era.

Must have been hard for the folks who did the presentation on Tuesday knowing that Steve was so close to the end.

Thanks Steve for the beautiful products, the beautiful software, the beautiful Apple family, and for saving me from the agony of Microsoft.

You will be missed.
 
I dont want to **** on anyone's parade, but even if Jobs had a multi-year plan already drawn up, such plans may very well prove to hold very little value in the rapidly changing environment that technology is. One can use the work of Lucy Suchmann to make this point clearer. In one of her brilliant pieces of work she speaks of plans in the context of situated action, using the metaphor of a canoer in action.


in planning to run a series of rapids in a canoe, one is very likely to sit for a while above the falls and plan one's decent. The plan might go something like "I'll get as far over to the left as possible, try to make it between those two large rocks, then backferry hard to the right to make it around that next bunch." A great deal of deliberation, discussion, simulation, and reconstruction may go into such a plan. But, however detailed, the plan stops short of the actual business of getting your canoe through the falls. When it really comes down to the details of responding to currents and handling a canoe, you effectively abandon the plan and fall back on whatever embodied skills are available to you.​

Jobs was a brilliant canoer. In fact, while many think of him as the great visionaire it was not so much his vision* that made his brilliance, but his ability to draw upon the embodied skills that was available to him - what BillG once summarized in terms of taste. Much like a great canoer, Jobs had wicked gut-feeling. Like few others he was able to navigate the rapids of technology, effectively finding his way through the rapids. This was his forte, this was what made Apple as we now know it.

That said, i am sure that there are many brilliant people working at Apple. However, having brilliant employees is hardly enough. Nor is the right "enterprise DNA". To highlight the importance of Jobs is not so much to downgrade the brilliance of others. Its merely a recognition of his (somewhat) unique touch.

Will Apple live on? Surely. But without Jobs there to navigate the rapids, well... it might just get rough. It may perhaps not happen tomorrow, perhaps not even for years to come, but surely he was "more than a man".

This is not to mean that others could not take his place. Rather, my concerns are with "Jobs-like people" being able to reach a position where they can have enough influence. Jobs in many ways started an era, and as such he was self-written as a leader in many ways. Such fortune is however exception rather than norm, and, with Jobs gone, it may take long until someone is able to fill his shoes.... or rather, allowed to even try. This, the latter, if anything, will be the downfall of Apple.

The day Apple becomes "just another corporation" they have lost their soul. And unfortunately, i think that day will come sooner than most here would expect. Its simply far to easy to just "run the show", ignoring that the show of today may be obsolete tomorrow. And once you go down that path, change usually doesnt happen until its way too late.

* guess i might expand on this before the downvoters join in. Vision, in a sense, is easy. In fact, most visions implemented today are ones that were made decades ago. Imagining what something could be is quite easy. Rather, Jobs skill was in marketing. Not marking as "making a bs-product look good", but rather "taking the available - the currently possible - and making something great out of it, at a point in time where it makes sense doing so".

(ironically as i was just publishing this Wozniak came on TV speaking of Jobs marketing skills...)
 
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In 3-4 years Johnny Ive will be CEO, Tim Cook is a safe pair of hands in the interim. The best tribute to Steve Jobs is to celebrate the team he hand picked to succeed him. See this article in the UK press on Ive

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/mosl...gn-genius.html
 
In 3-4 years Johnny Ive will be CEO, Tim Cook is a safe pair of hands in the interim. The best tribute to Steve Jobs is to celebrate the team he hand picked to succeed him. See this article in the UK press on Ive

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/mosl...gn-genius.html

It's "Jony Ive", and while he's brilliant at adapting other peoples' design ideas to Apple products - that does not mean that he'd make a good CEO.
 
People deal with death differently. Some would like to remain silent, some would prefer to discuss the things that Jobs left to the world. Neither is wrong, neither need be disrespectful.

And some people like to whore out their own websites just to get the most page views.
 
I'm wondering what the next keynote will look and feel like. It will be an emotional and strange moment. The first post-Steve keynote ever to take place. Will it be business-as-usual with excited people and incredible products?

We will see in January 2012.
 
Apple will do fine, but the real tests are going to come when _____ (insert product here, new or old)_____ needs a set of eyes that can take the product from being a great idea but a bit rough around the edges, to being a flawless user experience. It sounds like Steve was definitely that guy who could spot the slightest of flaws, and you can't just replace that intuition. For better or worse, he believed he knew what the user wanted and thats what he put out there.....

Think about how exceptional the user experience is on nearly every apple product. Hell I used to hate apple 5 years ago until I finally got past my pointless principles about how expensive the products were and tried out an iPod touch.....I couldn't believe how nice the user experience was. Here I am between my wife and I, 2 macbook pros, 2 iphones, iPad 2 and a 27" cinema display later.
 
Steve Jobs, Captain and Visionary to the End...

I am not surprised that Steve was working hard to continue to make Apple a powerhouse in all areas of technology up until the end. Although he is gone, I am very happy to hear that the road map that he has left will be carried out by those who worked to bring all of his visions to reality thus far.

Steve Jobs: pioneer, trailblazer, visionary to the end. He put the finishing touches on his dream when he placed Tim Cook at the helm. He knew that with the team currently in place, his vision will carry on. This is his "one more thing" to us.

The next few years we will continue to feel his presence and as Martha Stewart always says, "that's a good thing".
 
Apple has always been Asian-influenced. And that's why many Asians including the Japanese who shun American products love Apple.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2011/10/06/the-zen-of-steve-jobs/?mod=google_news_blog

The Zen of Steve Jobs

Moments after his passing was announced, the world had already begun to mourn Steve Jobs — a man who changed the world as often as some people change their hairstyles.

He’s being celebrated as an innovator, a visionary and a revolutionary. Yet in his life, critics labeled him a self-involved egotist, a shameless huckster, a ruthless manipulator. His closest friends and allies, even Jobs himself, might agree that both sets of labels were accurate — the external manifestations of an idiosyncratic worldview that has defied interpretation by scores of would-be analysts, in part because at its heart was an Asian philosophy that embraces nuance, contradiction and paradox.

I’ve written before about how the study of Zen Buddhism shaped Jobs’s design sensibility and business philosophy. Jobs was a passionate advocate of what Buddhists call “the beginner’s mind” — an outlook free of the learned constraints that lead to preconceived solutions to problems. He preached and practiced the need for radical simplicity and rigorous focus, both of which are core Buddhist values. And he was a deep believer in the validity of Japanese traditional aesthetics, whose precepts are deeply intertwined with the ideas and practice of Zen.

Under Jobs, the expression of these aesthetic principles can be found in every one of Apple’s products — concepts like miyabi, which translates as “high refinement” or the polishing away of roughness and crudeness; shibui, or “unobtrusive beauty,” a loveliness that balances streamlined form with complex detail; iki, or “audacious style”; and yugen, or “enigmatic quality.”

Most of all, however, Jobs demanded from his people an appreciation of the critical importance of ma, which loosely translates as emptiness, space or void. Ma states that a thing is defined not just by what it is, but what it is not — that a sculpture is beautiful because of both the rock taken away and the rock left behind, and a ring is useful because of both the hollow at its center and the metal strip that surrounds it.

He frequently expressed that he was as proud of the things that Apple didn’t do as he was of the things it did. And though he’s being eulogized today for the things he created, during his career he was constantly under fire for the things he’d decreed had come to the end of their useful lives: The floppy drive, absent from Apple’s company-reviving iMac. The optical drive, eliminated from the laptop-redefining Macbook Air. The physical keyboard, conspicuously excluded from the game-changing, touch-only iPhone.

In every case, he was lambasted by critics and users alike, only to have his intuitive and seemingly arbitrary decisions proven entirely correct: Today, none of these things are missed by the millions who use and love Apple products, and their absence has opened the door to fresh technologies and new ways of using them.


That was the essence of Jobs’s unique genius — understanding that absence defines presence; that the only path to the great new things of the future was the merciless elimination of the good old things of the past.

There’s a famous koan, attributed to the Chinese master Linje, which goes: “If you meet the Buddha in the road, kill him.” The koan wasn’t an exhortation to murder, but a metaphorical admonishment not to be bound up in dogma, in conventions, in standards. You cannot pursue the Buddha-becoming if you’re slavishly attached to the Buddha-that-is. You cannot grow if you’re unwilling to let go.

In Jobs’s most revelatory and intimate public statement, the commencement address he gave at Stanford in 2005, he restated Linje’s koan in inimitably Jobsian fashion: “Death,” he said, “is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away.”

And that’s why Jobs would likely have preferred that those who admired his work not mourn his death, but instead celebrate the opportunity that his passing provides for others to step forward and change the world themselves.

“Why get caught up in the death of a single man?” Jobs might say. There are better ways to use your time and energy. Invent. Imagine. Heal. Explore. Create. Inspire. Push the human race forward.

What are you waiting for?
 
Over the past 5 years, Jony Ive has been the most important person at Apple in terms of product design. Tim Cook, while obviously not as charismatic as Steve, will do more than fine as CEO. Put those 2 together and Apple is firmly on the same road they were on before and still going strong.

Don't worry. :)
 
Steve Jobs is to apple what Walt was to Disney. They groomed the best and raised them like kin in ideals and duplicated themselves into cherished individuals on their closely valued staff. Walt Disney has passed away in the sixties and has commanded and cutivated a culture with their consumers which is very emotive. Disney has grown in value and marketshare long after walt has passed because of his vision. Apple will grow in value and marketshare just as disney did because Job's vision is ingrained into the culture of the company and its consumers. the most creative people have inspired creative people, from the top down. Peole knocking tim forget that he is a VERY INTEGRAL reason as to why apple has a stranglehold on supplies and vendors which has led to the fear and respect of their purchasing power and suggestions. We cant honor Job's intelligence and insult him in the same breath by saying he is a genius for assembling the team he has assembled, yet he has allegedly left the company he loved so much in the hands of some ballmeriffic goon. Apple will be more than fine with Tim and as much as we'll miss Steve, Greater is yet to come.... because he has built a solid foundation indeed.

You need to read up on the history of Disney. If you knew enough you wouldn't use Disney as an example. After Walt died Disney struggled for years. That's not something that Apple can afford to do.
 
They need to update Siri with an option to pick Steve's voice. Then he could live on in his iPhones.
 
I dont want to **** on anyone's parade, but even if Jobs had a multi-year plan already drawn up, such plans may very well prove to hold very little value in the rapidly changing environment that technology is. One can use the work of Lucy Suchmann to make this point clearer. In one of her brilliant pieces of work she speaks of plans in the context of situated action, using the metaphor of a canoer in action.


in planning to run a series of rapids in a canoe, one is very likely to sit for a while above the falls and plan one's decent. The plan might go something like "I'll get as far over to the left as possible, try to make it between those two large rocks, then backferry hard to the right to make it around that next bunch." A great deal of deliberation, discussion, simulation, and reconstruction may go into such a plan. But, however detailed, the plan stops short of the actual business of getting your canoe through the falls. When it really comes down to the details of responding to currents and handling a canoe, you effectively abandon the plan and fall back on whatever embodied skills are available to you.​

Jobs was a brilliant canoer. In fact, while many think of him as the great visionaire it was not so much his vision* that made his brilliance, but his ability to draw upon the embodied skills that was available to him - what BillG once summarized in terms of taste. Much like a great canoer, Jobs had wicked gut-feeling. Like few others he was able to navigate the rapids of technology, effectively finding his way through the rapids. This was his forte, this was what made Apple as we now know it.

That said, i am sure that there are many brilliant people working at Apple. However, having brilliant employees is hardly enough. Nor is the right "enterprise DNA". To highlight the importance of Jobs is not so much to downgrade the brilliance of others. Its merely a recognition of his (somewhat) unique touch.

Will Apple live on? Surely. But without Jobs there to navigate the rapids, well... it might just get rough. It may perhaps not happen tomorrow, perhaps not even for years to come, but surely he was "more than a man".

This is not to mean that others could not take his place. Rather, my concerns are with "Jobs-like people" being able to reach a position where they can have enough influence. Jobs in many ways started an era, and as such he was self-written as a leader in many ways. Such fortune is however exception rather than norm, and, with Jobs gone, it may take long until someone is able to fill his shoes.... or rather, allowed to even try. This, the latter, if anything, will be the downfall of Apple.

The day Apple becomes "just another corporation" they have lost their soul. And unfortunately, i think that day will come sooner than most here would expect. Its simply far to easy to just "run the show", ignoring that the show of today may be obsolete tomorrow. And once you go down that path, change usually doesnt happen until its way too late.

* guess i might expand on this before the downvoters join in. Vision, in a sense, is easy. In fact, most visions implemented today are ones that were made decades ago. Imagining what something could be is quite easy. Rather, Jobs skill was in marketing. Not marking as "making a bs-product look good", but rather "taking the available - the currently possible - and making something great out of it, at a point in time where it makes sense doing so".

(ironically as i was just publishing this Wozniak came on TV speaking of Jobs marketing skills...)

If one equates brilliance with technical skills and degrees they truly have missed the meaning of brilliance.

It's in Apple's DNA. The diverse group of people that have and continue to pass through those doors have all sorts of technical skills equal to any corporation in the globe. I've been in it first hand at NeXT and Apple.

What I can tell you is Apple's DNA of today comes from NeXT and has own blossomed into the goals NeXT dreamed of but never could harness, in terms of critical mind share.

There were many old Apple alum who were not happy seeing their company becoming NeXT 2.0.

They were fools then and are fools today.

Those who `get it' understand all too well how come NeXT was considered the most arrogant corporation in the Tech Industry. We were very confident in our abilities to turn Apple into what it could become.

How come? If you know your history you'll discover most of the innovative Silicon Valley corporations were littered with former Apple and then NeXT and now NeXT 2.0 alumni.

Whether at Oracle, Microsoft, IBM, Google, Facebook, Amazon, Sun [now at Oracle], SGI, ILM, PIXAR and beyond, you'll find former early days Apple, NeXT and now Apple Inc talent littered throughout.

Walk through Oracle, IBM, Google, etc., and then walk through Apple. It'll become more clear when the new Campus is built.

The DNA and life of Apple is deep and wide in all areas of what makes consumer digital end products worth using.

In heavy development Apple wanted to help GCC and got a huge snubbing.

In 5 years, GCC will be fully replaced by LLVM/Clang, with the exceptions of Fortran, ADA, D and other older and less known languages.

GCC will become the second choice of code development on Linux and other UNIX platforms.

LLVM/Clang, in 5 years will knock off even Microsoft's own compiler tools.

Visual Studio support is being worked on by Windows Devs salivating at getting the power of LLVM/Clang under the hood of their personal VS C/C++ IDE.

Intel has punted on Intel Compiler and moving more and more of it's work to LLVM/Clang.

Above it all, Xcode and LLVM/Clang will still be the best marriage of all and people wondering if this is the best of Apple will either be mad or elated in knowing that the talent hard at work who have been working with Steve as late as 1989/1990 have the same eye for detail and passion he had.

We won't be able to replace his iconic ability to synthesize it all and trap everyone in his RDF but then again name one company who has such a charismatic leader.

I suggest you go work there and find out what I'm talking about.

You won't be disappointed that the descriptions of working there always undershoot the real thing.

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Over the past 5 years, Jony Ive has been the most important person at Apple in terms of product design. Tim Cook, while obviously not as charismatic as Steve, will do more than fine as CEO. Put those 2 together and Apple is firmly on the same road they were on before and still going strong.

Don't worry. :)

Most people don't realize that Tim Cook's background was a degree in Design.
 
They need to update Siri with an option to pick Steve's voice. Then he could live on in his iPhones.

Ick...


How come? If you know your history you'll discover most of the innovative Silicon Valley corporations were littered with former Apple and then NeXT and now NeXT 2.0 alumni.

Tautology. If you look at any company here you'll find people who worked at other companies.

Palm had a lot of Apple people - did it do them any good?

Other companies had former Apple folks, and MBA Tim's lawyers are suing the lot.


It'll become more clear when the new Campus is built.

Apple 2 will never happen. It is one of the most wasteful, stupid ideas to ever be proposed in the valley.

Without the turtlenecked overlord to "wow" the Cupertino council, it will get the scrutiny that it deserves. MBA Tim will cancel the project as it is proposed, and come up with a greener and better proposal that is a better fit for Apple's needs and the valley's needs.

Apple 2 is like Stonehenge - interesting, but why did they build it?
 
Over the past 5 years, Jony Ive has been the most important person at Apple in terms of product design. Tim Cook, while obviously not as charismatic as Steve, will do more than fine as CEO. Put those 2 together and Apple is firmly on the same road they were on before and still going strong.

Don't worry. :)

Jony Ive designs cases. Are you sure he knows anything about computers or software?
 
Whether at Oracle, Microsoft, IBM, Google, Facebook, Amazon, Sun [now at Oracle], SGI, ILM, PIXAR and beyond, you'll find former early days Apple, NeXT and now Apple Inc talent littered throughout.

It looks like you are familiar with the industry. Then you should know that this is simply a result of high migration in tech talent. You should have added to this statement that the same companies are also littered with talent from DEC, Sun, IBM, HP etc. It would be more interesting if this talent from Apple grew to prominence in other companies but this does not seem to be the case. There is absolutely nothing special about Apple talent. In fact, given Steve Jobs personality it's hard to imagine that any creative engineer would want to stick around such manager for long. We know that Andrew Rubin did not. He left Apple and eventually designed Android.
 
Here is a funny one

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“He was a legacy kind of guy,” said Peter Misek, managing director and senior technology analyst at Jefferies and Company. “I’m not going to say that anyone at Apple is Steve Jobs, because they’re not. (But) he always looks forward, and I would suspect that he has a very robust product road map for the next two to three years.”
In fact, “he probably had a roadmap of the next 10 years worked out,” he added.


If it worked this way that would mean that Steve Jobs planned iPads somewhere in 2000 when capacitive screens did not exists; decent CPUs consumed at least 100W; 2G, 3G and 4G did not exist (did we even have WiFi back then?)
 
Even though I know Apple's got the most talented people around and that the products we use everyday wouldn't be here without them, I can't help thinking that it won't be the same, no matter how hard they try because historically, when Steve Jobs first left, the company went into ruins. The economic situation isn't the same as back then, but it did happen once and that scares me. Moreover, one cannot deny Steve's extraordinary implication in absolutely everything Apple's ever done, much more than any other CEO, and that will have an impact, unmeasurable at the present time.

In short, the future of computing seems to me far less thrilling today, now that he's gone. :(

Please Apple teams, prove me wrong !
 
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