Audiophiles don't listen to music on iOS devices. If they want to, they still can use the Lightning connector, which delivers better quality potentially.
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Supply Chain Rumors Reaffirm iPhone 7 Will Not Have Headphone Jack
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APPLE ALREADY SAID WIRELESS IS THE FUTURE !
Even in the event they shown wireless beats, wireless connectivity through your iphone hotspot for your mac etc
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Even in the event they shown wireless beats, wireless connectivity through your iphone hotspot for your mac etc
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Amen to that, even my solo 2 beats wireless sound very good
Everyone assumes it's in the name of thinness...what if it is in order to fit a larger battery and also to ensure the phone is waterproof? How many will complain then?
If they add industry-standard wireless charging, I'd be okay with it as described (an inexpensive Lightning-to-headphone adapter being available.)
If they go for their own standard, I'll be annoyed. It would be nice to use the same charger for a mobile Apple product as for my non-Apple products for once. Personally, I'd like to see Apple adopt Qi charging, along with building Qi charging in to the base of the iMac and Apple displays; plus the top of the Mac Mini.
I use Bluetooth headphones most of the time, so the loss of the jack isn't a big deal.
If they go for their own standard, I'll be annoyed. It would be nice to use the same charger for a mobile Apple product as for my non-Apple products for once. Personally, I'd like to see Apple adopt Qi charging, along with building Qi charging in to the base of the iMac and Apple displays; plus the top of the Mac Mini.
I use Bluetooth headphones most of the time, so the loss of the jack isn't a big deal.
If the iPhone 7 is thicker than the iPod Touch 5 & 6 then we can assume it wasn't done for thinness, since the iPod is thinner and also has a headphone jack.
My bet is its to free up internal space. Those headphone jacks are big on the inside.
Heh
anything to make it cheaper to produce
...& charge the same amount for it.
anything to make it cheaper to produce
...& charge the same amount for it.
While it could result in better sound there are no guarantees that it will. The sound quality from the headphones will be dependant on the quality of the DAC that is used. Cheaper headphones will probably end up sounding even worse because the manufacturers will also have to absorb the cost of Apple's MFI licensing so they will be looking to use the cheapest DAC chip available and will have to cut other manufacturing costs if they are aiming to meet the same price points as existing products.
I've no problem with new and better interfaces but I don't like proprietary sockets which end up increasing consumer costs and will not available to the competition. The headphone connection should use an open standard and not be fragmented and controlled by a dominant market force like Apple.
I understand the value in theory, but I just can't imagine any graceful, user-friendly execution of this. It's a proprietary connection type, so it's not like it's going to be the de facto industry standard at some point down the line (a la the optical drive phase out comparison). And it wouldn't be a 1:1 replacement of an existing standard (a la changing the 30-pin to lightning), since it would have to perform multiple functions. This creates a number of problems.
To use any existing wired headphone purchased since time immemorial, you will need an adapter. This will most likely be purchased separately, will not be inexpensive, and will be very easy to lose. Every time you unplug or switch the headphones to another device, you'll have to store the adapter somewhere it won't get lost or leave it connected awkwardly to the phone or to the headphones. This creates a pretty clunky user experience. And unless there is some sort of daisy chaining functionality, listening while plugged in will no longer be an option on any wired headphones.
That said, I could imagine Apple including a pair of newly-designed earbuds that have a lightning port, allowing them to be connected wired or wirelessly, and to be charged by the phone. That would be a rather elegant use of the technology, and could make wireless headphones a lot more convenient by eliminating the need to charge. But unless they open the standard and make lightning non-proprietary, I don't see how it can create anything but headaches for every existing and future non-apple audio accessory.
To use any existing wired headphone purchased since time immemorial, you will need an adapter. This will most likely be purchased separately, will not be inexpensive, and will be very easy to lose. Every time you unplug or switch the headphones to another device, you'll have to store the adapter somewhere it won't get lost or leave it connected awkwardly to the phone or to the headphones. This creates a pretty clunky user experience. And unless there is some sort of daisy chaining functionality, listening while plugged in will no longer be an option on any wired headphones.
That said, I could imagine Apple including a pair of newly-designed earbuds that have a lightning port, allowing them to be connected wired or wirelessly, and to be charged by the phone. That would be a rather elegant use of the technology, and could make wireless headphones a lot more convenient by eliminating the need to charge. But unless they open the standard and make lightning non-proprietary, I don't see how it can create anything but headaches for every existing and future non-apple audio accessory.
You seriously think this move is to save the couple of cents needed for a headphone jack? FML.
Bet you $50 they internally replace it with something more expensive.
You have no proof of their intentions with the 6+ charger. It could be possible that rapid charging using a larger charger causes more wear on the battery. Not enough to make them disable it as a possibility, but enough to warrant shipping a slower charger with the phone.
I have a 6+. I charge it with the "slow" charger every night... but I do carry a fast charger with me in my bag. I figure that I should use Apple's suggestion for charger most of the time, but sometimes I need a fast charge, battery be damned!
Unless you've hacked into Tim's email and have solid proof that they supplied the lower current charger because of economical reasons... all you have is conjecture. There could be a million reasons why they did it.
Anyway, with headphones... We'll just have to wait and see. If they really do remove the 3.5mm jack I can't see redesigned EarPods that use Lightning (and thus have a complicated connector and DAC) being cheaper than just using BT...
Considering that the iPod Touch is 6.1mm and can still have a 3.5mm jack, I find hard to believe that removing the 3.5mm jack from the iPhone 7 has to do with making it thinner. Granted, that may be a side effect but I don't think it's the primary reason. If I were to venture a guess, it would be to make the iPhone 7 waterproof.
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Won't have to. Just buy an adaptor. Done.
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If the iPhone 7 loses the 3.5mm jack, make no mistake that Apple will include Apple Lightning Earbuds in the box.
100% true, apple is already rumoured to build a lightning headphones for the box
And the headphones manufactures will be obligate to do better wireless and lightning headphones
I love a world without wires. I would love if my iMac will not have even the power cable
Acquires a headphone company, omits headphone jack from latest iPhone
That headphone company has produced lucrative Bluetooth headphones for a long time that will work perfectly well with the new phone
I do hope you understand that in order for you to hear Audio files, the signal needs to be converted from a Digital into a Analog one. So, ' with the last analog thing gone' it means that you just do the conversion from digital to analog outside the phone - probably a dongle, powered by your all digital iPhone.
Oh, should have said 'almost all digital'. Because inside your phone you still have a converter from Digital to Analog to power your internal speaker.
Previously one of the strong selling points for the iPhone was the reasonably well built in DAC, ensuring a good sound quality.
Ok, then. For good sound quality I won't need an iPhone anymore if the external DAC takes over the part.
But why do I worry?! Phil will come on stage during the iPhone presentation and create a massive smoke screen with a new Audio HD Format Bla Bla Brainwash and everyone is happy. At least the average soccer mom, soldered RAM iMac customer.
The Apple fanboys on this site are of course fine with it. But think about the general public, what will they do when they find out they can't use every set of headphones they've ever bought with their new phone? There was outrage when they changed the lightning connector, it'll be far worse if they do this.
I can't believe there's even one person who thinks it's ok to lose the headphone jack.
Don't you ever want to play music in your car?
Or a friend's car?
Or at a party on any random stereo?
Or at a club?
Or with your own headphones?
You seriously think you're going to keep an adapter dangling out of your phone all the time?
I love my iPhone, iPad, Macs etc. But this would put me over the edge. It woild be a sad sad day. But I need a phone that can interface with the rest of the world. And I'm not going to carry around a dongle to do it.
Don't you ever want to play music in your car?
Or a friend's car?
Or at a party on any random stereo?
Or at a club?
Or with your own headphones?
You seriously think you're going to keep an adapter dangling out of your phone all the time?
I love my iPhone, iPad, Macs etc. But this would put me over the edge. It woild be a sad sad day. But I need a phone that can interface with the rest of the world. And I'm not going to carry around a dongle to do it.
Ha Ha, you do sound like the perfect customer for the new iPhone then, Future Guy
iPhone 6s will be my last iPhone.
How the **** will I be able to charge my god***** phone while listening to music then? Rose-golden Tim is out of his mind.
How the **** will I be able to charge my god***** phone while listening to music then? Rose-golden Tim is out of his mind.
If this happens, I would hope that Shure will make a lightning cable; since most of their high-end earbuds have detachable cables.
Apple won't opt for wireless charging till it is as efficient or close to plug in charging. Most wirelss charging solutions are slow and cause excess heat....look to the Apple Watch 205 mAh and "only" takes roughly 2.5 hours to charge and gets quite warm in the process. iPhone 6s Plus has a 2750 mAh battery and takes 3ish hours to charge wired (sorry I don't have a real time as I'm usually sleeping). Even if Apple scaled up the watch charging tech and tripled the speed it would take forever to charge your phone, while cooking your battery and leading to short battery life
