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Of course it's progress. Eliminating up the (pesky foreign metric) 3.5 mm jack will free up space to store a proper 1/8 inch stylus.
 
Since I am entirely too lazy to read 400+ comments. Did anyone say how the heck you can charge your phone and listen to music via wired headphones at the same time? Did anyone address how to charge your phone and connect to a car's aux connection at the same time?
 
When have apple ever provided a free adapter for anything?

When I purchased my iBook in 2005 it came with free A/V adapters I believe. Basically allowed my iBook to plug into external displays.

Of course, that was a LONG time ago.

Edit: I confirmed that Apple used to include a VGA video adapter to plug into an external monitor.
 
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Well, I have a bunch of EarPods that will die because of this. But if it is an improvement (is it?) I am okay. I just wish they would consolidate to usbc. It would be great to have one standard across all devices. (I know, not going to happen, but one can dream)
 
I've played the Adapter game for long enough on Macbooks, if the iphone jack goes, my iphone 6S will last me a few years, and will look elsewhere. Not using an adapter for all the headphones I have. Move to increase profits.

In those few years, most other flagship's will remove the jack as well :p
 
While it wouldn't directly affect me much as I rarely use the 3.5mm jack, I think enough people do use it that it would turn them off of the iPhone and therefore reduce sales (and stock price) which would affect me!
 
Consider this: if apple screws up the BT driver after an iOS upgrade, in the phone like they did in El Cap (BT audio range dropped from 30 ft to ~10ft since El Cap install, and needs to be restarted daily in order to work properly, people will be really pissed.

And with handoff enabled and other services enabled on the phone, there is a good chance BT audio won't work properly.

Not to mention those card readers (square) etc will need new adapters at the customers expense.
 
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Since I am entirely too lazy to read 400+ comments. Did anyone say how the heck you can charge your phone and listen to music via wired headphones at the same time? Did anyone address how to charge your phone and connect to a car's aux connection at the same time?

I don't know about wired headphones, but my car has a USB port in it. Connect my phone and it both powers the phone and connects to the audio system. Best of both worlds!
 
Since I am entirely too lazy to read 400+ comments. Did anyone say how the heck you can charge your phone and listen to music via wired headphones at the same time? Did anyone address how to charge your phone and connect to a car's aux connection at the same time?
I suppose you'll able to do those things with a 79.99 super duper gold adapter
 
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Something also to consider is that I, for one, use my headphones on more than one device. If an adapter is needed, that means I have to keep track of the adapter and/or keep it plugged into the phone (?!) the whole time. Because my other devices aren't going to need the adapter attached.

Can't say I'm a fan of this rumor.
 
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I rather replace the iPhone. Wireless headphones sound terrible, and I can barely grasp the paper-thin iPhone 6 as-is.

Your move, Tim.

I just started using jaybird x2's. They are quite nice in sound quality. You gotta spend, but there are good wireless headphones out there.
 
Looks like I won't be buying the next iPhone.

I just got a 6S so I'll be skipping to the 7S (Refined 7 basically), but I use an Oppo HA-2 DAC already. I wonder if itll still work with the new iphone. It uses the current lightning port for audio.
 
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Since I am entirely too lazy to read 400+ comments. Did anyone say how the heck you can charge your phone and listen to music via wired headphones at the same time? Did anyone address how to charge your phone and connect to a car's aux connection at the same time?

You are too lazy, it's been addressed by the new standard for lightning; now, next time be less lazy.
 
Just another calculated opportunity by Apple to push its overpriced and inferior sounding Beats wireless headsets!

Just another opportunity to say something false. You took it took without hesitation too!
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I just got a 6S so I'll be skipping to the 7S (Refined 7 basically), but I use an Oppo HA-2 DAC already. I wonder if itll still work with the new iphone. It uses the current lightning port for audio.

I'm don't see why not. That's probably how Apple would do it anyway.
 



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Six weeks ago, Japanese website Mac Otakara reported that Apple is planning to remove the 3.5mm headphone jack on the iPhone 7 in favor of an all-in-one Lightning connector for both connectivity and audio output.

Adding fuel to the rumor, Chinese websites Anzhuo.cn [Google Translate] and Wei Feng [Google Translate] cite supply chain news from unnamed sources that reportedly confirm the controversial rumor is true.

Both websites claim the iPhone 7 will not have a headphone jack, and that Apple will release its own wireless Bluetooth headphones, but the unverified reports should be treated with caution until or unless additional sources verify these claims -- nevertheless, they do make for interesting discussion.

Mac Otakara's original report said Apple may release Lightning-equipped EarPods, and the company already offers Powerbeats 2, Solo2 and Studio wireless headphones through its Beats brand. Apple also introduced new MFi Program specifications in June 2014 that allow third-party manufacturers to create Lightning-equipped headphones, including the Philips Fidelio M2L and Fidelio NC1L.

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Philips M2L are Apple-approved Lightning-equipped headphones

The original report, which cited a "reliable source," also claimed the new same-sized Lightning connector will have a DAC, or digital-to-audio converter, for backwards compatibility with wired headphones using standard 3.5mm stereo jacks. A 3.5mm to Lightning adapter would be required.

The rumor has led to speculation that Apple could introduce wireless charging on the iPhone 7, as users would be unable to charge the smartphone and use Lightning-equipped headphones at once. On the contrary, there is always the real possibility this rumor is false and that Apple has no plans to ditch the headphone jack.
Should this rumor prove to be true, however, the decision will likely be as controversial as Apple's move to the Lightning connector over its legacy 30-pin dock connector. MacRumors ran a Twitter poll that showed 59% of 7,542 respondents preferred the 3.5mm headphone jack over an all-in-one Lightning connector.

Read more: Apple May Replace 3.5mm Headphone Jack on iPhone 7 With All-in-One Lightning Connector

Article Link: Supply Chain Rumors Reaffirm iPhone 7 Will Not Have Headphone Jack
I thought
 
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Your post makes no sense. You say Apple is doing this to increase profits yet you also say the 6S will be your last iPhone. How does Apple increase profits if people stop buying iPhones?

cause I have spent a lot of money on headphones . The average user has not .

I don't see the connection between people who live in the audiophile world changing phones phones based on the jack, and Apple making profit. We are a minority. A new connector = profit, from liscence and adapters ...

Apple stopped caring about professionals and niche segments a long time ago, current products are aimed at the masses.

And Bluetooth audio sucks. Bought a B&O H8 hoping I could transition to wireless, big difference wired . So anyone saying wireless
 
Sorry, but the head phone adapter IS being lost to Bluetooth. It is a standard option in almost all cars now and Bluetooth headphones are becoming more and more popular.

Being a standard option does not mean it works well. My car has sensors to tell me if people are driving to fast as I back up. It works great as long as I am backing up out of car wash. Bluetooth is "fine" for music, but still sounds like garbage for phone calls.

The vast majority of people listening to music on their phones are listening to compressed audio or streaming online.

Again, music isn't the issue. Many people use their headphones to have phone conversations.

Just because Bluetooth isn't up to your standards
(Yeah, I'm the only one frustrated.)
doesn't mean there aren't other valid reasons to eliminate older tech for newer ones. There are a lot of rumors that the iPhone 7 will be waterproof and this may be another reason to take steps.

So your opinion is that it is ok to make the device less functional and have a reduced user experience in order to provide a single feature that may or may not work well.

My whole point is that people are very narrow minded in general when it comes to change.

Considering the number of people who want a new 4" iPhone, it might be worth considering that change isn't always a good thing.
 
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USB-C wasn't around in 2012 when Apple released the Lightning port. Eventually Apple will adopt USB-C for the iPhone, but you can bet that when they do, people with Lightning accessories will complain. Heck, people still complain about the MacBook, though lots more USB-C accessories are coming out this year.

It's time for wireless headphones to improve and become mainstream. For the past 18 years or so, Apple has had the legitimacy to force the market to move by dropping support for aging legacy technology.

Great, but they could and should still have standardised. They should give us a USBC port with USBC to Lightning and/or USBC to headphone adaptor.
 
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