Steve Jobs 'Worked Closely' on Design of Next-Generation iPhone with Larger Display

[mastsethi]

After displays as big as 4.8", bigger screen in iPhone 5 is inevitable.

 

[dponte]

With regards to this (and in a way why changing sizes is a big deal).

Apple is not Samsung. What I mean by that is, Samsung already makes hundreds of products. They have large resources for manufacturing a vast array of designs ranging from Cell phones and displays to big screen TV's. Samsung sells options.

Apple functions on a very different business model. They sell Exclusivity. They can't make a huge selection of devices and have no interest in it. There will be One iPhone. Potentially two if you count This model and Last model, since the manufacturing process for the last model will remain unchanged and will not require a new plant.

With that in mind, changing the screen size means one of two things... Either a change in the way all iPhones will be made going forward, or a change in Apple's manufacturing and a shift towards offering more product variety.

OK fair enough reply. But, I better not see TWO iPad models!

Thanks.

 

[golfgirlgolf]

if you speak to smartphone users and see where they have been heading in recent years, then you will see that many tend to be exploring other options, or moving away from the iPhone

FWIW, I for one, am seriously considering moving away from Android and TOWARDS the iPhone - if I can. The main thing stopping me right now is the relatively tiny display size compared to my HTC EVO 4G.

Am I not among the "many"? Hard to say. I might guess in a world where millions of new phones are put in service regularly, iPhone is losing many buyers over this one shortcoming.

 

[Bezetos]

Well, the guy is not infallible (Cube, Hippie Bubble iMacs, lack of CD burners in iMacs, etc.), but he was either watching the market and adjusting accordingly or telling his competitors the wrong thing (nobody wants video on an iPod...)... or both. To assume he didn't do both would be silly.

What I'm trying to say is, it's lame to try to come up with such excuses for Jobs if suddenly he changes his mind and decides that actually, a bigger screen is not a bad idea at all. Saying, that previously he was just "misdirecting his competition" is lame, or I could even say pathetic. If Apple are going for a bigger screen there must be a perfectly valid reason why they're doing that - it doesn't mean that they made a bad decision in the past.

It's quite possible for someone to conceive of ideas where the technology isn't there yet. They were talking about large-screen TVs that would hang flat on the wall 60 years ago. We wouldn't have them if people hadn't been working on the long before they became commercially viable.

It's not as if Jobs had 10 years of production-ready units sitting in his garage. It's more like, "OK, when screen technology is at point a, and memory is at b, and battery is at c, then we can introduce a phone that does d."

Things are a lot different nowadays. Inventors and manufacturers have to be more reactive as technology is progressing so fast it is difficult for one person to follow it. So while in the past it was normal to plan 10 years ahead based on certain assumptions (as you've said), nowadays companies usually plan 2-3 years ahead tops (unless of course you're Planetary Resources and you have to have a 10+ year plan, because you want to go to space).

 

[Winter Charm]

I want the iPhone/iPods to support the FireWire adapter cable again. It would provide much faster data transfer. It's frustrating to be a Mac user and be stuck with devices that Apple made that use USB.

Forget firewire. If apple wants to push for a faster connector, Thunderbolt is the way to go.

 

[faroZ06]

Forget firewire. If apple wants to push for a faster connector, Thunderbolt is the way to go.

Thunderbolt is overkill, though. The bottleneck would be in the iPod's disk at that point. Also, only the newest Macs have Thunderbolt at the moment. The fact that you can only buy a Thunderbolt cable from Apple discourages many people (and me) from even using it.

 

[Darthdingo]

So Apple is going to use the ghost of Steve Jobs to help sell the new iPhone Thats a bit tacky, and how long will they string that out, for the next few iPhone release, saying Steve designed this and that of the iPhone7 right before his death.

Just sounds like poor taste.

 

[Winter Charm]

Thunderbolt is overkill, though. The bottleneck would be in the iPod's disk at that point. Also, only the newest Macs have Thunderbolt at the moment. The fact that you can only buy a Thunderbolt cable from Apple discourages many people (and me) from even using it.

I know what you mean, but what if Apple started giving TB cables out with every single iPod? soon they'd be so widespread...

and there's nothing wrong with overkill

 

[Renzatic]

So Apple is going to use the ghost of Steve Jobs to help sell the new iPhone Thats a bit tacky, and how long will they string that out, for the next few iPhone release, saying Steve designed this and that of the iPhone7 right before his death.

Just sounds like poor taste.

Cept for the fact that Steve Jobs probably did have a goodly bit of input on the design of the new iPhone, which probably went into the design phase shortly after the release of the 4.

 

[faroZ06]

I know what you mean, but what if Apple started giving TB cables out with every single iPod? soon they'd be so widespread...

and there's nothing wrong with overkill

The problem with overkill is the price.

But I agree that Apple should give out more TB cables. Their standard is never going to go anywhere unless they are actually nice to the only ones who use it.

 

[Darthdingo]

Cept for the fact that Steve Jobs probably did have a goodly bit of input on the design of the new iPhone, which probably went into the design phase shortly after the release of the 4.

I agree, I am sure the iPhone-Next was personally approved by Mr. Jobs himself, I mean the design process I am sure takes a good year or two, so Steve would have been able to be directly involved. And of course iOS6 could be all Steve, a whole newly redesigned OS, take a lot of time to develop.

But that's it, I doubt the iPhone6 and iOS7 are Steve's, and even more so iPhone7 and iOS8

 

[Alex72]

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Comically huge is apparently in the eye of the beholder.

I MEAN MY GOD! IT'S LIKE A QUARTER OF AN INCH WIDER! DO THEY THINK ME A GIANT WITH MASSIVELY LARGE HANDS WITH WHICH TO GRASP THINGS? I AM NOT A FREAK, SIRS!

Within the design realm dwelt in by Apple and other technology/lifestyle companies, an extra quarter of an inch can completely change the character of a product. The fact is that, as far as pocketable devices go, the 4+ inch phones I've seen and handled do really come across as a tad too big.

 

[theumang]

I am asking/lamenting to those on this forum. Frankly, I do not see why having 2 different iPhones would be detrimental to Apple, since they are supposedly going with a 7" and 10" iPad.

we dont know for sure if they are going to bring the 7" iPad to the market,
Products & their pictures do not mean they'll be out (you guys remember those iPod touch 3 rumors with cameras?)

however 3.5" x 2 = 7" so the retina display for the current iPod touch & iPhone apps, if is doubled'll fit perfectly, however we do not know what ratio will the new iPhone have, frankly we wont know until it makes it to the keynote in Sept. this year / we see a youtube leak which has Steve in a recorded video announcing the phone which'll be taken down by the Apple Ninjas in no time.