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Not true. The pockets in my Levi's are significantly larger than the ones in the Levi's my wife wears. I can carry an average paperback novel in my front pocket, and still sit down. She can't.
So an iPhone that fits in your wives jeans, would also fit in your jeans? Than she is the benchmark for what fits in both of your pockets! The people with the smaller hands decide whats the right size for an unisex phone that is good enough for most of the people in the world. Dwarfs not included. If you have a phone that is too big for most woman's hands and pockets, you don't have a phone at all.
 
No argument about consumers. But there's no reason to limit "SKU" numbers artificially. If there's demand for a product and Apple can deliver (they wouldn't if they didn't think they could) - then that's pretty much the end of it.

The 5C seems to be doing pretty well despite many who claim "What's the point" or "Oh no - Plastic iPhones again" or some other silly comment.

The 5C is doing well. But not enough SKU's is bad. Also too many SKU's is bad. You need the right balance.
 
Ok you are not allowed by a phone bigger than 4 inches in your life. Ever.

I'm sure you're one of those folks who thought 3.5 inch was perfect too.

...Ever...

The comment of the year!

All of you who say "4 inch is perfect size phone" will buy the next iphone with bigger screen. That's a fact. So stop crying like baby.
 
You should definitley check out the moto x. That is hands down the best feeling phone on the market. Its not much bigger than the iPhone(form factor wise) but packs a 4.7" screen. I would love for Apple to do this. A slighty bigger form factor with a 4.7" screen. Man 2014 won't come soon enough:D

I did have a look at the video compare between an 5S and Moto X

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a4h9nbZGWE

http://www.androidauthority.com/iphone-5s-vs-moto-x-271218/
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yeah, form wise there is not much difference but screen it bigger, but I have a feeling it's too wide for me

but I notice the back of the moto X is somehow rounded, I don't know if it can be achieve by aluminium case?

The last 3 launch is September/October, so I'm guessing it will be sometimes in the fall 2014
 
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I did have a look at the video compare between an 5S and Moto X

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a4h9nbZGWE

yeah, form wise there is not much difference but screen it bigger, but I have a feeling it's too wide for me

The last 3 launch is September/October, so I'm guessing it will be sometimes in the fall 2014

Yea after watching the vid as well it may be a little wide but its great feeling in hand im sure they can keep somewhat the same form factor with a bigger display look at LG and their non-exsistent bezels lol
 
I am very confused about what people are looking for in a "larger iPhone." Because I am hearing two different desires that are at odds with one another.

1) I want more screen real-estate, that is to say, more stuff on the screen at once! That means changing (increasing) the resolution, along with the size of the LCD. This will lead to increased fragmentation in the iPhone line.

2) I'm old, my eyes are bad, I want things to be bigger on the screen! That means increasing the size, but keeping the resolution the same. This will not result in increased fragmentation in the iPhone line.

So, which is it? What should Apple do? I don't see how it's easily possible to please both groups at once, simply by offering a physically larger screen.

:confused:

I have heard from literally NOBODY that they want more crap on their already cluttered iScreens. I'm pretty sure those that want bigger screens want them so videos are larger & look better, photos are larger & look better, webpages are larger & look better, etc.
 
Forget about the developers! Who should Apple care the most, the consumers or the developers? Consumers have been demanding different sizes (one size does not fit all) for years, and Apple is finally catching up.

Lol - the fragmentation that will occur for developers if those displays come to fruition doesn't bear thinking about.
 
Explain please how your logic applies to the German invented custom of introducing intermediate car models. Are BMW, MB and Opel and VW doing it all wrong with their broad product portfolios?
First of all, yes many companies are wrong in offering too many unnecessary product choices. And second, VW became the most profitable car company in the world with its platform strategy, using many equal parts in a variety of differently branded cars. Think of this as colored iPhone under the hood they are all the same. And for different sized drivers there are adjustable steering wheel, just like you can adjust the text size in an iPhone, instead of building another car for slightly bigger drivers.
The sesame seeds make the whole Big Mac taste different. You should try it. I did. You don't get my point. The fact that even supposed universal products such as diet coke, the Big Mac and Milka Chocolate (I know the director responsible for the Milka chocolate product line) differ in taste proves that you are wrong in assuming that everyone is the same and should have the same needs.
All people like different tastes, but need the same proteins. You can buy a case to spice up your iPhone to your individual taste. But the core product stays the same. The beef is in the beef. A standardized patty in all kinds of burgers.
It is hardly an imaginary market when millions of galaxy notes have been sold.
There was supposed to be an Netbook market and then there wasn't. It vanished as if it was a mistake right from the beginning. Its only a market if it feeds a clearly defined need in customers lives. If you place a product right between two markets you risk it to be useful for neither. Thats what happened to the Microsoft Surface, its not a good laptop and not a good tablet. People are finding no use case for it. Phablets are likewise bad at being phones and bad at being tablets. There is absolutely no use case tailored to be best done with a Phablet. The Amphicar half boat and half car and no one bought one.
 
I have heard from literally NOBODY that they want more crap on their already cluttered iScreens. I'm pretty sure those that want bigger screens want them so videos are larger & look better, photos are larger & look better, webpages are larger & look better, etc.

For me it's about having more real estate. So it's the bigger videos, bigger pictures and icons/text being larger.

Of course I want this at a resolution which prevents seeing the pixels. Otherwise it's a step backwards.

Right now I've switched to a S4. My wife has an 5S. Nice phone - but I couldn't go back to the smaller screen. Just couldn't.
 
Only way I see iPhone screen getting bigger on traditional iPhone is if it goes edge to edge. But I doubt it will, though I'd be fine with this. I have no resignations about a bigger screen so much as a larger phone. If they can make the screen bigger without changing the size, I'd welcome it. It'll be interesting to see as more stuff leaks in the next few months. I think we'll know pretty quick, just as we did with iPhone 5.

Oddly, perhaps, but aside from the retina iPad mini, the rumor I think has the highest likelihood of coming true would be the 12.9" iPad. I think it'd be a hit with students and business customers.
 
Phablets are likewise bad at being phones and bad at being tablets. There is absolutely no use case tailored to be best done with a Phablet. The Amphicar half boat and half car and no one bought one.

Only - your opinion is not canon. I don't think there's anymore to say on the subject. You're not the arbiter of what a phablet is good or bad at. Nor are any of you analogies or analysis of analogies applicable.
 
I have heard from literally NOBODY that they want more crap on their already cluttered iScreens. I'm pretty sure those that want bigger screens want them so videos are larger & look better, photos are larger & look better, webpages are larger & look better, etc.

Yeah, these are the main reasons. ^^^^ 4.3" or 4.5" would be perfect. 4.7" is a little too big and 5.7" is just ridiculous.
 
First, I doubt a larger screen iPhone would be 5.7", this is way to big to be called a phone. This would be a new device with a different name.

If Apple does release a larger iPhone it would be under 5".

Second, while I do believe that Apple could also release a 5.7" phablet, I doubt very much that it would sport the 1920x1080 resolution purported in this report.

By some coincidence, 5.7" happens to be exactly half of the iPad mini display size, which would give this device a resolution of 1536x1024 at retina DPI. Keeping the same DPI would mean that devs wouldn't have to change touch target sizes and redo bitmaps and icons once again, they would simply use iOS 7 auto-layout APIs to make their app compatible.

The bonus would be that apps optimized for this 5.7" device could run as two apps side by side on a full size (or mini) iPad.

iPad Micro?
 
After playing with a Galaxy S4 for a few months (ditched it for a 5S as I prefer iOS, and have more $$$ invested in it) I'd be happy to see a 4.7" iPhone. 5.7 is going too far IMO. The 5" felt nice to hold, I wouldn't want anything bigger for one handed use. Going back to a 4" screen wasn't as much of a hassle as I thought it would be. Can't say I miss the bigger screen, but would welcome it if it was offered by apple in a phone.
 
Best rumour I've seen on here in years. Two iPhone sizes? Nuts!
And the iWatch/iTV mentions. Next year will be interesting, to say the least.
 
But a simple choice between 2 or 3 different sizes, to meet one's own needs, would be nice.

I need to use my phone with one hand. Anything bigger than 4 inches makes that impossible.

I'll stick with the current size, thanks very much.
 
There was supposed to be an Netbook market and then there wasn't. It vanished as if it was a mistake right from the beginning. Its only a market if it feeds a clearly defined need in customers lives. If you place a product right between two markets you risk it to be useful for neither. Thats what happened to the Microsoft Surface, its not a good laptop and not a good tablet. People are finding no use case for it. Phablets are likewise bad at being phones and bad at being tablets. There is absolutely no use case tailored to be best done with a Phablet.

Don't mean to attack, but your view on this is flawed from a business economics standpoint. There most definitely existed a netbook market, and a large one at that. There was a short period when you couldn't get on a plane without sitting next to a person watching a movie on one. At the time the product was right for a large group of users and it sold well. The market for netbooks very rapidly matured when lighter and more powerful ultrabooks emerged such as the MacBook Air. People realised that paying a bit more gave them more functionality, longevity and use. The advent of the tablet put the nail in the coffin for netbooks and killed that market.

The Surface RT is aiming at an existing market, and it is the same market segment as the iPad. The problem is that the product is not very good and that MS's marketing campaign was bad. Still the market exists but MS has been unable to address it properly. The same goes for the Surface Pro: market exists, bad strategic marketing...

Now, I hope you are not implying that Phablets such as the Note have no purpose, because it seems there are several million people that seem to use them quite happily. That it doesn't mean anything to you is an entirely different matter. I have also not seen any evidence that the Galaxy Note for instance is a bad phone or a bad tablet. It actually succeeds quite well at both things if we can believe The Verge and Gizmodo tests.

From an economic standpoint there IS a market for phablets. The most fundamental definition of a market is "a group of people willing to acquire something". It doesn't have anything to do with needs, it has to do with the willingness to pay. And THAT'S the reason why Apple will probably at some point make a larger iPhone. It's because people are willing to pay for a larger iPhone and Apple would leave money on the table if they wouldn't produce one.

There is enough evidence in Apple's history that they are indeed influenced by these factors. The best evidence being the iPad mini. Apple knew about the potential of a large product and smaller or less powerful versions of the same product from its iPod and MacBook (pro) lines. They could have introduced an iPad mini from the get go, but decided not to do it. Possibly through a misunderstanding of the potential market. Others jumped in and Apple had to follow. We then saw the mini introduced. It's definitely not the case that Apple needed the additional 2 years to invent how to produce a mini. The technology was there from the outset.

Apple listens to consumers, but does it smartly. It attempts to disrupt the market with new products such as the iPad, iPhone and hopefully new products. And it is effective in existing markets also. Looking at the market dynamics and then introducing a disruptive product into an existing market. Again the mini being a prime example. The market was proven to exist by smaller tablets from Samsung etc. Apple subsequently decided it would be profitable and took the market with a mini.

It will be interesting to see what happens to smart-watches. Depending on the success of the Pebble and the Gear, it would be possible that Apple follows the same pattern again: Let others establish the market by trial and error and subsequently disrupt it with a vastly superior product. You could actually view the smartphone and tablet markets in the same way. Interesting stuff.
 
I don't know why everyone wants a bigger phone... I like the iPhone 5S just the way it is...

Hey did you see my forum signature :eek: it's all Apple, except the HTC One...that is becouse I do so much on my smartphone and I can't take that small screen that Apple makes exclusive for you ...I want by next year to be able and erase HTC One from my forum signature and add iPhone 6 4.7 inch 1080p display.
 
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You said Apple introduced changed screen sizes from one option to one other. That is false. The 4s and 5 series coexist with different resolutions.
Coexisted, for a brief period of time called the transition. When the transition is over, you can choose between the 5s and 5c both with the same screen size.
You imply that apple determines what is right when it has introduced several products after long consumer pressure: iPad mini, 5C. In addition Apple has changed software features to reflect consumer wishes, such as the current control center in IOS 7. It is clear that Apple does listen to its consumers and it is wise that it does.
And than they do, what they think is right anyway. Apple changes things for what makes the product better in their own view only. Consumer wishes for NFC, SD-Card slots and Mini-USB ports have been ignored by Apple. They imagine a way how they think their products should be used and simply block out everything else. Even the most basic things like filesystem access. You can wish for that as much as you want. It will never gonna happen.
It is therefore highly likely that they will introduce a larger iphone at some point.
Like last year, when they did increase the screen size, just to kill the old screen size. Offering exactly the same number of different screen sizes as before. One, that is good for all.
Apple does not only look at things from a "what do we think is right" point of view, but also from an economical point of view. If Apple leaves money on the table by not introducing a larger iphone, than it will consider developing and selling one ASAP. It is their obligation to do so, as their shareholders will demand it.
Again, last year they decided they needed to go bigger. And they did go bigger. With the iPhone 6 they might again go for a bigger screen with a smaller bezel. But the new form factor will simply replace the old form factor, not offer more choices. They will only offer choices, when they feel that two different sizes would allow for two different use cases. Like one-handed iPad minis versus two-handed iPads. All phones are just used as phones. There is no need for two sizes.
 
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