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Sub $1000 Apple Device?

Originally posted by aasmund
Why not?

the G4 is actually a pretty good archiecture. it is very comarable to Pentium M for example, which is enjoying huge success.
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the g4 is pretty good for the portables & emac but there needs to be a line of consumer towers based on a single g5 and perhaps the 1.6 motherboard, make all pro towers duallies, make a consumer machine that is half the size or smaller then the towers. the g4 is fine for portables but why did apple come up with the g5? because g4 towers was getting smoked!and they were allready using 2 overclocked g4's! dont fool yourselves
 
Here's the secret to understanding WHERE this rumor comes from. They get reports at the Apple Retail stores, telling them what shipments to expect. The 20" iMacs hit the stores Monday morning and were revealed to some of the staff later that day.

NOTHING definitive showed up on the rumor sites until (we can guess) an Apple Retail employee (manager level?) gained knowledge of the new hardware... then leaked it.

But what of this missing $749 device? This is what has shown up on the shipping reports, but only as a price and product number. As soon as it hits the stores, AND the box is opened, then we'll hear all about it here and elsewhere.

It's unfortunate for Apple, but they're leaking at their weakest point... the retail area. No one in Cupertino, who has worked long and hard on some new piece of hardware or software, would dare expose it until the time is right.
 
The cube failed because of its price

Originally posted by pkradd
There's not going to be a cube. It was a failure, both techinically and sales wise. People didn't like it (except Mac fans). You don't go backwards, you go forwards. There is already an "entry level" computer from Apple, it's called an eMac. $749 is a guess.... a rumor. As this site has said, there's no specific information. Every time Apple comes out with some new product there are always rumors of "something else" that never happen. Remember the "tablet"? All the descriptions about size (7 X 9), pricing, etc.? Where art thou?
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A consumer device has to be sold at a consumer price level.
 
Originally posted by Stike
Yes. Look at my statement again. Considering all those vague clues and rumors about that product, and the VERY small chance of another low-end Mac coming out, I can´t think of anything useful at the moment with that price point. So I made an impossible guess, just to say:

I don´t have the slightest idea!
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HAHA...

hey, WAIT! ;) :p
 
The eMac sells well to schools and folks that can not afford a iMac.

Lets take the eMac for instance and kill the CRT. I think the top eMac could sell for $750 easily without the CRT.

Also has anyone thought it could be some sortof highend software?? or maybe some hardware component for FCP??
 
As much as I'd like to see a headless Mac, I don't think I'd buy one with a G4. Sure it's fine for lite users but the G5 is so much more advanced and I prefer to buy newer tech, not older. I think potential switchers would be more impressed if the G5 was an option.

OTOH, I would love for Apple to add a headless Mac to their product line. I suppose they could offer a G4 version now and a G5 version next summer.
 
For my opinion, I think it's new Cinemal Displays, but here's what I say I think should come out...

A cheap no monitor. Make it small, put in those old 1.4ghz G4s in, make it expandable, and allow for people to use their current monitors on it. Normal people don't throw away CRTs, it's from the old days of when CRTs cost a butt load.
 
Hmmm....

If $749 is truly the price point, and there truly is a product that will come with that price point. I wonder how long we will have to wait to find out what it is. As said in the article no time frame has been noted.

:cool:
 
I don't know if Apple would market a headless G4 at that price point. It could hurt iMac sales. I know I would rather buy a separate G4 Cube "or whatever" and 20" LCD for about $2048. Then I could keep the monitor when it's time to upgrade to the G5. These LCD's are becoming quite then investment. If you are going to lure PC users then don't forget how they've been programmed to think......upgradability!
 
It would have to be done right

Here's my take:
Apple Edu has emacs at $749 now .
But I do think there could be a market for a headless mac, at the right price. A lot of PC users would be interested in something to replace their PC boxes/towers and be able to keep their monitors. So, a "Cube" or something with broad support for different types of monitors and some room for expansion.

Plus, Every single person I show Panther to is AMAZED! It would be great for Apple to have something cheap so people can use Panther. But $749 isn't cheap enough if you ask me, unless it's more powerful than the eMac. Actually, I'd like to see a headless mac with decent power (1.25 G4 or something) that includes a Superdrive. I'd buy that for $749.

my $.02
 
I say next week. It will either come out at the MacExpo in London or at the in store event..but it will happen before the end of the month..to get it into the holiday sales. Because I doubt they would release anything else in Dec because it would then just be better to wait for US MacExpo or the CES show to make a debut.
 
An Apple event for a monitor? please

Apple would not waste marketing dollars and "hype clout" over releasing a new case for an LCD - even if it were somthing fancy like a new aspect ratio or daisychainable multi-head, etc.

Plus that has nothing to do with MUSIC which is what the in-store Apple event on the 28th is about!

So, my conjecture is that it is some sort of "jukebox" music server device for the home:
* standard AC plug for continuous power
* wifi/either connections to home network
* RCA/fiber preamp to home theater systems
* perhaps direct speaker connections for standalone tunes (think dorm room)
* larger capacity HDs avaialable for fewer dollars b/c size/weight is less of an issue
* new iTunes to allow this device to manage all music and select a subset of music to sync to other mobile devices (iPod, PowerBook, etc)

I'd shell out $750 in a heartbeat for that - maybe even more.
 
Originally posted by pilotgi
As much as I'd like to see a headless Mac, I don't think I'd buy one with a G4. Sure it's fine for lite users but the G5 is so much more advanced and I prefer to buy newer tech, not older. I think potential switchers would be more impressed if the G5 was an option.
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That is a good point. A headless Mac at the same price point as an Edu priced eMac, but that was a G5 would be really nice. It would make decisions harder, but it would be a way to get a G5 cheaper. I don't know though... $749 for a G5? Probably not. Not yet at least... :rolleyes:
 
Take the top end eMac which already includes a superdrive and make it headless and with the cost savings from removing the CRT then they can add in a 1.25 G4 processor atleast and maybe more ram.

The eMac line needs more power and needs to stay cheap.

$749 is for the lowend eMac with edu discount..think if consumer price dropped to $749 then that would mean edu price would be around $699 bucks...and the top end would be way under the 1 grand mark.
 
The Apple event and this alleged device are not necessarily related to one another.

I hope that we continue to see new prices / devices and more between now and Thanksgiving b/c I highly doubt that we'll see anything after until mid-January.
 
I doubt we will see a G5 iMac or eMac until end of next yr if not until 2005.

But I bet we will see a 64bit OS soon after the G5 PB line is released.
 
Originally posted by pilotgi


OTOH, I would love for Apple to add a headless Mac to their product line. I suppose they could offer a G4 version now and a G5 version next summer.
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Alright, I give up. I have to ask: What's a headless Mac and what's so special about it?
 
Screen...

Probably some new screen, judging by the price a mid-size one.

I doubt it's going to be a computer, if you want a good entry level get an eMac. It's sub-$1000, and comes with a monitor!

Maybe some new media device, maybe like a "media center" for your TV. Watch movies, see pictures, and listen to iTunes on your Mac from your home entertainment center using your remote. :)
 
The real question is...

If this device is a cube, I doubt that it would be G5. At that price it would stop iMac and eMac sales.

A G4 cube, at the price it should have been the first time, would complement the other lines.

Plastic or metal?
 
I doubt it be a media center because just how Jobs talked about not liking media computers at all..but you never know.
 
Re: The real question is...

Originally posted by Sol
If this device is a cube, I doubt that it would be G5. At that price it would stop iMac and eMac sales.

A G4 cube, at the price it should have been the first time, would complement the other lines.

Plastic or metal?
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Both!
 
A switcher's dream device...

A "G4 cube"-like device with a built-in KVM switch to place next to my PC, and share a common keyboard, mouse and display, would get my money without hesitation. At $749, I would even accept a 1GHz G4 with a Radeon 9200.

For me, the eMac isn't an option because of its screen, not because of its processor. I imagine there are more than a few switchers-in-waiting who feel the same.
 
Originally posted by Squire
I hope you're right but my money is on a 17" widescreen display. The normal 17" LCD is $699 so $749 is about right. I know that Samsung makes a 17" widescreen monitor. I bet that's it. (After all, the current model looks a little out of place next to the others.) I'm afraid that this is going to be another case of the Mac fans getting worked up over nothing.

Let's hope I'm wrong.

Squire
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It would be a Gobi G3 if that happened, prolly at 1.1GHz
 
Re: A switcher's dream device...

Originally posted by micvog
A "G4 cube"-like device with a built-in KVM switch to place next to my PC, and share a common keyboard, mouse and display, would get my money without hesitation. At $749, I would even accept a 1GHz G4 with a Radeon 9200.

For me, the eMac isn't an option because of its screen, not because of its processor. I imagine there are more than a few switchers-in-waiting who feel the same.
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Like me. I actually hope that Apple makes headless low-end eMac for $500. I'd buy a machine for my wife then. today, the eMac is just pointless for my needs. What do i do with my current screen?
 
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