These aren't really the issues. Android phones have ok battery life because they cram in huge batteries. UI is still far superior on iOS and reliability is something that can only be judged in hindsight.
The iPhone is in no trouble whatsoever.
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Steve was right the truly build a phone 5 years ahead of its time
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These aren't really the issues. Android phones have ok battery life because they cram in huge batteries. UI is still far superior on iOS and reliability is something that can only be judged in hindsight.
The iPhone is in no trouble whatsoever.
"Do rid"? That's a cute auto correct....what century is it from?
I laugh at post like this. The guy with the iPhone has a friend that got a nexus and this and that blah blah. Meanwhile the people using the gnex to post experiences and opinions are wrong....
Steve Jobs was absolutely right when he said the iPhone was 5 years ahead of any other phone. Apple changed and defined what a smartphone is and should be and it's taken the competition 5 years to catch up...but they have caught up. This means only good things for us consumers.
I know everyone is talking about the GS3 and they should be. It's awesome. The GS3 is really the first competitor that has the hardware and software chops to compete with the iPhone. I spent a good 30 minutes just holding one and am amazed at all the crazy stuff that is inside a phone that is so thin. I have a funny feeling that Apple started sueing Samsung last year because of the GS3. I bet that Apple got wind of it and it was a little too close for comfort. It really just looks like something that Apple would have designed. I am very hopeful for the next iPhone and what it will bring. If Samsung can create such a nice design, I know Jon Ive can match it.
The biggest problem for the competition is that they gave Apple a 5 year head start. I'm locked into the Apple ecosystem and you'd have to release something impossible to comprehend for me to move. My wife, parents, inlaws, siblings, friends, and colleagues are also locked in which is a really big obstacle to overcome.
I know everyone is talking about the GS3 and they should be. It's awesome. The GS3 is really the first competitor that has the hardware and software chops to compete with the iPhone. I spent a good 30 minutes just holding one and am amazed at all the crazy stuff that is inside a phone that is so thin. I have a funny feeling that Apple started sueing Samsung last year because of the GS3. I bet that Apple got wind of it and it was a little too close for comfort. It really just looks like something that Apple would have designed. I am very hopeful for the next iPhone and what it will bring. If Samsung can create such a nice design, I know Jon Ive can match it.
The biggest problem for the competition is that they gave Apple a 5 year head start. I'm locked into the Apple ecosystem and you'd have to release something impossible to comprehend for me to move. My wife, parents, inlaws, siblings, friends, and colleagues are also locked in which is a really big obstacle to overcome.
As much as I enjoy my iPhone I'm on Android forums just as much. While I agree Apple is certainly not in trouble I've never seen so many people leaving the platform. There is like 1 thread of someone considering iOS currently and like 10 - 15 people going to Android on this forum. On the S3 forums its like 10x that (normal people that tell Android owners they got Android instead of iOS owners they got Android).
I feel that there was a day when people left Android all the time but currently it feels the opposite...
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I won't disagree. But my 4S does stuff like that all the time. Some of my post are barely legible.
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Hardware is lacking for the manufacture UI. The Nexus's and Xoom run vanilla android....the rooms on the of Droid work but its a stretch and not good enough for the average user.
That's not the phones fault. If you can't type, you can't blame the phone. The phone only corrects words to other words that are similarly spelled / words than can be created with keys placed closely to the ones you typed the word with.
This is a poor excuse. I have a 4S and an iPad and I have no problem typing at a fairly fast pace with minimal problems.
Don't preach to me, I'm not the one with the obvious auto correction error. Tell the "do rid" poster....
Besides done changes to some, do changes to so etc etc. But I agree I should proof read everything I type instead of assuming its the way I originally typed it.
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He said he can get a universal app for iPhone and iPad but some android tablet apps are unplayable/unusable, right?
So I ask which are unplayable/unusable.
Then you list an app that is universal like the described with the iPhone and iPad and that is totally playable/usable on an Android tablet.
Is that what just happened there?
I think the universal app thing and the unplayable/unusable thing were two separate thoughts.
What UI?? There is no UI in iOS. Once you get past lockscreen, it's just another bunch of icons. iOS has the most stale and boring UI in the entire universe.
WP has the most refreshing UI.
I do agree WP is pretty clean, but then again, icons are the only way to do it on phones, pretty much.
I should add that Android is just a bunch of icons as well. Widgets are glorified icons.
every device lags.Whether it be iPhones or androids. They lag once in a while, just not as often as it used to. So solve the issues of the OS upgrade madness, and have more quality reviewed apps in the appstore. After toiling in the android app store, it was clear that there was a fair more amount of junk than iOS. Improve build quality of phones, remove the icky capacitive touch panes and make it all physical or all soft keys, and then we'll talk.
Android phones have very good concepts. The concept of very powerful processors and having a lot of desktop functionality in a phone is really good, something I hope apple does more of in iOS. But the issue is that it also brings some of the desktop problems into android. E.g, I recently read an article of an imitation angry birds app in the appstore that was stealing money.
It's sad that most of the real android users I've seen(not techies in forums) choose android for fancy moving wallpapers, widgets that show the wrong weather(I'm not kidding, because where I live, the weather is almost always wrong) and over saturated screen colors. One thing funny is that I saw one of these people showing off the apps on his galaxy s2 and saying it's better than iPhone. I had to face palm it. And he was saying that the GPU of an S2 was better than that of the 4S. I challenged the claim and showed him benchmarks. He responded by saying that the benchmarks were faked and from apple. He claimed that the graphics of an s2 were better because of it's super duper MAMAMOLED plus ultra premium display had more saturated colors. I didn't even bother explaining that over saturated is not always equal to better quality.
And another fan who I had a heated argument with, resorted to repeated saying and confirming that he knows everything and that I should listen to him. I couldn't take him seriously.
Anywho, I have nothing personal against android and I don't really care if people prefer android over apple. I like it a lot in fact. But when people act stupid, whether it be fandroids like the one above or even ignorant apple fanboys, thats what irritates me.
Sorry for the long post, but I had to offload my chest
Android phones have very good concepts. The concept of very powerful processors and having a lot of desktop functionality in a phone is really good, something I hope apple does more of in iOS. But the issue is that it also brings some of the desktop problems into android. E.g, I recently read an article of an imitation angry birds app in the appstore that was stealing money.
It's sad that most of the real android users I've seen(not techies in forums) choose android for fancy moving wallpapers, widgets that show the wrong weather(I'm not kidding, because where I live, the weather is almost always wrong) and over saturated screen colors. One thing funny is that I saw one of these people showing off the apps on his galaxy s2 and saying it's better than iPhone. I had to face palm it. And he was saying that the GPU of an S2 was better than that of the 4S. I challenged the claim and showed him benchmarks. He responded by saying that the benchmarks were faked and from apple. He claimed that the graphics of an s2 were better because of it's super duper MAMAMOLED plus ultra premium display had more saturated colors. I didn't even bother explaining that over saturated is not always equal to better quality.
And another fan who I had a heated argument with, resorted to repeated saying and confirming that he knows everything and that I should listen to him. I couldn't take him seriously.
Anywho, I have nothing personal against android and I don't really care if people prefer android over apple. I like it a lot in fact. But when people act stupid, whether it be fandroids like the one above or even ignorant apple fanboys, thats what irritates me.
Sorry for the long post, but I had to offload my chest
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It was called the Nexus S. Of course it didn't have ICS. Android 4.0 wasn't out when the Nexus S was released. It does have it now though.
Wait, did you really just attempt to redefine "fragmented" as "wonderful diversity?"
Oh my....you really are blind to the truth.
I read through his posts in this thread and he comes across as a bit delusional!
Android is the most fragmented operating system on Earth (discounting irrelevant dead or dying systems such as Symbian). Just the fact that many new Android phones are running outdated OS versions (and often won't receive further updates) highlights this.
Furthermore, the huge variation in display sizes and resolutions, processor speeds and other specifications adds another layer of complexity to the Android device community.
I kinda feel sorry for Android developers and I can clearly see why most app devs prefer making their apps for iOS.
No. I read that it was first rolled out then google removed it for some reason.
Jelly Bean no lag? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA....MMMMKAY!
That's what they said about ICS, too.
AnDUHroid will always have lag, it's inherent to their memory management programming. It sucks. Period.
Is this serious?
iOS will freeze everything going on to prioritize user input to make it look pretty. Open a busy page in a browser (any browser) in iOS and start scrolling up and down. The page won't even download while you do that.
Android will continue to load and still allow scrolling of course it maybe jittery, think of the POS Facebook app on iOS my 4S is laggy in that crappy app. But now Android has managed to do both, load with user input and be smooth.
That was the end of last year. It's been out for months now.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/28/android-4-0-4-rolls-out-to-hspa-galaxy-nexus-and-gsm-nexus-s/
My thoughts exactly. I think they only error apple ever made was making the IPhone 4 too good. The thing is they have to create and add something amazing on their new phone.
The iPhone is an iconic product, how can you make it better, without changing the experience is the real problem apple is facing right now.
I read through his posts in this thread and he comes across as a bit delusional!
Android is the most fragmented operating system on Earth (discounting irrelevant dead or dying systems such as Symbian). Just the fact that many new Android phones are running outdated OS versions (and often won't receive further updates) highlights this.
Furthermore, the huge variation in display sizes and resolutions, processor speeds and other specifications adds another layer of complexity to the Android device community.
I kinda feel sorry for Android developers and I can clearly see why most app devs prefer making their apps for iOS.
Considering the fact that there's only 2 relevant mobile OS's in the market--Android and iOS--that's not saying much.
Which new phones? I'm planning on getting an Android phone in the near future, so it'd be nice to know.
Also, the fragmentation is a consequence of Google not controlling the hardware. Although honestly, I'm glad Android has a variety of phones. Can you imagine what the smartphone market would look like with only two phones? The iPhone, with a 3.5" screen, and all its specs. And then Google's phone, with a different sized screen and all its specs. And the older iterations of each device, of course.
Which common apps are afflicted by the fragmentation? If I buy a flagship phone like the S3, what apps that a lot of people use would I not be able to use as a result of fragmentation?