My X is not noticeably larger than my daughter’s 6s in the real world where both are in cases.
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My X is not noticeably larger than my daughter’s 6s in the real world where both are in cases.
You're right. Price is part of the original topic. My apologies. I guess my point is I see you post a lot and the price of the X seems to be an issue with you and it's reflected in many many of your posts.
First year we didn't upgrade. Still like my Jet Black 7+. BUT... I am interested in the so-called X+
I meant the 8plus but thanks anyways. Isn't it sad that the x screen is the biggest but has less real estate than the 8p? Plus you paid 1k for it. Ouch.
Consumers weren’t ‘asking’ for a touch screen with no physical keyboard when the original iPhone was released. If you went to tech sites in 2007 and read people’s comments there were a lot of people who hated the pop up screen keyboard and thought Apple was wrong to not include a physical keyboard like the Blackberry and other similar products did. Lack of a swappable battery was considered a big mistake as well.
The whole point of the original iPhone is it combined a lot of features and abilities that you could get in 2007 but you would need 2 or 3 separate devices to do it. The fact that in a year or so there were lots of similar ‘smartphones’ to the iPhone shows that it could have been done by other companies at roughly the same time. Maybe those competitors had been working on a similar device and Apple just beat them to market.
Which is a long winded way of saying that if customers are asking for a feature you are probably already late.
And yes, I know Apple didn’t invent or release the first smartphone. But that’s a long story to tell here.
I make the point about it’s price a lot so it’s unsurprising you’d notice this pattern. I’ll always have an issue with its price as long as it’s double the price of a standard iPhone.
I upgrade every year and have since the original iPhone. I don't expect that pattern to change.
That's not what the post I quoted said. They claimed the sample size is too small. It's not.
1. I never buy the first version of a new design from Apple. To me, it seems like a recipe for being disappointed in a year and being stuck with a phone that the second-hand or trade-in market no longer values.
2. The iPhone X seems overrated and thus overpriced to me. OLED, FaceID, stainless steel body, and portrait camera as added features are nice, but not 43% more cost nice ($699 plus 43% is $999); especially with TouchID being subtracted. Also the AppleCare+ costs $100 more, so all-in it's really ($848 vs. $1248, or 48% more). So psychologically to me, the iPhone 8 is an easy-sub-one-thousand-dollar-phone, and the iPhone X is a one-and-a-quarter-thousand-dollar-phone, with a nearly 50% price difference. That's not an easy difference to justify, and certainly can't be justified with only a few feature differences.
3. I know the thickness difference is actually quite minimal, but each iPhone X I have seen in public, including my coworkers' that I have played with, looks noticeably thicker than the 8/7, especially with the huge chizeled camera bump.
2. The iPhone X seems overrated and thus overpriced to me. OLED, FaceID, stainless steel body, and portrait camera as added features are nice, but not 43% more cost nice ($699 plus 43% is $999); especially with TouchID being subtracted. Also the AppleCare+ costs $100 more, so all-in it's really ($848 vs. $1248, or 48% more). So psychologically to me, the iPhone 8 is an easy-sub-one-thousand-dollar-phone, and the iPhone X is a one-and-a-quarter-thousand-dollar-phone, with a nearly 50% price difference. That's not an easy difference to justify, and certainly can't be justified with only a few feature differences.
3. I know the thickness difference is actually quite minimal, but each iPhone X I have seen in public, including my coworkers' that I have played with, looks noticeably thicker than the 8/7, especially with the huge chizeled camera bump.
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I'm probably a very small percentage in my reasoning. My reason was that the T-Mobile version got Intel and even the unlocked version didn't get the full Qualcomm modem (They modified it, again). The price was just an insult.
Add in that it's first iteration, I hope this year turns out better.
Add in that it's first iteration, I hope this year turns out better.
Because the previous products were also relatively amazing products. The jump year over year is getting smaller is what I was saying.
the iPhone X screen is larger (5.8") than the iPhone 8 Plus screen (5.5"). I wonder how many other people won't upgrade because they think the iPhone X screen is smaller than a Plus screen.
It’s larger in name only, due to the aspect ratio it’s actually smaller than the iPhone 8 Plus in surface area.
You're right. The iPhone 8 Plus screen is 12.90 square inches while the iPhone X screen is 12.77 square inches. That makes the iPhone 8 Plus screen a whopping 1% bigger.
On the other hand. The 8 Plus' footprint is 19.15 square inches while the iPhone X's footprint is 15.76 square inches. That makes the iPhone 8 Plus 21.5% bigger than the X.
I'll give up that 1% in screen size for a significantly smaller phone.
Apple has been know to contradict itself to market whatever it believer to convince consumers of it vision. If Apple believed in the digital pop-up keyboard then why does the iPad Pro have a physical keyboard. It is still far more comfortable and efficient to use a physical keyboard, that is why. This same convincing was used with the stylus and along came the “pencil.”
I have an iPad Pro with the keyboard and pencil, would I want a similar and additional input options on the iPhone, sure I would. Competitors offer a stylus that have made it popular for fine detailed input and comfort compared to using a finger, however it does not mean that using these alternative means of data/text entry and manipulation is a bad thing. If Apple reversed course on its initial decision, people will just forget the hypocrisy as this is Apple and their will just convince you that this is a new and improved alternate way to data entry and the technology just did not exist back then or not good enough, we have heard it time and time again.
One of the reasons for a non-swappable battery was to make the device thinner and reduce complexity, yet the integrated battery life on the iPhone is terrible and Apples own solution is a silicone care with a “hump” battery to extend usage and the numerious their-party solutions. Is this solution simple, nope. Has internal batteries gotten larger, just marginally as the space is shared with other components.
When the original iPhone was released, it taken three main tasks completed on a computer and went truly mobile, this was done in a near seamless manner with simplicity in-mind and we had the brilliant presenter and presentation of Steve Jobs that just made the audience believer anything is possible on this little device in the palm of your hands. It was the AppStore that slingshot iOS more than anything. As far as competitors go, tech companies always mimick concepts from its competition as they reduce risk in the market to what the consumer will accept to make a product successful. Basically Apple taken some of the risk and it paid-off, and their have been fortunate not to have any major failures in that 10+ year span. I give them credit for that, I am not here to insult them or place them on a pedestal, I prefer to be honest with myself relating to these matters
It's not that I don't want one or anything. Just got my 7+ just over a year ago. So there is nothing wrong with it. Just wanted to keep this one for awhile. Though I'm trying to get more into video and photography, trying to up my content creation game and may upgrade to the next phone when it comes out later in the year. I'd prefer to even wait another year or two though if I could.
All subjective. Apple under Tim Cook is expanding options vs Apple under Steve Jobs. My iPhone has a Bluetooth physical keyboard courtesy of Apple keyboard as does my iPad. The keyboard is a must for entering large amounts of text and I can do that on my iPhone and have done that for years. I expect to see a version of Apple Pencil coming out for the iPhones. As Tim Cook said, Apple is not above admitting it made a mistake, which is not the same as contradiction.Apple has been know to contradict itself to market whatever it believer to convince consumers of it vision. If Apple believed in the digital pop-up keyboard then why does the iPad Pro have a physical keyboard. It is still far more comfortable and efficient to use a physical keyboard, that is why. This same convincing was used with the stylus and along came the “pencil.”
I have an iPad Pro with the keyboard and pencil, would I want a similar and additional input options on the iPhone, sure I would. Competitors offer a stylus that have made it popular for fine detailed input and comfort compared to using a finger, however it does not mean that using these alternative means of data/text entry and manipulation is a bad thing. If Apple reversed course on its initial decision, people will just forget the hypocrisy as this is Apple and their will just convince you that this is a new and improved alternate way to data entry and the technology just did not exist back then or not good enough, we have heard it time and time again.
One of the reasons for a non-swappable battery was to make the device thinner and reduce complexity, yet the integrated battery life on the iPhone is terrible and Apples own solution is a silicone care with a “hump” battery to extend usage and the numerious their-party solutions. Is this solution simple, nope. Has internal batteries gotten larger, just marginally as the space is shared with other components.
When the original iPhone was released, it taken three main tasks completed on a computer and went truly mobile, this was done in a near seamless manner with simplicity in-mind and we had the brilliant presenter and presentation of Steve Jobs that just made the audience believer anything is possible on this little device in the palm of your hands. It was the AppStore that slingshot iOS more than anything. As far as competitors go, tech companies always mimick concepts from its competition as they reduce risk in the market to what the consumer will accept to make a product successful. Basically Apple taken some of the risk and it paid-off, and their have been fortunate not to have any major failures in that 10+ year span. I give them credit for that, I am not here to insult them or place them on a pedestal, I prefer to be honest with myself relating to these matters
Apple devices, IMO, are designed better than the competition and are nicer to hold and thinner, but that doesn’t mean battery life stinks(sic).
You should be honest with yourself, but your points don’t coincide, subjectively, with my points.
Ah, I guess that makes sense.
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It only has less real estate in this singular example: watching an uncropped 16:9 video. It’s literally less than 1% of my phone usage.
Could not find anything in writing on my banks website, beyond that you can use TouchID, with no mention of FaceID, but this article sums up what my bank told me on the phone: http://bgr.com/2017/11/20/iphone-x-face-id-security-mobile-banking/