The fold has issues with bending, the Duo isn’t a foldable it has a hinge which should be more sturdy.
It will have a S-Pen type in that you can use the Surface slimpen.
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The fold has issues with bending, the Duo isn’t a foldable it has a hinge which should be more sturdy.
It will have a S-Pen type in that you can use the Surface slimpen.
My Fold has no issues and you have no idea what issues may or may not occur with a 1st gen device from MS
while that is true, the fold is more susceptible to issues because it folds. The fold doesn’t appeal to me, the Note 20 and the Duo do at the moment.
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Your just guessing and the Duo hinge is equally a weak link as is the cables between the screens etc especially as a 360 vs 180, a full spine of hinges/support vs 2 and so on ............
The Fold had issues with DAYS, even Samsung states that their foldable have around two hundred thousand folds. That doesn't appeal to me in the slightest. A hinge will be a lot more durable.
Time will tell if there are any issues with the Surface Duo, but the design is a lot more appealing than the Samsung Fold, at least to me.
To me the form factor seems a little too large (hard to use for phone calls) and the screen a little too short (those bezels...). It looks great but also very first gen.
Personally not into these super big phones, folding or not, may well just add LTE to this and be done with it 😆
Next one's I'll stick with a lager format smartphone for work, for home something small & competent...
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Next one's I'll stick with a lager format smartphone for work, for home something small & competent...
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By The way, I have been playing with an Android smartphone lately (I am still an iPhone user, but curious) and...it's a lot of fun! =)
Well it seems we are just catching up 
Just shows how far ahead of the game Imate and Win CE was at the time with App stores, large screens ,OS , stylus etc
13/15 years later and we are back to the same point
For those that followed HP and Imate and later early HTC devices the first Iphone and even early Samsung were nothing special, only the ill informed thought they were revolutionary after having simple flip phones from the Moto Razr era
Just shows how far ahead of the game Imate and Win CE was at the time with App stores, large screens ,OS , stylus etc
13/15 years later and we are back to the same point
For those that followed HP and Imate and later early HTC devices the first Iphone and even early Samsung were nothing special, only the ill informed thought they were revolutionary after having simple flip phones from the Moto Razr era
Just reset my Surface the other day, I had upgraded to Windows 20H1 but like to fresh install normally on feature updates. luckily my back and restore is streamlined at this point so it is an easy thing to do. I remembered one little trick that some might not know about and can make not only a Surface, but ANY touchscreen computer feel so much more responsive. Here it is and hope everyone had a safe and fun 4th of July!
Go to Control Panel - Hardware and sound - Pen and Touch. Now click touch in the top of the window and go to press and hold, and when that window pulls up, go to speed and pull the nob to short. Now when pressing and holding on the screen, the context menu comes up almost instantly. It makes the UI feel so much faster for me. Hope it helps!
Go to Control Panel - Hardware and sound - Pen and Touch. Now click touch in the top of the window and go to press and hold, and when that window pulls up, go to speed and pull the nob to short. Now when pressing and holding on the screen, the context menu comes up almost instantly. It makes the UI feel so much faster for me. Hope it helps!
I just updated my razer review thread, because I ran into issues with a preview build - so much so, I opted to go down to a lower version for the time being. Not to repeat what I had already posted, suffice to say that I'm happily on 1909 right now
On my older suface products, I was shocked at how slow the recovery process is. I think on surfaceBook, it was half a day, whereas on the Razer it probably under 10 minutes. I was expecting a long haul, and I wasn't timing it, but when I noticed the laptop was off, I hit the power button and it was done. By my estimate, about 10 minutes
My Thinkpad X1E was also rather slow in doing the recovery process as well, something like 40 minutes if memory serves me.
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That's bonkers, that it took half a day. All my Surfaces, except the RT took under 10 minutes like your razor. I believe you that it took that long but am boggled by why it did. I don't know how you restored it but the steps I took. I have a dedicated flash drive that contains the official surface recovery image from microsoft itself. Boot to advanced start up and click use usb drive which reboots to the recovery software from the usb and click reset and within 7 mins im at the OOBE and set it up. Now I have a clean windows install and since I have linked my home folder to my sd card through settings, all my personal stuff, media, pictures, docs, music, any games I have installed is just like it was so I dont have to worry about that and not having to do a backup right before restoring makes it so much easier. As for Applications i try to install windows store equivalents first if they are there, so thats no problem at all. All that's left is a few apps to download which i have bookmarked in edge so i can just go through them and steam client and battle.net client which i just have to set them look on my SD card for games already installed and no need to download. This all within 30 mins. If worse came to worse every week I do a full image backup just in case. That's why i am so confused on how anything can take have a day lol. Maybe you always clicked the option to rewrite over multiple times on the HD to make sure it was fully cleaned. I have done that once and it took about half a day..I just updated my razer review thread, because I ran into issues with a preview build - so much so, I opted to go down to a lower version for the time being. Not to repeat what I had already posted, suffice to say that I'm happily on 1909 right now
On my older suface products, I was shocked at how slow the recovery process is. I think on surfaceBook, it was half a day, whereas on the Razer it probably under 10 minutes. I was expecting a long haul, and I wasn't timing it, but when I noticed the laptop was off, I hit the power button and it was done. By my estimate, about 10 minutes
My Thinkpad X1E was also rather slow in doing the recovery process as well, something like 40 minutes if memory serves me.
Agreed, I was a bit beside myself as it just sat there spinning and working. It was showing progress, just moving very slowly.
Yep and my SB worked well for most tasks at the time. Its long been replaced, I think its sitting in a closet with Linux installed at this point
that by the way only took about 20 minutes or so to install
(if I remember correctly)
1909 all round, as believe latest W10 removes options to defer updates, poor move IMO by Microsoft, nor welcomed.
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"This one has 256GB storage, so it's the peasant version." I chuckled so hard I spilled my coffee. 😂 😂 😂
Wow!Well it seems we are just catching up
Just shows how far ahead of the game Imate and Win CE was at the time with App stores, large screens ,OS , stylus etc
13/15 years later and we are back to the same point
For those that followed HP and Imate and later early HTC devices the first Iphone and even early Samsung were nothing special, only the ill informed thought they were revolutionary after having simple flip phones from the Moto Razr era
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I had that i-mate back in the day.
It seemed so revolutionary .... but was a real pain in the butt.
Tbh, I hated win CE with passion and bought a Sony Ericsson P910. It was a decent device.
You made me nostalgic with this pics..
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They have changed the time allowed from one year to 35 days on the Home, Pro, and Education versions. This is to prevent some types of users from never updating. However for pro users and enterprise, Microsoft provides the documentation to use Policy editor for deferring updates.
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I did the same and went to the Sony Ericsson 900 then 910 which was great with that 5 way wheel and you could choose to keep or remove the little flip keyboard
Big devices were less of a problem in those days as many had cases that your belt slipped through and BT headsets were the rage
Thx I was aware that you can defer the updates via GPE, equally one shouldn't need to jump through hoops to do so. IMO the choice should be there for all versions of W10 with a clear warning of the repercussions in Settings. For now I'll keep my W10 systems on 1909 until I find a 3rd party tool that allows granular control of the updates.
Personally there's time that I want updates to be deferred and times I want them to commence. It's things like this that make me consider Linux ever more, as I expect to be in control with relative ease not the provider of the OS. As for W10 Home GPE can be enabled, equally you shouldn't need to do so...
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Well I do agree with you, but I have to admit that I do see how Microsoft is between a rock and a hard place trying to deal with clueless users who are unable and unwilling to learn to use the systems they depend on. And I could say that those who don't read and follow directions should perhaps deal with the consequences. But it doesn't really work out, Microsoft has to continue to find ways to deal with a wide range of users no matter how challenged, this is how they remain the dominate system. There are people who would never update anything unless forced, and then they are the first to scream and blame Microsoft when a security patch or needed update doesn't get installed and their system is compromised or broken. These are the type of People that buy a Chrome Book and then ask how come it doesn't run AAA games? For you however, Linux might be the way to go. Are you still running KDE Plasma?
I get it, equally I don't need it. I was never a supporter of the argument of two settings apps (Control Panel & W10 Setting) being an issue by the Mac crowd as it was oblivious that MS needed time to migrate numerous legacy controls to W10 settings.
Adding GPE into the mix is just needless IMO, after all Home & Pro should be differentiated or what exactly are we paying for? As someone who is technically competent I may as well look to Linux if I have to jump through too many hoops with MS Windows. Vast majority of W10 consumer purchases come with W10 Home, not W10 Pro and they have zero inclination to upgrade. It's not a big deal, equally it irritates and adds yet another nail in the coffin.
Next hardware cycle I'll be certainly looking to systems that can run Linux with full functionality as macrOS & W10 is simply getting old. I revisit KDE from time to time, need to really sit down and work on the apps to get done what needs to be done. That said if the HW/SW list completes W10 will be done as no need for MS or Apple for that matter...
W10 1909 stands, relinquishing choice is never a solution to a problem, only a form of control.
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