Even worse yet many of them are forcing on their pets and many dogs and cats are dying because of it. Simply selfish and uneducated about different needs of living things.
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Supposedly Vegan person gets caught eating fish
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Even worse yet many of them are forcing on their pets and many dogs and cats are dying because of it. Simply selfish and uneducated about different needs of living things.
Then don’t eat or drink from a cow.
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Biblically fish is not meat.
That is what vegans aim to do, to avoid ingesting any product that is made from an animal's body.
Not a good quote nor argument. Even the flesh of a fruit or vegetable is sometimes referred to by the use of the word meat. The archaic definition of the word is food of any kind.
First let me say that I think that it is admirable that vegans or Buhdists wish to not harm other living things. I would never try to tell them that they should stop.
However, the fact is that living things must kill to survive. Bacteria are alive. Viruses are alive. Your very body kills living things that threaten your health, whether you want it to or not. When you drive a car, bugs are smashed on your grill or windshield. What about termites in a house? Do they deserve to live? What if you got an intestinal parasite?
Are cows more moral than than dogs because they eat grass or grain? The entire ecosystem of the world is built on consuming other living or once living things. Even plants are made up of the left overs of dead animals. Granted, they didn't kill them (though there are plenty of poisonous plants that do kill animals).
Now, I would say that there is a difference between my dog and bacteria, just like there is a difference between humans and chickens. But if your stance is that you should not kill any living thing, all I can say is "good luck with that." If vegans say "I just want to kill the least number of living things that I can," then good for them. But I see nothing immoral about killing to live. Cruelty is not good, but killing for food is just how the whole world works.
However, the fact is that living things must kill to survive. Bacteria are alive. Viruses are alive. Your very body kills living things that threaten your health, whether you want it to or not. When you drive a car, bugs are smashed on your grill or windshield. What about termites in a house? Do they deserve to live? What if you got an intestinal parasite?
Are cows more moral than than dogs because they eat grass or grain? The entire ecosystem of the world is built on consuming other living or once living things. Even plants are made up of the left overs of dead animals. Granted, they didn't kill them (though there are plenty of poisonous plants that do kill animals).
Now, I would say that there is a difference between my dog and bacteria, just like there is a difference between humans and chickens. But if your stance is that you should not kill any living thing, all I can say is "good luck with that." If vegans say "I just want to kill the least number of living things that I can," then good for them. But I see nothing immoral about killing to live. Cruelty is not good, but killing for food is just how the whole world works.
The reason we care is that it feeds into a lot of politics of our time.
Suppose I say that I want to ignore political phenomenon X because, IMHO, most of the people most loudly professing X are essentially signaling, they're engaged in a performance not in a reasoned analysis of society. Your response might be "no-one does that, that would be idiotic". And now we're at an impasse.
EXCEPT that stories like this show that some people DO do this...
Now a single story does not tell us how widespread this is. But it does tell us that simply dismissing my analysis as impossible, because "people don't act that way, obsessed with signaling to gain status, regardless of how they actually behave and what they believe" is no longer a feasible strategy; to change my mind you'll have to provide a better argument.
If you are a proper vegan, fish is considered a living thing that you don't eat.
Haters are gonna hate. If its not for you then just move on. Nothing to see here.
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The fact is that compassion and love for all living beings are higher, more refined sentiments than gross killing. The former is in the mode of goodness, piety, whilst the latter is in the mode of ignorance. Another consideration you could contemplate is karma. Every action generates an equal and opposite reaction. Kill and be killed. The animals that die because of you will in the future, maybe in a future lifetime even, kill you. Better to reduce our karmic stockpile in order to improve our situation, to protect us. Hypothetically, an animal that you kill or are responsible for killing could be reborn as a crazed youth who will cause a horrendous traffic accident that kills you, or it could assassinate you directly, rob your house and kill you, etc.
But this is all philosophy. The basic take-home is that a vegan diet is more healthy and promotes longevity, reduces sickness and disease. As eggs and meat, for instance, increase blood cholesterol which is the underlying factor of heart failure, make your choice. Looking forward to your heart-attack breakfast?
Well, for a guy looking to be non-judgmental, you are certainly judgmental..."If you wanna go to hell the door is open."
"...you are led by misinformation by so-called experts": I'm sorry, but so are most "nutrition experts" and other "diet" promoters--from paleo to keto, vegetarian to vegan. They're all heavy on belief and short on science.
When all the numbers are considered, a healthy lifestyle--a healthy weight, physical activity, lower or no alcohol and tobacco use--balances out any epidemiological health and longevity stats among omnivores and vegetarians.
We evolved as omnivores. There is nothing wrong with moderation no matter which "side" of the issue you're on. So, hypocrisy of the original woman aside, she's doing a perfectly acceptable thing by having fish once in a while.
I don't know.. those types of examples are antiquated. No different then saying, in certain countries men have always abused their wives so a healthy amount of abuse is perfectly acceptable. And in those countries, it is acceptable but that doesn't mean the rest of the world hasn't evolved. It's the same with food, people think we've always eaten meat so it's fine but it's not exactly fine. It won't hurt you as much as doing meth but it's not doing your body or our planet any favors.
I have nothing against people promoting a more radical and /or different way of living, but why on earth do some, if not most, have to make such a secret out of it when they divert from their set course. why can't they be open about it.
especially in this case. why can't she mention to her 3 million followers that she started suffering from health issues. I am sure a few of her 3 million followers do so too.
people like this piss me off!
especially in this case. why can't she mention to her 3 million followers that she started suffering from health issues. I am sure a few of her 3 million followers do so too.
people like this piss me off!
Its because on the whole this type of person is just riding the trendy bandwagon, catching the wave, profiting from it by Vlogging, etc. Perhaps they are enthusiastic to try something new and different at the beginning, but, as they later prove to have not be so deeply sincere in their adhesion to the cause, after so many months of promoting their dedication to so many millions of subscribers, followers and viewers of their Youtube videos, Instagram posts, Tweets and so forth, the truth comes to the surface and they personally realise that they aren't really so committed and slowly start to ingest animal products again. By now they are in deep with their audience and coming clean is not such an easy thing for them, without totally blowing their credibility and losing all their followers, Patreon patrons and so on. So they continue to pretend they are subscribing to veganism in public whilst in private they are not. Eventually they are revealed, as Rawvana was, and they have to admit things. Life is tough. Make your choice, but do it with intelligence, commitment and sincerity, not just enthusiastically, which isn't enough, as time will tell. As Freelee has often said, veganism is a lifestyle, NOT a diet. You do it for life, not just for a temporary period.
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Plants are also composed of cells which are living and not dead, tomatoes were once just that.
There are lots of people on social media pretending to be something that they are not. Some get exposed, some do not. It always comes as a let down to the followers but that's just naivety thinking what we see is the truth. It's not just with food, but other walks of life, people are only showing their best side on social media or the side of them that promotes their cause.