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That would be a little simpler. But I don't think they dropped the 5 for cost reasons at all. How much savings is there really between the aluminum housing and the steel reinforced polycarbonate with spray on hard coating and machine cut holes? $2?

Dropping the iPhone 5 was about product differentiation. So that consumers have another reason to buy the latest 5S model, because it looks different. This is the same reason the 5S has new colors gold and space gray.

I think this lesson was learned by Apple with the iPhone 4. I predict that in future releases the iPhone X lasts 1 year, and the iPhone Xs lasts two or three years.

I think some estimated the cost savings of $20 in manufacturing cost, or 10%. I'm no expert, but supposedly this ripples down the process (especially if you take in consideration the manual effort that goes in the 5/5s and the quality control measure around it) and saves Apple significant money.

I think that's also the reason the iPad mini 1st gen will go away come oct 22nd. i would be very surprised if Apple keep it on the line and discount it to $250 like some members predict here.
 
I want a phone small enough to keep in my pocket when seated. I don't want to be that loser who puts their phone on the table as soon as they sit down in the restaurant.

So nobody allowed to get a proper sized phone because you want to be a different kind of loser?
 
The only ones I believe are ipad mini res and that apple is making their LCD screens for the new desktop Mac a 4k screen and calling it retina. Maybe it might make its way into the iMac too. No way a tv though, still don't see apple wanting to enter that lions den of a market yet.
 
Different standards. If Apple suddenly released a phone of Samsung quality everyone would be like "woah what garbage is this". But people will buy the same quality from Samaung.

In Samsung's defence I think their hardware is not all that bad. Not as good as the iPhone but not bad. It's Android that is crippling the samsung phones. Android is just all bad.

I understand your point on the samsung hardware, but saying android is ALL bad. I have to disagree, i'm an apple fanboy thru and thru, but you have to give credit where credit is due. Android handles notifications miles better than iOS, and google now is in a catagory all its own. I use both on the daily basis btw, iOS is, and always will be my daily driver though
 
Lol what? Are these serious?

In my opinion, whilst possible, it's unlikely that Apple will add yet another resolution for developers to support with the iPhone 6. They could make a larger display with a 1704x960 resolution, which is a multiple of the iPhone 5's 568x320 base resolution. This would require only larger assets from developers.

Apple is also even more unlikely to change the resolution for the alleged 12.9 iPad. If they used 3072x2304 which is a multiple of the iPad's 1024x768 base resolution, which works out at 297 PPI, only larger assets would be needed for the transition.

I have little idea on the resolution for the Macs, but I would think that if they get Retina displays, that the resolution would double to 2880x1800 (or they would drop it down the work space down to 1280x800 and double it to 2560x1600.)
 
I need to use my phone with one hand. Anything bigger than 4 inches makes that impossible.

I'll stick with the current size, thanks very much.

Great. I hope they continue making a 4" phone to satisfy your needs. I also hope they make make a larger phone to meet additional people's needs.
 
Ah silly person...you just don't get it. You will..you will...

Everything you just said here could have been applied to the iPhone and it was. And Apple destroyed all those preconceived notions.

Apple disrupts. All your points are what you view a TV and it's experience in the here and now.

Steve Jobs disrupts. Steve Jobs is gone.

Try breaking into the food market as a computer designer. Or the house market.

The tv market is a different place.
 
The Surface RT is aiming at an existing market, and it is the same market segment as the iPad. The problem is that the product is not very good and that MS's marketing campaign was bad.
If you are aiming right, but do not hit what you are aiming at, than you are not aiming right. And its not a very good product, because it does not full-fill the needs the people who buy iPads have. So its not in the same market.
Now, I hope you are not implying that Phablets such as the Note have no purpose, because it seems there are several million people that seem to use them quite happily.
Using them as too big phones or too small tablets. Both iPhones and iPads each sell out Phablets by the numbers. They are stuck in the middle between two huge markets.
I have also not seen any evidence that the Galaxy Note for instance is a bad phone or a bad tablet.
For a mobile phone you need pocket-ability and the Note is too big for most pockets. For a tablet you need more space for menus and controls and a phablet just isn't big enough. You always either don't need that much space or need much more space.
From an economic standpoint there IS a market for phablets. The most fundamental definition of a market is "a group of people willing to acquire something". It doesn't have anything to do with needs, it has to do with the willingness to pay.
People buy anything if it is cheap. Thats how Netbooks became a thing. Cheap and rubbish laptops, just good enough to surf the Web. You can trick people to pay for anything, even land on the moon. But when they realize that the thing you are selling isn't useful for them, they will not come back as customers. Its a bubble unless there is a need to be full-filled with the thing.
And THAT'S the reason why Apple will probably at some point make a larger iPhone. It's because people are willing to pay for a larger iPhone and Apple would leave money on the table if they wouldn't produce one.
They are only leaving money on the table, if they are two distinct use cases, one that demands a bigger iPhone and one that demands a smaller iPhone. If there is only demand for a bigger iPhone, but not for a smaller one, than they just need to increase the screen size, as they did last year. What is a smaller screen good for? Nothing! Everyone wants a bigger screen as long as it does not sacrifice size and weight of the iPhone. So the iPhone 5 was a little taller, but also slimmer and lighter. Its an improvement on every front. But a phablet-sized screen would destroy the iPhones form factor.
They could have introduced an iPad mini from the get go, but decided not to do it. Possibly through a misunderstanding of the potential market. Others jumped in and Apple had to follow.
Or Apple dominated the market for $500+ tablets so massively that competitors had to avoid direct competition by fleeing in the $200 price area, where big expensive screens are not an option. Than Apple finally decided to conquer even this last niche of the market with iPad minis.
 
Lol and people thought the iPhone 4 screen was the perfect size but guess what?

You bought an iPhone 5

And guess you'll buy an iPhone 6 with a 6" screen

Dude, I was stating my opinion, and no-if there is a 6" phablet, I will not be getting one.
 
Yeah, these are the main reasons. ^^^^ 4.3" or 4.5" would be perfect. 4.7" is a little too big and 5.7" is just ridiculous.

I trust Apple to pick a good size!
I'm not disappointed by my 5S, but my last Droid phone being the Galaxy Nexus.. I must admit- the 4.7" curved screen was cool.
That.. & the notification light. Wish the rumors about TouchID having a light would've been true!!
 
how about new rMBP!?

How do you improve on Retina? There isn't going to be a 17"

Also unless you're Gene Munster then you already know there will be no Apple television set. There is no money to be made there. They'll make more money with the hockey pucks.
 
What is the difference in use-case between the 11" and 13" Macbook Air or the iPad and the iPad Mini? Do you really not see that your logic is flawed?
There are huge size and weight differences between these devices. As much as you can not hold an iPad with one hand comfortably for a longer period of time. The 11" Air is almost like a sub-notebook fitting in a woman's purse, while the 13" Air was pitched as having a full-sized keyboard and a big screen, like an MacBook Pro but lighter. How would you differentiate two sizes of iPhones? What is the smaller one good for, that you couldn't do with the bigger one and vice versa? Further more iOS and its apps are not designed for arbitrary scaling. You have iPhone apps and iPad apps and its Retina variants and that is pretty much what you have. How would you make use of the additional pixels on a bigger screen?
Only - your opinion is not canon. I don't think there's anymore to say on the subject. You're not the arbiter of what a phablet is good or bad at. Nor are any of you analogies or analysis of analogies applicable.
No ones opinion is. So what is your point? Where do you see the usefulness of Phablets? Why should Apple make one? I've never heard a good reason besides the others are doing it as well. Asus is doing a Padphone so maybe Apple should build an iPad with an iPhone inside. What is it good for? I don't know, but you can not not do it, if others are doing it.
 
wtf you on about

Just saying that you sound like a crotchety old person. If what Apple offers suits you, great. Why be snippy when people also ask for something else. I never understood this mentality, especially with typical Apple fans.
 
So nobody allowed to get a proper sized phone because you want to be a different kind of loser?
Its not proper sized if you can't keep it in the pocket or use it with one hand. All the talk about smartphones is always about being a different kind of loser. Why does one want to be an iPhone loser and still have size options like a Galaxy loser? Accept what size of loser you are and stick with the appropriate kind. :)
 
I said the mini was a bad idea then and I still think it's a bad idea. It sells well but it has lower margins then I would like.

Apple customers are satisfied and so is Tim Cook.

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But they didn't just conform to the industry. The iPad mini is 7.9" and 4x3, so it is actually much larger than the 7" 16x9 displays of Android. Of course, the same people who fault the iPhone for having a "much smaller" screen than the 4.7-5" Android phones seem to round the iPad mini's size down to the Nexus 7.

Many people here said that a smaller iPad was stupid and that Apple would never build one. The iPhone's screen is actually much smaller than the competition no matter how you look at it. Apple will make a larger iPhone at some point, probably next year. It will sell in record numbers.
 
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