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The Apple fanboys on this site are of course fine with it. But think about the general public, what will they do when they find out they can't use every set of headphones they've ever bought with their new phone? There was outrage when they changed the lightning connector, it'll be far worse if they do this.

They will go on using the Apple Supplied EarPods (that will most likely be Bluetooth or possibly have a Lightning connector) like they always have.

Anyone that doesn't like those is free to pick from any number of DOZENS of Bluetooth earbuds between $10-$20 on Amazon.

The average joe doesn't give much of a crap about "sound quality"... essentially anything will work. Those people won't be bothered by this in the slightest.
 
iPhone 6s will be my last iPhone then.
How the **** will I be able to charge my god***** phone while listening to music then? Rosegold Tim is out of his mind.
 
This is stupid as hell.

1. No one is going to buy headphones to exclusively use with an iPhone. Headphones with a lightning port (male) aren't compatible with the other 99.9% of the products in the universe.

2. No one is going to carry/want an ugly adapter sticking out of the phone 24/7 just to listen to music. Nor should we be forced to buy one so our old expensive headphones can be compatible with our phones.

3. If I do spend the excess money on these lightning headphones, they don't work with other devices so I'll have to buy a reverse adapter to use with them, which is yet another adapter. What if I want to use my new headphones with my Macbook Pro? Oh wait, need a 3.5mm to Lightning adapter, and if I want to use my old 3.5mm headphones, I need a lightning to 3.5mm adapter, and they'll probably be expensive as usual.

4. If it's solely to make the phone dinner, that's dumb. The iPhone is already thin, it doesn't need to be any thinner.

5. If it's to make it water proof, that's cool and all, but not enough of a wow factor to make me less angry, I've been fine keeping my electronics away from water.
 
Except Lightning is proprietary to Apple iOS devices.

So if you want to use headphones with your Mac, you would need to either carry an adaptor for your iPhone, or buy separate headphones for each device.

There's almost no benefit to the consumer in this. The iPod Touch is thinner than the iPhone 7 is rumored to be and still has a headphone jack.

Bluetooth works fine with your Mac and iPhone (And the new iPhone).
 
Apple won't opt for wireless charging till it is as efficient or close to plug in charging. Most wirelss charging solutions are slow and cause excess heat....look to the Apple Watch 205 mAh and "only" takes roughly 2.5 hours to charge and gets quite warm in the process. iPhone 6s Plus has a 2750 mAh battery and takes 3ish hours to charge wired (sorry I don't have a real time as I'm usually sleeping). Even if Apple scaled up the watch charging tech and tripled the speed it would take forever to charge your phone, while cooking your battery and leading to short battery life

My S6 would charger in under 3 hours with standard samsung wireless charger. That 2500 mAh battery, so it is already at the cable charging level.
 
The Apple fanboys on this site are of course fine with it. But think about the general public, what will they do when they find out they can't use every set of headphones they've ever bought with their new phone? There was outrage when they changed the lightning connector, it'll be far worse if they do this.

There's this thing called an adaptor they can buy to make their headphones work with the new iPhone. And if there was such huge outrage over the Lightning connector, as you mention, then iPhone sales would have tanked. Every iPhone model, with the possible exception of the 6S / 6S Plus, has had huge growth and record breaking sales. So obviously changing over to the Lightning connector didn't make a dent in sales.

Now granted, past actions are no guarantee of future actions but I'm willing to give Apple the benefit of the doubt.
 
I could see apple doing this but including an adapter with the phone because they know that everyone uses headphones with their phone. I'd be ok with it if it comes with the adapter and they're cheap to replace if lost
I personally would not be okay with some silly adaptor. Just one more thing to somehow get lost and no doubt an extra bulky piece protruding on the iPhone. I'm not sure why Apple feels the need to change the port. I would be okay for them add a lightning connector, but still keep the popular 3.5mm jack. This can't go well if they remove the 3.5mm jack entirely.
But to be honest, Apple is so cheap I highly doubt they would include an adaptor for headphones. It will for sure be for sale though.
 
Any audiophiles here...is there any benefit whatsoever to Lightning earbuds, like in terms of sound quality?
 
My S6 would charger in under 3 hours with standard samsung wireless charger. That 2500 mAh battery, so it is already at the cable charging level.

Then it is time, lets go apple!!!!...no port iPhone 7 then no physical buttons iPhone 8....iphone 9? Nural interface!
 
Nice.

So it's going to be:

iPhone on charge every night
iWatch on charge every night.
iEars! on charge every night.

what fun :)

Most people charge more than that every night already. List of things I charge every night:

iPad Pro
Apple Pencil
iPhone 6+
Apple Watch
15" Retina MacBook Pro
HP Calculator
Beats Studio Wireless
Cheap Bluetooth Earbuds
Mophie Battery Pack (usually just once a week)

Charging stuff every night is just a fact of life these days. This is also the reason I laughed when people said that a one day battery life on the Apple Warch would mean it's doomed... most people don't care and are already used to plugging everything else in every night...
 
Apple will remove it and you'll adapt. Simple. Not saying I agree with their decision, but I'll be just fine if they remove the 3.5mm jack.

99% of people fake outraged right now will purchase the jack-less iPhone. Fact.

Well, 100% of the headphone-jack-haters bought the earlier headphone-jack-infested iPhones.
 
HELL no. I would be PISSED. I only listen to music in my car through AUX cord so this would make me INSTANTLY switch from iPhone. The only way I wouldn't mind much is if they came out with a lightning to aux adaptor which would still be pretty annoying considering you can't charge at the same time. I don't see them making this mistake, though. If they did I think this would be 1 too many straws in the hat with bad design choices.
 
hopefully this brings the end of the "loose headphone jack" threads :rolleyes:
But it will add to the "Loose lightning port" threads.

This would be an incredibly narrow minded decision by Apple not to include headphone jack. Music app doesn't make me listen to music like once it used to. Slowly but surely, Apple is killing the Music Industry. We will have to carry an extra adapter to make our expensive Shures and Sennheisers to work again.

Good grief if all this is going to be true.
 
Ha Ha, you do sound like the perfect customer for the new iPhone then, Future Guy ;)
Yes i am, Apple always dictates the future
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iPhone 6s will be my last iPhone then.
How the **** will I be able to charge my god***** phone while listening to music then? Rosegold Tim is out of his mind.
so you listen to music and charging at the same time??? so you have 2 cables at once? wtf
 
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Any audiophiles here...is there any benefit whatsoever to Lightning earbuds, like in terms of sound quality?
It's just a digital output which is already there on the current range of Lightning equipped iPhones. All it means is the conversion from digital to analogue takes place outside the iPhone. The sound quality of the earbuds depends on the DAC built into the headphones (or adaptor) and how good the earbuds are.
A cheap crappy set of earbuds will sound like crap if you move the conversion outboard and could sound even worse if the external DAC chip isn't as good as the one currently built into the iPhone.
 
I understand the value in theory, but I just can't imagine any graceful, user-friendly execution of this. It's a proprietary connection type, so it's not like it's going to be the de facto industry standard at some point down the line (a la the optical drive phase out comparison). And it wouldn't be a 1:1 replacement of an existing standard (a la changing the 30-pin to lightning), since it would have to perform multiple functions. This creates a number of problems.

To use any existing wired headphone purchased since time immemorial, you will need an adapter. This will most likely be purchased separately, will not be inexpensive, and will be very easy to lose. Every time you unplug or switch the headphones to another device, you'll have to store the adapter somewhere it won't get lost or leave it connected awkwardly to the phone or to the headphones. This creates a pretty clunky user experience. And unless there is some sort of daisy chaining functionality, listening while plugged in will no longer be an option on any wired headphones.

That said, I could imagine Apple including a pair of newly-designed earbuds that have a lightning port, allowing them to be connected wired or wirelessly, and to be charged by the phone. That would be a rather elegant use of the technology, and could make wireless headphones a lot more convenient by eliminating the need to charge. But unless they open the standard and make lightning non-proprietary, I don't see how it can create anything but headaches for every existing and future non-apple audio accessory.
 
I've played the Adapter game for long enough on Macbooks, if the iphone jack goes, my iphone 6S will last me a few years, and will look elsewhere. Not using an adapter for all the headphones I have. Move to increase profits.
 
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