I am not talking about editing a playlist. I am talking about removing unwanted tracks, movies, etc., without the need to do so through iTunes. As I said before, this can be performed on the iPhone/iPod Touch.
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I am not talking about editing a playlist. I am talking about removing unwanted tracks, movies, etc., without the need to do so through iTunes. As I said before, this can be performed on the iPhone/iPod Touch.
I don't think you can delete songs off an iPhone/iPod touch, either. Or maybe you can if you have it set to manually manage music? Mine's set to sync, and I don't have any other iPod or iPhone around to experiment with.
Videos are odd. On the iPad, I can delete Podcasts and TV shows, but not Movies or Music Videos. I'm pretty sure that any type of videos can be deleted off the iPhone/iPod touch. This is likely an oversight that crept in when they were redesigning the Video.app for the iPad. If it bothers you, send a feedback to Apple: http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html
No need to be condescending, ciarran00. There are probably several million iPad users who have never even heard of jailbreaking an iPad; and of those who do know about it, probably quite a few who simply prefer not to spend the time maintaining a jailbroken device. Instead of being sarcastic, how about pointing such people to where they can learn what you already know?
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Macwheels
Maybe I am doing something about it.
Jailbreak wouldn't solve the issue.
Next time try being less of a jerk.
I haven't used Itunes for anything escept upgrading. I use Dropbox to move files around. Quite truthfully I don't put music on the Ipad (its in my Touch) and use Rhapsody and Pandora plus some other radio apps for music, esp. in the background now
I use Filterstorm to process some jpegs but I'm a RAW shooter so upload to my main computer and move finished images back to the Ipad via Dropbox and use Collections to do albums. Reslly, I look at uploading photo files to Photos as much like uploading to a drive--and then you have to do something with the file, but all of that is done with 'programs', not within the folder holding those files.
Basically it depends upon your needs, but I've been really surprised, in a good way, hiw much I cwn do on the Ipad, both productivity and creative plus its totally my web surfer, library, newspapers, etc. Its more than I expected wnd got better with upgrade.
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Wow someone who actually gets it! It's rare around here. Great post, I could not have said that better (not even close).
Query as i ponder iPad's uses
Makes good sense to me; pretty much how I'd envision using one (I'm waiting for iPad 2) But now I'm pondering how much space "I" or anyone needs on an iPad. What size iPad do you all have?
I have a lot on my iPhone (although I know not as much as some people). I change the music, films, photos. I have lots of apps, but the only greedy ones in terms of GB is my navigation app and I wouldn't put those on an iPad. I'm buying my nephew an iPad tomorrow and I don't know what size to get.
Makes good sense to me; pretty much how I'd envision using one (I'm waiting for iPad 2) But now I'm pondering how much space "I" or anyone needs on an iPad. What size iPad do you all have?
I have a lot on my iPhone (although I know not as much as some people). I change the music, films, photos. I have lots of apps, but the only greedy ones in terms of GB is my navigation app and I wouldn't put those on an iPad. I'm buying my nephew an iPad tomorrow and I don't know what size to get.
You are obvoiusly thinking this only in consumer view. Apple is doing this for money. Stuff like itunes and dock connector make apple tons of money. With itunes, apple has good chance of selling songs and video thru their store and they will get more and more developers in. If they start give out freedom, then itunes will fall down quickly. If I was Steve jobs, I would do exactly same thing. Apple doesn't want you to use your own software. Use itunes and buy some of our products. As a consumer, you always have a choice. Buy something else like Galaxy tab, then. Enjoy the support from google.
You've hit the nail on the head - iTunes is a double edged sword; sure you are restricted and tied into an Apple approved ecosystem, but on the other hand you will have better support as, firstly, Apple has a lot more to lose than Google and, secondly, by having tight control of this ecosystem Apple limits the number of variables in said ecosystem, which makes trouble shooting easier.
Android is the opposite - more open but growing more complex due to the myriad of variables by the day - there are now hundreds (?) of different Android phones, each with a unique hardware profile, but there are only 4 iPhones.
Agreed..
But does this account for why we are not supported in simply creating and editing photo albums on the iPad, within the iPad Photos app -- independent of syncing with a computer? I don't see how giving us this ability would topple the iTunes ecosystem..!..
Macwheels
Actually, plenty of people enjoy the iPad, as it's the fasted adopted product in history (faster than DVD players). Not a niche product.
Go to a track or movie in the iPhone iPod app, slide finger left to right, press delete. I don't know why they decided not to include this in the iPad version of the iPod app.
Agreed..
But does this account for why we are not supported in simply creating and editing photo albums on the iPad, within the iPad Photos app -- independent of syncing with a computer? I don't see how giving us this ability would topple the iTunes ecosystem..!..
Macwheels
Somebody has to write code for it, that's why. Writing software isn't easy. I took a software course in high school, wrote a simple program, and proudly showed it off to my family. Instead of being amazed at what the program did do, they were all like, "But why doesn't it do X?" "You should have made it do Y!" I think if I drew a dog, they wouldn't have said, "But where's the dog house?" But for some reason, when you show software to people, they almost always start pointing out features it lacks, instead of appreciating what it does do.
Somebody has to write code for it, that's why. Writing software isn't easy. I took a software course in high school, wrote a simple program, and proudly showed it off to my family. Instead of being amazed at what the program did do, they were all like, "But why doesn't it do X?" "You should have made it do Y!" I think if I drew a dog, they wouldn't have said, "But where's the dog house?" But for some reason, when you show software to people, they almost always start pointing out features it lacks, instead of appreciating what it does do.
w/all due respect, Night Spring:
Apple has plenty of skilled coders who are very capable of doing what would've taken you & me hours to do in high school
(I wrote a BASIC program in high school that took weeks and weeks to troubleshoot, until it finally played a fugue -- which of course I had to listen to repeatedly for all those weeks! )What I want to happen in the iPad Photos app is not anything complicated -- in fact many of the bits & pieces of it are already present in the existing app: right now we have capability to select individual images in the Camera Roll and copy them to the clipboard; it would be trivial to expand on this by adding an additional pop-up message asking if I want to move the selected images to a new album, or delete them from their current album.
None of this says I am not appreciative of what the iPad already does -- it just makes it that much more glaring that something simple & basic has been omitted. Just because "somebody has to write code for it," and "writing code isn't easy," still does not explain why doing so would threaten the iTunes ecosystem (as we were discussing above)
Macwheels
w/all due respect, Night Spring:
Apple has plenty of skilled coders who are very capable of doing what would've taken you & me hours to do in high school
Macwheels
True, but the software they are writing is also a LOT more complicated than our simple little high school software projects. I remember back when we were still waiting for copy&paste for iOS, one of the Apple senior VPs explained that they had a list of things to work on, and they simply hadn't gotten to it yet. now it's true that Apple's priorities can be idiosyncratic and often leave us scratching our head, saying, like you are doing now, that doing X or Y or Z will be simple and won't take up that much time or man power, so why don't they do it already? But every organization has finite resources, even if they are as big and rich as Apple. And they have to pick and select which problems to work on.
With the iPad, I have a suspicion they spent more resources getting the hardware and "under the hood" part of software right, and rushed a lot of the apps part. Parts of the standard apps like the iPod app, Video app, Calendar app, and yes, the Photo app feel incomplete, and come on, no Clock app? I still can't find a timer/alarm/world clock as simple and easy to use as Apple's standard iPhone Clock app, but it was never ported to the iPad.
I've given up dwelling on the things still missing from the iPad. I'll enjoy the things it does do, and maybe when someday a few of my wanted features show up, I'll be pleasantly surprised.True, but the software they are writing is also a LOT more complicated than our simple little high school software projects. I remember back when we were still waiting for copy&paste for iOS, one of the Apple senior VPs explained that they had a list of things to work on, and they simply hadn't gotten to it yet. now it's true that Apple's priorities can be idiosyncratic and often leave us scratching our head, saying, like you are doing now, that doing X or Y or Z will be simple and won't take up that much time or man power, so why don't they do it already? But every organization has finite resources, even if they are as big and rich as Apple. And they have to pick and select which problems to work on.
With the iPad, I have a suspicion they spent more resources getting the hardware and "under the hood" part of software right, and rushed a lot of the apps part. Parts of the standard apps like the iPod app, Video app, Calendar app, and yes, the Photo app feel incomplete, and come on, no Clock app? I still can't find a timer/alarm/world clock as simple and easy to use as Apple's standard iPhone Clock app, but it was never ported to the iPad.
You're very nice about it all
(I too miss the clock app, BTW)
I agree with your observations, but I also think that iOS 4.2 should've included some of these basic things that are missing; yes, I agree that they rushed the native apps part when releasing the original iPad -- but I still don't think that really excuses these omissions at this point. As I said, what I want is already halfway done -- and I did send feedback requesting this feature in the Photos app, as I am sure at least some others did as well. It's not like they have no idea of what is missing, I believe..
So-- if the NEXT-gen iPad lacks this feature as well, it will be pretty clear what Apple's intentions are with regard to the Photos app.
..I just want to use the device as, uh, a mobile device -- that doesn't oblige me to tether it (or myself) to *another* device!
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..I just want to use the device as, uh, a mobile device -- that doesn't oblige me to tether it (or myself) to *another* device!
I'm cautiously optimistic that with each generation of iOS and iOS devices, Apple will gracially move them to be more independent and less "tethered" to a "base computer." To me, the iPad does feel more independent than the iPod touch in many ways, partly due to added functionality from third party apps like GoodReader and FileBrowser, but hey, if Apple allowed those apps, they could allow more apps that add more functions, and who really cares if they are built in to the OS or not, as long as they work? I like to sync my iPad with my computer every day because I like to keep my music play count synced, and I'm anal about backups, but if not, I could go for weeks or months without ever syncing my iPad. In fact, I know a few people who use their iPads that way. You want to organize your photos on the iPad? Maybe there's an app for that, if not now then maybe in the future. Yeah, it sucks that the native Photo app doesn't do it. But well, I've been amazed at what there are apps for.
I mean, come on, even with desktop OS, we don't expect Apple and Microsoft to do everything. If there's a feature we want that's not in the OS, somebody's usually written an utility to cover it. It's true that Apple's walled garden doesn't allow quite the range of modifications we can do with desktop OS, which is why I suspect I'll always jailbreak my iDevices.
I think the future is in remote play not native iPad osx support. Eventually wifi will be everywhere and remote play will make the most sense as everyone has at least a high end Mac or pc system they have their main files and apps at anyway. With remote play handheld game systems and laptops and will be useless as they are more cumbersome than tablets and net books. We can for example use final cut, play pc games, etc. All on remote play on our iPads. The speed jsust needs to catch up in terms of wifi and 3G to 4g and also in terms of the programs should be as good as the psp to ps3 remote play option.
You're very nice about it all
(I too miss the clock app, BTW)
I agree with your observations, but I also think that iOS 4.2 should've included some of these basic things that are missing; yes, I agree that they rushed the native apps part when releasing the original iPad -- but I still don't think that really excuses these omissions at this point. As I said, what I want is already halfway done -- and I did send feedback requesting this feature in the Photos app, as I am sure at least some others did as well. It's not like they have no idea of what is missing, I believe..
So-- if the NEXT-gen iPad lacks this feature as well, it will be pretty clear what Apple's intentions are with regard to the Photos app.
..I just want to use the device as, uh, a mobile device -- that doesn't oblige me to tether it (or myself) to *another* device!
There are a ton of little features that people want but Apple can't add everything, it's just not possible. And it doesn't matter what they choose to add some people are always going to be disappointed because they wanted something else. They just can't please everyone.
And to be honest, the iPad just wasn't meant to be its own device, not yet anyway. You should really sync it regularly, even if just to backup.
Writing the code and user interface to move images from album to album should be pretty straightforward. The real difficulty comes when you consider syncing those changes back to a computer. At the moment the sync only goes one way, from iPhoto to your iPad. If you could make significant changes to the Photo Library on your iPad then the sync would have to become two way so that it could send those changes back to iPhoto and that makes the syncing problem much more difficult. You have to start considering all of the nasty corner-cases where the same thing is modified in different ways and what the "right" thing is do during the sync.
Note that I'm not saying that the problem is impossible or that it's something that Apple shouldn't be working on (personally I'd love an expanded Photos App), however it is definitely not a "trivial" or "easy" change to make.
Web-based mail is probably my main thought... I receive files and other attachments all the time... I guess it's just about changing habits and setting everything through the local mail client...
Wait, what? I guess I don't understand what you're saying here.
EDIT: Nevermind...I see now..."ghttp://..." Wow, that's handy...never knew about that before.