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I mean, if you are really that much into twitter, how hard is it to just have an icon be the first one on your home screen? How is touching an icon that is always in the same place harder than swiping left? BTW Google called. They said "Thanks for giving us all of your personal info in exchange for a free OS." Apparently, Google has YOU by the balls. Didn't your parents tell you that nothing in life is free? P.S. a phone shouldn't need antivirus software. Malware will have you by the balls eventually too. And for crying out loud, who in the world wants those ugly ass, Windows looking, rag tag, poorly designed icons from 1998 on their screen?...apparently the Android crowd doesn't care about design..they would rather have a freaking widget. Widgets are unbelievably lame. I have not used dashboard on my Mac in ages.
Yeah I know..but I think apple wants to keep the battery life as good as possibleit's ok for me as long as we got better notification and the lockscreen info ect..
Widgets can be done with only a nominal effect on battery life. My Droid X battery has been great ever since 2.3, even with all sorts of widgets running.
I wish we could have a legit discussion without the fanboys turning this into a fight. They just won't support any feature until it is adopted by Apple. Once Apple incorporates widgets, they will love it to death despite hating it now, or "not seeing any use for widgets". lol. come on...
I love the iphone, and like that they are heading in the right direction with the updates. I still feel that it isn't enough to keep up with android, but I would give up some android features to get back on the iphone experience if the iphone 5 wows me.
Some widgets on Android become nonresponsive after a while (i think it has to do with the internal task killer) and I think that if implemented by Apple, they would get it right.
Please, fanboys (both android and apple) stop. really, get a life. both platforms are great. get over it.
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Looks like iOS 5 will have the jailbroken ability to create widgets: http://www.tipb.com/2011/06/10/custom-notification-center-widgets-ios-5-coming-jailbreak/
"As a basic example, you could create a custom widget to list recently created notes in a snippet view, and when a note is tapped it will take you directly to the Notes app. In theory, there’s also the possibility of nesting WiFi, 3G, bluetooth and other toggles in the Notification Center (similar to SBSettings)."
"As a basic example, you could create a custom widget to list recently created notes in a snippet view, and when a note is tapped it will take you directly to the Notes app. In theory, there’s also the possibility of nesting WiFi, 3G, bluetooth and other toggles in the Notification Center (similar to SBSettings)."
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I have no desire for widgets or live wallpapers. Live icons, please!
I have no desire for widgets or live wallpapers. Live icons, please!
I agree. iOS is very clean looking, widgets would only clutter up the home screen. So, I'm kinda content with this. However, it would be cool if Apple let people make their own widgets in the Notification Center where the weather widget is right now. It'd be cool to be able to replace it, or add more widgets and access them with a simple swipe to the right or left.
dynamic icons ftw!!!wirelessly posted (opera/9.80 (iphone; opera mini/6.13548/24.871; u; en) presto/2.5.25 version/10.54)
i have no desire for widgets or live wallpapers. Live icons, please!
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I have no desire for widgets or live wallpapers. Live icons, please!
What's the difference besides being smaller? or were you being sarcastic?
This seems exactly like the plugin approach to lockinfo and a welcome addition. Let's hope there'll be many options available to those who which to use them.
The detractors can just lump it because people will find a way, and what's it to them really if others want to use something called a widget. Geesh. People get sooooo protective of their daddy's OS.
Uh, no.
As I've stated before in this thread and on other threads, it's not an important enough aspect for me to decide to buy a phone over (though oddly enough I'm usually telling this to Android fans who think that's an argument to go to Android, not apple fans who don't want widgets). You do realize I can think that iOS could be better if they added stuff and still like it, right? I don't have to like everything or have absolutely no complaints to prefer it. Just cause it doesn't have one thing doesn't mean I should go running off to some other phone. After all, nothing is going to be perfect and I doubt anyone will ever make *my* perfect device.
But I do think it would be a nifty feature to iphone. As others have said, if you don't want widgets, it would be as simple as, wait for it.... turning the function off or not putting any widgets on your phone. So I fail to see why people who are anti widget are so afraid of them implementing it. It doesn't mean you have to use that feature. I fully plan on turning off the stock widget that comes with iOS5 as I am not going to use it. No skin off my back.
I use an android phone right now. I used the xperia arc, the moto atrix and currently am on a samsung galaxy s.
Let me say this, once the novelty wears off, the widgets are no longer important. Maybe to some, but not to me atleast. I prefer battery life, and the app opening method of extra 1-2 seconds doesn't make it a life or death thing for me.
Isn't that sad that I have changed the captivate's homescreens to make it look like iOS? with app pages on them and no widgets. I had widgets on every screen and after a week noticed I didn't even need most of them.
I prefer the iOS/Wp7 way of simplistic screens. Call me ignorant, steve jobs/steve ballmer ass kisser, brain dead or whatever people usually get called when they sport an iPhone or a samsung focus, but things that work out of the box > things that need tweaking. And many of us like that.
My next phone is definitely a WP7 or an iPhone. IMO both apple and MS have a better idea of mobile OS than google whose only job is to push their ad-ridden and clunky OS (just last night I had 3 force closures and one phone freeze...thats on firefly with an optimized kernel...) by flooding the market with android phones...
All the iPhone needs now IMO is a tad bigger screen. WP7 already got it covered and watching movies on a 4 inch screen is the only thing i admire about the captivate i have.
Let me say this, once the novelty wears off, the widgets are no longer important. Maybe to some, but not to me atleast. I prefer battery life, and the app opening method of extra 1-2 seconds doesn't make it a life or death thing for me.
Isn't that sad that I have changed the captivate's homescreens to make it look like iOS? with app pages on them and no widgets. I had widgets on every screen and after a week noticed I didn't even need most of them.
I prefer the iOS/Wp7 way of simplistic screens. Call me ignorant, steve jobs/steve ballmer ass kisser, brain dead or whatever people usually get called when they sport an iPhone or a samsung focus, but things that work out of the box > things that need tweaking. And many of us like that.
My next phone is definitely a WP7 or an iPhone. IMO both apple and MS have a better idea of mobile OS than google whose only job is to push their ad-ridden and clunky OS (just last night I had 3 force closures and one phone freeze...thats on firefly with an optimized kernel...) by flooding the market with android phones...
All the iPhone needs now IMO is a tad bigger screen. WP7 already got it covered and watching movies on a 4 inch screen is the only thing i admire about the captivate i have.
I dropped WP7 out of frustration with MS. I used to develop some of the models for HTC and do some XDA-deving. Over the course of 15 years, I've learned a very important lesson: If it's MS, all support goes out the window and it's a DIY job for every Windows Mobile phone and now WP7. Not only that but I think the WP7 interface is pretty ineffective for mobile use. It's primarily designed for people that want active content on the background and people I like to call "swipers". Look below for my definition. Android reduces on the number of moves it takes to get critical information but when launching apps, the 1-2 seconds adds up over the course of a year. The math for this is as follows: let's assume a 1 second addition to application launching. Let's also assume you open 20 apps per day (that's pretty conservative). That's an additional 20 seconds per day that you're spending opening applications. 365 days per year means that it's 7300 seconds which is essentially 2 hours per year you're wasting on extra movements inside the OS. That's a full length movie right there or an additional 2 hours of sleep.
So why do I dislike MS for their WP7 so much? It's not UNIX based so security is compromised from the start, it's got a registry that gets overloaded so I've had mobile OS crashes due to that, it's also a DIY job if you need to fix bugs or sort out hardware glitches. iOS and Android both have much more stable bases for mobile computing and while it is a little ad ridden, I have to admit that I save more time per year using either Android or iOS. WP7's flashy interface is just flashy. It's a cover for all the ancient code and buggy features in the device. If you're a tweaker and enjoy tweaking the device to optimal performance, WP7 is for you. If you're tired of tweaking something that just never seems to work right, you're better off with iOS or Android. If you're tired of closing apps down, application freezes, and kernel panics, iOS is the only device out there with that type of experience.
Swipers - Yes, it's those people who incessantly poke around on their capacitive screens who either try to look important or are just bored and need to do something with their hands. Yes, it applies to iOS, WP7, and Android users. These are the people who are normally ADHD or ADD afflicted and have a major problem communicating without fidgeting. They just can't seem to do the powerful things in life and focus on the important interpersonal relationships.
So why do I dislike MS for their WP7 so much? It's not UNIX based so security is compromised from the start, it's got a registry that gets overloaded so I've had mobile OS crashes due to that, it's also a DIY job if you need to fix bugs or sort out hardware glitches. iOS and Android both have much more stable bases for mobile computing and while it is a little ad ridden, I have to admit that I save more time per year using either Android or iOS. WP7's flashy interface is just flashy. It's a cover for all the ancient code and buggy features in the device. If you're a tweaker and enjoy tweaking the device to optimal performance, WP7 is for you. If you're tired of tweaking something that just never seems to work right, you're better off with iOS or Android. If you're tired of closing apps down, application freezes, and kernel panics, iOS is the only device out there with that type of experience.
Swipers - Yes, it's those people who incessantly poke around on their capacitive screens who either try to look important or are just bored and need to do something with their hands. Yes, it applies to iOS, WP7, and Android users. These are the people who are normally ADHD or ADD afflicted and have a major problem communicating without fidgeting. They just can't seem to do the powerful things in life and focus on the important interpersonal relationships.
Right. We all know Jobs is a very poor CEO and you could tell him a thing or two about building a successful mobile phone.
Ha, this describes me when I'm bored but not really interested in actually doing anything on my iphone. I tend to swipe around and idly look around my phone cause at least it's something to do and I can play with my phone even if I can't get myself interested in one of my many games (either not interested at the moment or too involved and I don't want to start it when I only have a little bit of time to kill).
I still don't like W7 from what I've seen of it though (but, only played with it at the stores so it's not like I have extensive experience with it).
Thank you.
Right. We all know Jobs is a very poor CEO and you could tell him a thing or two about building a successful mobile phone.
For the Win
No real source, just my term for swipers. There are two types normally. As Tigress666 says, there are some people when bored just start to play with the OS and does it during down time. That's a non-habitual swiper. There's the habitual swiper who looks like they are swiping intently who just do it to show off the phone. This however kinda backfires because everyone around them use the same phone >.<. They also do it as a defense mechanism while they are talking with people, or in meetings so in case they miss something you said, they could just say that they were checking their e-mail. Something is definitely intrinsically wrong with their life and they are also the same ones that have Facebook/Twitter addiction which drives their need to communicate with people without really interacting with them.
I've used several WP7 phones and have even flashed it on several different device ROMs. It's base is still the same old Windows CE concept we saw in the early 90s. It's just that the top layer has been rewritten.
I've used several WP7 phones and have even flashed it on several different device ROMs. It's base is still the same old Windows CE concept we saw in the early 90s. It's just that the top layer has been rewritten.