Supply Chain Sources Feed Speculation on Apple's Display Plans for Future Devices

[Ryth]

If Apple truly is getting into the tv market they will have a hard time. The tv market is different in quite a few substantial ways from the computer market:

1. The buyers are (generally) different
2. This is a high volume low yield race to the bottom
3. Build quality actually hurts in some ways (More on that in a sec)

The reason they did well with the ipod, ipad and iphone was ease of use, build quality, and a new experience. All of that can be changed up on the computer world, while none of it really matters for tvs.

For starters, it's a tv. It sits there. It doesn't matter what the build quality is as long as it's thin and doesn't catch on fire.

In fact, bad build quality is helpful in a lot of ways, the cheap plastic they use helps make these things wall mountable. If you used aluminum in a 55" tv you wouldn't have much of a chance of wall mounting it.

For another, you can make smart tvs, but really, in the end it's a tv. The biggest changes are resolution, and picture quality. There's not much to work with.

I'm sure many fanboys will disagree, but if Apple goes into the tv business with $5000 55" tvs they will fail.

Ah silly person...you just don't get it. You will..you will...

Everything you just said here could have been applied to the iPhone and it was. And Apple destroyed all those preconceived notions.

Apple disrupts. All your points are what you view a TV and it's experience in the here and now.

 

[FrozenDarkness]

i don't see why apple needs to get into the tv market. they can do everything from an appletv device.

but the real travesty in this report is how they think apple is going to **** over every app with the resolution

 

[Mtmspa]

I want a phone that I can operate with one hand. The iPhone is perfect size for that.

 

[guzhogi]

[half sarcastically]

Apple should just jump passed the competition and put a 4K screen in everything. Or better yet, 8k

[/Sarcasm]

Seriously, There are so many people out there that buy on specs alone, with so many phones, computers, tablets, or other hardware markets Apple sells in, that are higher specced. Some Apple apologists have said that even with lower specs, Apple still outperforms its competition. I just think it would be nice to have Apple at the forefront of technology. A) It'll make the spec-hunters buy Apple products and B) think how much faster/better Apple products would be. The downside would be is if the technology doesn't really take off (as in Firewire, Thunderbolt, etc.).

Though it would be nice if Apple updated its products more often. Not necessarily big, humungo updates. Maybe just s speed bump upgrade. Like if Intel made slightly faster CPUs, Nvidia put out newer GPUs, etc.

 

[69650]

thats probably more where the ipad mini is supposed to fit in the product lineup.

Ipod Touch, Ipad Mini, Ipad.

I've got a Note II now, and the size easily killed my use of both my ipod touch and my Playbook 7" tablet.

its close enough in size to both, and covers the functionality of both equally well enough that I dont feel the need to use either of those anymore.

I dont think Apple wants to enter into that particular situation where they could potentially step on their existing products that are hot sellers.
(all my humble opinion of course)

Problem is the iPod is dying at the moment as sales have plummeted the past few years. They could either continue with the current models and try to make them cheaper or try to do something different. I could see a 5" iPod appealing to those people who would otherwise buy a PSP Vita or a DS. The smaller, more pocketable size would help to differentiate it from the 7.9" iPad, especially if they made it a range of bright colours like the iPhone 5c.

 

[Need]

I know plenty of people who switched from iPhone to Samsung or HTC for the bigger screens. I bet they would be just as happy to switch back for a 4.7" iPhone.

If iPhone 5 was 4.7", I would not have switched to the Galaxy Note II. Now that I have the Note II for a year, I don't think I would switch back to a 4.7" iPhone 6, but a 5.7" iPhone 6 would be very tempting! Apple would be smart to be come out with a 5.7" option since many of the Note II owners would be out of contract next year and Note II is the 3rd best selling Android phone after Galaxy S3 and S4.

 

[Gudi]

Set up a poll to see what people want on MacRumors. You are in the minority.

Yes, Yes. Everyone wants faster horses! But no one cares what the stupid majority wants. Apple is in the business of doing thinks the way they should be, not pleasing the uneducated masses.

The iPhone is now in its sixth year and Apple already changed the screen size last year, from only one option to only one option but another one. Get finally used to having no other choice or leave.

 

[decimortis]

Dude. I just got pounded with quotes for saying I like the size of the 5S screen. Chillax guys... it's just my opinion.

I don't think you would have had that many responses had you just stated you liked the size of the 5S screen. The fact that you couldn't understand why others didn't was the cause of all the quoting.

D.

 

[applelover1016]

Everyone has their own opinion, but i like the way it is or 0.3 inch more max. Bigger than that I don't know how comfortable it is with one hand

You should definitley check out the moto x. That is hands down the best feeling phone on the market. Its not much bigger than the iPhone(form factor wise) but packs a 4.7" screen. I would love for Apple to do this. A slighty bigger form factor with a 4.7" screen. Man 2014 won't come soon enough

 

[samcraig]

Meh, most of the people going on about "bigger phones" are just Android phones who wouldn't buy an iPhone even if it did have a bigger screen.

LOLOLOL


Source?

 

[KdParker]

iPhone 6, Q2 2014?

I hope not.....I don't have an upgrade ready for that.

 

[LordVic]

Problem is the iPod is dying at the moment as sales have plummeted the past few years. They could either continue with the current models and try to make them cheaper or try to do something different. I could see a 5" iPod appealing to those people who would otherwise buy a PSP Vita or a DS. The smaller, more pocketable size would help to differentiate it from the 7.9" iPad, especially if they made it a range of bright colours like the iPhone 5c.

The ipod is in a unique position right now. It is probably one of Apples first products to finally reach the "mature/decaying" part of it's lifespan.

The iPod saved Apple. it blew up the Mp3 player market and absolutely paved the way for the iphone and ipads and Apples incredible resurgance. But over tyhe years, the Ipod itself has sort of found itself replaced by its own "children".

Why buy an ipod touch anymore? for similar price you can get an iphone 5c. most adult buyers aren't really looking for different devices to solve different means. They're looking for 1 device for everything. it's a shame, I loved the ipod product line and had a few over the years.

 

[applelover1016]

+1 is this true and is it worth retuning my 5s and waiting for the 6

Take this rumor with a grain of salt. As we get closer to WWDC i'm sure we'll see ample amount of leaks and you can just sell your 5s.

 

[Ryth]

The ipod is in a unique position right now. It is probably one of Apples first products to finally reach the "mature/decaying" part of it's lifespan.

The iPod saved Apple. it blew up the Mp3 player market and absolutely paved the way for the iphone and ipads and Apples incredible resurgance. But over tyhe years, the Ipod itself has sort of found itself replaced by its own "children".

We'll be saying the same thing about the iPhone probably in 5 years or less. I'd say in 3 years that the iPhone/mobile phone starts to decline as we move into wearable tech.

Why buy an ipod touch anymore? for similar price you can get an iphone 5c. most adult buyers aren't really looking for different devices to solve different means. They're looking for 1 device for everything. it's a shame, I loved the ipod product line and had a few over the years.

An iPod Touch is $275 (What I got mine for online). A 5c off contract is $550.

They aren't similar in price. Similar doesn't mean what I think you think it means.

 

[rajador]

Why would you want Retina iMacs.

You know iMac have to use laptop grade GPU's already to avoid overheating due to the cramped case design. If you increase the resolution even more than the GPU's will struggle more than they do already

Because I can see every pixel using my imac 27" at 25cm distance. I want the awesomeness of the rMBP15" display on my 27" desktop computer. All the the rMBP have a little space cases and they do the job.

 

[LordVic]

We'll be saying the same thing about the iPhone probably in 5 years or less. I'd say in 3 years that the iPhone/mobile phone is a thing of the past as people move into wearable tech.



An iPod Touch is $275. A 5c off contract is $550.

They aren't close in price.

I understand, depending on market however, Purchasing on contract is a highly popular thing. its not a complete replacement. there's no such thing. But there's enough overlap there that it is a serious consideration, which could be part of the reason why the ipod sales are diminishing.

If you had an iphone already, you're likely not ever going to be in the market to get an ipod touch to go alongside it.

 

[javisan]

You should definitley check out the moto x. That is hands down the best feeling phone on the market. Its not much bigger than the iPhone(form factor wise) but packs a 4.7" screen. I would love for Apple to do this. A slighty bigger form factor with a 4.7" screen. Man 2014 won't come soon enough

Agree 100%!! Here is the pic for proof.

 

[KdParker]

No new rMBP? Screw Apple when they "believe" people should have the best performing Equipment.

chill....rmbp will be refreshed....not going anywhere.

 

[bigchrisfgb]

These are only possibilities of size, it doesn't mean both will happen and it doesn't mean either would happen.

I don't think I would leave iOS for Android, however I have used other people's phones, the S3 and HTC One and I would love a 4.7 screen.

I can't see how wanting a bigger screen (which is hardware) for the iPhone can deem you to be a fan of Android (which is Software).

 

[macUser2007]

It's a pain no matter what. On iOS and Android you would still need to consider how your app looks in different sizes. Most of the time Android looks like crap on most screen sizes other than the one where the developer used as a prototype. At least Apple puts thought into these issues.

Absolute BS and FUD.

I generally use the same apps in both Android (Lenovo K900, 1080p, 5.5", running a rather unusual Intel processor) and an iPhone 5, plus iPad v1 and iPad v4. Plus I still have an old 4.7" Google Nexus S.

Virtually all the apps look the same in Android, and most look pretty similar in both Android and iOS.

Why do you people keep making lame excuses for what are some real shortcomings in Apple's decisions?

 

[Mr Bigs]

I currently have an iPhone 5s and iPad mini. If they come out with a 5.7" iPhone next year, I might just dump the iPad altogether.

You say that now.

 

[peterdevries]

Yes, Yes. Everyone wants faster horses! But no one cares what the stupid majority wants. Apple is in the business of doing thinks the way they should be, not pleasing the uneducated masses.

The iPhone is now in its sixth year and Apple already changed the screen size last year, from only one option to only one option but another one. Get finally used to having no other choice or leave.

I hope that you are not implying that you are the smartest in the room with that pedantic tone, because your logic is flawed.

 

[Gudi]

Complete nonsense. Apple users are not some homogenous mass who are all the same. We need more Apple products to chose from not less.

No we don't. Humans are not that different. We all have two hands and ten fingers. There is nothing special about us. We are all wearing the same Levis 501 jeans globally. And all the pockets where an iPhone must fit are of the same size. Do the right size and than do it again and again and again ...

No one needs choice in phone sizes. Some may want it, but no one really needs it. And if you don't need it, its an unnecessary distraction that needs to be eliminated. Just like NFC and Adobe Flash. Less is more. Leave it out if its good for nothing. If the screen is too small, make it bigger for everyone. Otherwise keep it as it was last year.

 

[peterdevries]

Agree 100%!! Here is the pic for proof.

Is that a GMT Master II?

 

[singhjeet29]

Personally, I find it more amazing that some people don't know that Google is their friend....

From Wikipedia:

"Microsoft Windows has supported DPI aware programs since Windows Vista[4] and allows user specified DPI settings for the windowing interface.[5]
The Windows Presentation Foundation from Microsoft, and consequently, WPF applications, are also designed to be resolution-independent."

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but my understanding of resolution independence is that lets say you had a 720p screen and a 4K screen, that the UI elements would take up any %age of the screen and not a set X number of pixels, or at least be scalable in a vector sense. What happens in Windows (at least pre-8, don't have a W8 machine) is that something like the start bar at the bottom would take up the same number of pixels regardless of whether the screen only had 720 vertical pixels or 2000, resulting in (depending on the DPI of the screen) either something that is readable or something that is too small to read.

Apple's approach with the rMBP is to allow any element in a program to defined by representing either 1 pixel or 4 pixels (~2x) so that something like an image can be seen pixel perfect on a really high DPI screen, while other elements that need to be readable can be readable and not too small.

I don't think anything is truly resolution independent yet as it requires a completely different framework and completely vector UI elements. Usually there will be different UI elements activated in a program if it detects a screen has a resolution between A and B, and provide different one if it's between B and C and C and D and so on.

Edit: Grammar