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I'm definitely liking the Surface Go, though I'm a bit hesitant to spend any money at this point. Nice balance of features, design, and price.
I wondered why I hadn’t seen any reviews for the Surface Book 3, I just realised after looking online that it isn’t out until June 5th 
I really should of read that part first.
I’ve checked out the specs and the price, for the money it’s not a bad looking device. 32GB Ram is good, where as Apple charge £400 just to upgrade from 16 to 32GB Ram on the MacBook Pro 16”
If I do go with the Surface Book 3, I’m still unsure which one to get, I think the 15” seems like more bang for the buck compared to the 13” version.
I really should of read that part first.I’ve checked out the specs and the price, for the money it’s not a bad looking device. 32GB Ram is good, where as Apple charge £400 just to upgrade from 16 to 32GB Ram on the MacBook Pro 16”
If I do go with the Surface Book 3, I’m still unsure which one to get, I think the 15” seems like more bang for the buck compared to the 13” version.
That is the one that is tempting me! Damn you Samsung... And I keep looking at their red Chrome Book. Two things I really don't need but well...This, is gorgeous...
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I was giving some serious thought to dropping my iPad and replacing with a surface Pro 7, but for long periods of typing I am just not sure the keyboard is great and of course, I can't get to a store anywhere to test it right now.
My reason is that since I have been back on Windows so much in recent weeks I have discovered that office for macOS/iPadOS just sucks compared to the Windows version.
My reason is that since I have been back on Windows so much in recent weeks I have discovered that office for macOS/iPadOS just sucks compared to the Windows version.
The typing experience is excellent, and I think you will be happy with it. Good enough key travel and the keys are easy on your fingers. It is really impressive what they Microsoft does with their keyboards and Apple new $300 plus keyboard price make the Surface $160 look like a bargain. I am really thinking about that Samsung. As an artist I like the EMR Wacom tech. Ntrig is good, but Wacom is better. The 15 inch has 12 gigs of Ram and the same lovely color. 12 not as good as 16 but better than 8. The Surface Book I am picking up has everything to include more power and I can install my big dog Painter 2020 on it. The Samsung would be a lighter machine for the smaller Painter Essentials and couch sketching. Yes I am trying to rationalize getting both... I do have a problem... No support group for tech addicts like me.
I have seen that Microsoft are giving 60 days in order to return the Book 3 for any reason if you are not happy. However that is on the US website, on the U.K website I can't find a single mention of this. Does anyone know if they do offer the same return window? it will be disappointing if not, why can't we get the same as the US.
From the UK store.
"16. Return Policy. This return policy is provided in addition to any legal guarantees or other statutory return rights that you may have under law (see Product Warranties section below). Subject to our return criteria, after purchasing an eligible product you may withdraw from the purchase contract and request a refund without giving a reason within thirty (30) calendar days. The withdrawal period will expire after thirty (30) calendar days from delivery."
To be sure, but 30 days is still a long time, and you should be able to determine if its a good fit in 30 days.
The cost difference between a 12" iPad pro with keyboard and stylus is about 1,700, a Surface Pro 7 with stylus and keyboard is about 1,400 (generic configurations for both). That's a 300 dollar difference - not sure if that helps or hurts the decision process.
The difference between the 11" iPad Pro and Surface go is more. That iPad pro is 1,300, and for the Surface Go (using the M3 processor) is about 760
As for usage, if you need desktop-like apps, then the Surface products will be a better tool. If you don't need a full blown desktop OS, or experience, and the apps in the iOS app store fit your need, stick with that.
A couple of random thoughts regarding the iPad.
First that keyboard while great adds a lot of weight, its almost as heavy as a MBA and its more expensive. Secondly, Apple has had issues with the iPad Pro bending, and white spots. I'm not sure if they've resolved either problem. My 10.5" iPad Pro has white spots. Given the usage (my kids), I'm rather concerned it will be bent in all truthfulness.
I didn’t see that. Maybe it’s not mentioned then but it’s in effect for the U.K as well.
See this is the thing, the more I use Windows the more I am reaching for my iPad and then going "oh, can't use that for x task". Starting to appreciate why the Ipad without an OS to match the desktop is lacking where PC + Surface has a far better like for like environment that just works on each as it should.
TBH outside of a specific IOS Application and mobile games Surface and other similar W10 2in1's are simply far more useful. IMO Apple follows it's diverged policy solely to force additional hardware/software sales, exactly the same as it does with it's mandatory in-house upgrades.
Job's statement at the time was simply down to Apple not being remotely in a position to bring Pen & Touch support to the Mac. Pen & Touch support is a great feature with smaller notebooks, even larger ones with well thought out design. Unfortunately Apple is has become far too focused on itself rather than customers needs, literally nickel & diming us at every opportunity with questionable quality at times...
Personally I wont entertain smaller class notebook's now without Pen & Touch, would simply be a retrograde step on many levels.
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Yes, I am more of a productivity person to include my desire to draw and paint on all my devices. I find the iPad to be the most frustrating of all my devices. Even Android is better. The file system on iPad simply drives me crazy. I can't draw in sketch in one app and then open it in another for painting as I can on everything else to include Linux, Windows, Android. I can't set up folders the way I want to be actually useful. OneDrive can make a folder available on the iPad, but then none of the apps can get to it! I get so frustrated... My iPad pro is just sitting most of the time.
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Yes, absolutely it really should just be a standard on all except the "cheapo" line. For Apple to charge as much as they do... Actually it is my theory that Apple simply lacks the capacity to get the job done. Remember that MacOS which is Unix was actually lifted from a project at Berkeley in Sans Francesco and modified for the Mac. Apple didn't actually create it's own system. My view is that they are hoping someone else will create a Unix for touch and pen, and they can use that as a new Mac upgrade. You would think that with all the money they have hired some coders to get the job done, but I think they were too obsessed with trolling for dollars, and now they are far behind. Just my own idea on the subject.
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I've said for a long time the best thing Apple sells is Apple itself to the masses. Focusing solely on the $$$$, hence why so many now rebuke the platform (Mac), with sheer greed being Apple's sole driving force.
Personally I'm out, business wise same, don't need Apple's endless excuses of why we cant or why you should excuse us. well and truly done with that. Don't know hardly any that use the platform professionally now, colour me surprised...
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Hey guys, just read this and found it interesting. It's not Surface related but Windows 10 related.
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The Apple MacBook Air 2020 is 30% brighter when you use Windows
During our tests with the new 2020 Apple MacBook Air, we noticed that the display is around 30% brighter when you use Windows. But how is that possible?
Hey guys, just read this and found it interesting. It's not Surface related but Windows 10 related.
The Apple MacBook Air 2020 is 30% brighter when you use Windows
During our tests with the new 2020 Apple MacBook Air, we noticed that the display is around 30% brighter when you use Windows. But how is that possible?
That's how Apple want's it to be. As ever, very little if anything benefits the user once subjected to a monopoly, other than forking over ever more $$$$. Apple is what it is, irrespective of what it claims to be.
Those that don't get it by now, likely never will. You can only expect to see/get less for a constantly increasing outlay with Apple...
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Interesting, but hardly surprising. If Apple could get away with it, they would not allow Windows on their machines at all. They have already cut the ability to install Linux in a easy, straightforward manner.Hey guys, just read this and found it interesting. It's not Surface related but Windows 10 related.
The Apple MacBook Air 2020 is 30% brighter when you use Windows
During our tests with the new 2020 Apple MacBook Air, we noticed that the display is around 30% brighter when you use Windows. But how is that possible?
I thought the "ARM" was just an extra, something like Microsoft is doing with Windows X. Do you think they will really go all in with ARM? That does not seem like a good idea. One of the selling points with Mac was that you could run Windows as well as MacOS. That was one of the requirement at my brother in law's architect firm. Revit the program of choice (not AutoCad) is what they used. Autodesk has made it clear that any users that had Mac had to bootcamp Windows.
Doubt few remotely care at this point I time. Apple's stance has been clear for years; locked in, single avenue for applications, mandatory in-house upgrades, inclusive of excessive margins. Apple wants total control to exploit it's customers to the absolute maximum, nothing more, nothing less..ARM will just be another factor to restrict the end user, with Apple likely looking to boost profits.
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I was going to wait for the GO 2 but it takes a few months to arrive here in KL
So I just ordered the One netbook 2020 8.4inch Mix 3 Pro Platinum 10th Gen i7 10520Y 4 cores 4.5Ghz 16GB ddr4 512GB PCIE 2.5K 2560x1600 ips touch screen display yoga 360 8600mah 9hours battery ( Free Bag) plus pen for $1080, video by unboxing his price is out of touch now.
Should get it in a couple of days, my only concern is screen size over the GO and the IR track sensor, else it's far more capable and flexible being a yoga style 360
As I already have the GO V1 I may still get the V2 but no KB as they are interchangeable and gift the GO V1 on
But that is 2 stunning devices for almost the same cost of one IPP and KB
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Very cuteThis, is gorgeous...
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