you make good points. BUT, in no way is the macbook air makes the mbp look outdated. the mbp still looks like something from the future.
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Stop Waiting for the MBP. Apple is not releasing it.
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you make good points. BUT, in no way is the macbook air makes the mbp look outdated. the mbp still looks like something from the future.
That would be why i said that it's arguably nicer and makes it look outdated. Ashetics are something very subjective but I think after 2 years the MBP needs a slight redesign. Maybe a bit of nip and tuck and perhaps incorporating some of the iMac/iPhone/MBA design features to bring it in line with the rest of Apple's product range but nothing drastic.
MBP and MBA are two entirely different machines. However, they both appeal to more affluent, design conscious users. I must admit that I buy the Macs that I just like the best, not necessarily because I truly require all of the power or features. There is no doubt that I tend to "over buy". Drive down the highway and let me know how many of those Porsche owners are driving, or would even know how to drive their cars to the limit?
So how does this apply to the question at hand? I bought the MBA the moment it was available mostly because I think it is just so darn cool. In other words, I bought it because I can. If there was an updated MBP sitting along side it when I was there picking up my MBA, I would have had a decision to make. If I liked the MBP more, I would have bought it. Again, not because I truly require the rich feature set, but just because I might have preferred it to the MBA. And remember, as cool as the MBA is (and it is!), everything it does the MBP does better, albeit heavier and thicker.
The MBP is Apple's flagship laptop and, as such, has to stay competitive with Apple's other offerings and the offerings of other companies. It can't be sitting there next to another product with more up to date features, at least not for very long. By the end of this month we'll see new MBP's with multi touch, black keyboard, magnetic latch, updated iSight and of course Penryn processors. Maybe SSD's. And maybe even a slightly updated form factor a la MBA because, well, they can.
So how does this apply to the question at hand? I bought the MBA the moment it was available mostly because I think it is just so darn cool. In other words, I bought it because I can. If there was an updated MBP sitting along side it when I was there picking up my MBA, I would have had a decision to make. If I liked the MBP more, I would have bought it. Again, not because I truly require the rich feature set, but just because I might have preferred it to the MBA. And remember, as cool as the MBA is (and it is!), everything it does the MBP does better, albeit heavier and thicker.
The MBP is Apple's flagship laptop and, as such, has to stay competitive with Apple's other offerings and the offerings of other companies. It can't be sitting there next to another product with more up to date features, at least not for very long. By the end of this month we'll see new MBP's with multi touch, black keyboard, magnetic latch, updated iSight and of course Penryn processors. Maybe SSD's. And maybe even a slightly updated form factor a la MBA because, well, they can.
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I would like to post something here that is profound, but I can't because I don't have a f**king clue what Apple is going to do, and neither do any of you. I hope that next month they come out with the most kick ass MBP ever... I do know that I am happy with my MB until then, and when it comes out, I will dutifully go buy one. So, save you pounds, pennies, euros, drachmas, WTF else, until the revision. How's that?
I would like to post something here that is profound, but I can't because I don't have a f**king clue what Apple is going to do, and neither do any of you. I hope that next month they come out with the most kick ass MBP ever... I do know that I am happy with my MB until then, and when it comes out, I will dutifully go buy one. So, save you pounds, pennies, euros, drachmas, WTF else, until the revision. How's that?
Right now they can't afford to hold anything back that would create a little stockholder happiness; imo it's probable an update is coming soon.
I need: Nothing amazingly intensive but a bit of Photoshop and indesign that i do as a bit of a side line but I really needed a laptop for Uni that would involve running various network simulation and design software. Along with your standard word processing, graph, database applications. I also need it to be portable so I can take it to labs/lecturers if needed or round a mates for revision/group work. I also need a computer that I can run UNIX apps on (or any derivative of) as I hate Win C IDEs as theyre too restrictive and complicated.
What I want: A computer that will last me for the entire length of my course (4 years). One that will allow me to play the occasional modern game at a reasonable rate (I'm not talking Cyrsis at max here but it wouldn't hurt...) and in the end I always have my consoles. A computer that looks nice and is relatively light, the lighter the better really but as long as it's not a back breaker then I dont mind. A good deal, I don't want to feel like I'm paying to over the odds for something. OS X, but I would make do with any Linux/Unix variant if what I want and need cant be met by an Apple product in the near future.
Although the current MBP would probably give me a good couple of years the real sticking point for me is the graphics card with is just really below par with the offerings of other manufactures and will limit the life span of the MBP. If it wasnt for the needed portability Id be getting a desktop and be saving myself a lot of money. And if it wasnt for my love of OS X Id be going straight to a Win machine and just dual boot Ubuntu.
You want essentially state of the art, most recently available tech at a price below the student discount? And in a newer package, slightly more aesthetically pleasing, and lighter than currently available but without removing any of the bells and whistles. Oh and you want it to do everything you need to do now, but keep doing whatever 'now' needs to be for the next four years. NO COMPUTER EVER is going to remain current and run to your expectations with the then current OS and applications incl. games in four years time.
yea exactly. the graphics card is the limiting factor; and if all they did was update the graphics card, i would be buying. i honestly am indifferent to pennyron.
I'm waiting for a MBP penyrn processor - with or without a major design.
It makes absolutely no sense for Apple not to use this processor in the interim.
As people have said before, Air and MBP are different markets.
I'm waiting on principle:
1. Over priced MBP ( in $CA pricing )
2. I want the latest processor, not yesterday's technology.
If I'm going to spend $2K+, I want the latest processor - and since the Penyrn has been released, thats not too much to ask.
It makes absolutely no sense for Apple not to use this processor in the interim.
As people have said before, Air and MBP are different markets.
I'm waiting on principle:
1. Over priced MBP ( in $CA pricing )
2. I want the latest processor, not yesterday's technology.
If I'm going to spend $2K+, I want the latest processor - and since the Penyrn has been released, thats not too much to ask.
Apple got your money AND unloaded another refurb sitting in their warehouse. Suckit, Steve Jobs!
Exactly! Stop telling me to "stop waiting and just buy it now." If I'm going to give in and pay Apple their outragious premiums then the very least they can do and give me the latest technology. There is not a chance in hell that I'd pay $2000+ for a laptop with a processor that's been available for almost a year!
well...........
you guy's don't get it do you, with the thousands of forums and rumors going arouned, there is so much hype about the macbook pro that if
makes a major change (i.e. case redesign, montevino) it will create so much news that everyone will know about it, SO apples stock will double.
you guy's don't get it do you, with the thousands of forums and rumors going arouned, there is so much hype about the macbook pro that if
makes a major change (i.e. case redesign, montevino) it will create so much news that everyone will know about it, SO apples stock will double.
What i am finding is some people are torn on which laptop to get. Esp. between the MBA and Pro. I guess because of the casing??? Some people may want to wait to see if the MBP will get a redesign before purchasing anything right now. If they are unhappy with the MBP update, then they will get the MBA. I know it seems crazy since these computers are so different in performance. Either way though, Apple will get a purchase from these confused people at some point.
no it's over priced in all pricings actually
and If you want to tell me to buy now instead of waiting, you go right ahead. I already know that I'm waiting, and if you want to go waste your own money, that is fine by me.
I am not so updated on the graphics card. What graphics card do you want and any examples of a laptop providing that card?
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As a matter of fact it is good business sense. The majority of computer shoppers or any tech equipment are not the MR tech heads they are people who walk into a store and say, " I am a musician or graphics designer or movie producer or I just need a computer and I want your best, what do you have"?
These people don't know the latest and greatest from a hole in the ground. By Apple making sure the Penryn MBP's are on the shelves in time doesn't matter to most people.
Good to see you've listened to my other posts and properly read them before shouting your mouth off (but then you wouldn't as I have different opinions to you). Yes I do expect state of the art from a 'Pro' machine that's costing £1500+ but don't make assumptions about my income as I never said how much I had to spend only what I expected for paying a certain price and I think that goes for most people.
I said I wanted a laptop that would last me 4 years but never said that I expected to be able to play the latest and greatest apps/games in 4 years as that would just be stupid. I said the occasional game but if it couldn't hurt Crysis at max i wouldn't complain and i don't anybody else would either but I understand that in the form factor (and price) i want it's not going to happen very soon.
I said that I wouldn't mind an slightly lighter and slimmer MBP, like has happened to the iPod and iMac, I also said i wanted one that incorporated the designs from the newer apple lines, things like the black detailing that seems to be on the iPhone, iMac, iPod and the MBA. It would really just be an evolution like the iMac evolved which I don't think is too much to ask.
I don't want to personally attack you and I have backed my comments in my small number of posts with reasonable logic but you seem to keep picking at everything i say and picking up on one sentence which was often a joke then ranting at me like some crazed idiot. Please don't reply to this post and ****!!( see I can do caps too) as All you’re doing is making yourself look like some immature brat who thinks their status as "demi-god" means your opinion is the be all and end all and when ever some one disagrees with you throw your toys out your cot. So like I said, **** and don't reply to my comments ever again.
Actually you'd find that the majority of music, graphic designers and movie producers would HAVE to be techy if they were in those professions. A graphic designer who knows nothing about computers? Yeah right.
Macbook Pro. Do you know what the Pro stands for? Professional. Therefore people buying them are going to be the people who need all that extra goodness inside and are going to know exactly what they want and need from a laptop. If they knew nothing, they'd probably be sold to normal MacBook.