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RE: "CIRP bases its findings on a rather small survey of 500 customers."

Really MR ???

That should be up at the top, In Red, & in Bold ! ... NOT buried at the bottom !!
 
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20% of all iPhones sold in 2019 still being the 7 and 7S? This should tell the guys at Apple that people don't want to spend all that money on a phone.
 
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The chart is fascinating.

Over the last 12 months:
  • About 19% purchased 2 year old iPhones (7 and 7 Plus)
  • About 22% purchased 1 year old iPhones (8 and 8 Plus)
  • About 59% purchased new iPhone models (XR, XS, XS Max)
  • Plus sized iPhones (Plus, Max, XR) represent about 71% of the sales
  • iPhone XR (about 38%) sold almost as much as all the older iPhones combined
  • iPhone XS and XS Plus (about 21%) sold as much as 1 year old iPhones
A year ago:
  • About 21% purchased 2 year old iPhones (6S, 6S Plus, SE)
  • About 18% purchased 1 year old iPhones (7 and 7 Plus)
  • About 61% purchased new iPhone models (8, 8 Plus, X)
  • Plus sized iPhones represent about 32% of the sales
Year over year observations:
  • 6+" iPhones are the new majority at about 52% (XR and XS Max), up from 0%
  • Share of 5.5" iPhone shrunk about 32% (6S Plus, 7 Plus, 8 Plus) to about 19% (7 Plus, 8 Plus)
  • Share of 4.7" iPhone shrunk from about 44% (6S, 7, 8) to about 22% (7, 8)
  • Share of 5.8" iPhone shrunk from about 16% (X) to about 7% (XS)
  • 4" iPhone is down from 8% to 0% as SE is now discontinued
 
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You really think the average iPhone consumer wants "bleeding edge of technology"?

My bad. Not the average user but the average troll that strolls in every few post crying about and wanting “innovation” so bad it hurts kind of “bleeding edge”.
 
The chart is fascinating.

Over the last 12 months:
  • About 19% purchased 2 year old iPhones (7 and 7 Plus)
  • About 22% purchased 1 year old iPhones (8 and 8 Plus)
  • About 59% purchased new iPhone models (XR, XS, XS Max)
  • Plus sized iPhones (Plus, Max, XR) represent about 71% of the sales
  • iPhone XR (about 38%) sold almost as much as all the older iPhones combined
  • iPhone XS and XS Plus (about 21%) sold as much as 1 year old iPhones
A year ago:
  • About 21% purchased 2 year old iPhones (6S, 6S Plus, SE)
  • About 18% purchased 1 year old iPhones (7 and 7 Plus)
  • About 61% purchased new iPhone models (8, 8 Plus, X)
  • Plus sized iPhones represent about 32% of the sales
Year over year observations:
  • 6+" iPhones are the new majority at about 52% (XR and XS Max), up from 0%
  • Share of 5.5" iPhone shrunk about 32% (6S Plus, 7 Plus, 8 Plus) to about 19% (7 Plus, 8 Plus)
  • Share of 4.7" iPhone shrunk from about 44% (6S, 7, 8) to about 22% (7, 8)
  • Share of 5.8" iPhone shrunk from about 16% (X) to about 7% (XS)
  • 4" iPhone is down from 8% to 0% as SE is now discontinued
Interestingly, despite being a tech geek, I'm still on my 7 Plus (with a new battery). I think that was a decent bang for the buck as it got higher storage than before, dual lenses with better cameras and portrait mode. It got the first Apple iPhone SoC to include hardware HEVC 4K recording for video. It was Apple's first iPhone to get 3 GB RAM. And it is a Plus-sized phone with a much higher pixel density than the iPhone XR.

Cost of the 7 Plus at launch?
US$769 - 32 GB
US$869 - 128 GB

Cost of the XR at launch?
US$749 - 64 GB
US$799 - 128 GB

Cost of he XS Max at launch?
US$1099 - 64 GB
US$1249 - 256 GB

As mentioned before, the old flagship pricing is now the new mid-tier pricing, that being the XR. Overall I think the 7 Plus was a better bang for the buck historically than the XR is now. And while the XS Max is a great iPhone, its pricing is just crazy.

So, given these choices, I stayed with my 7 Plus. The XR is a nice phone but a downgrade in some ways, and the XS Max was just too expensive. I did buy an XR for the wife though, as it was a major upgrade from her 6s (with same pixel density). I wasn't interested in the XS since it is a narrower phone and doesn't support Zoomed Display mode. The 7 Plus, XR, and XS Max all support Zoomed Display mode.
 
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What's depressing to me is that the combined 7/8/XS sales look around 28~29%

The vast majority of the market is picking big phones and that crushes my SE 2 dream even further.
 
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Familiarizing yourself with statistical analysis would go a long way in clarifying your misunderstanding.
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The logical fallacy in your statement is that two bad phones in a row doesn't mean that all of them are manufactured poorly.
And Face ID works quickly and securely for me so far.
 
20% of all iPhones sold in 2019 still being the 7 and 7S? This should tell the guys at Apple that people don't want to spend all that money on a phone.
It tells Apple that 20% or all people didn't want to spend all that money on.a phone. 50% paid for some kind of iPhone X.
 
Interesting the lower end numbers in 2018:
around 9% 6S
around 4% 6SPlus
around 8% SE
I remember, these three phones were priced very close together in 2018. Technically they are very similar.

Conclusion: If there are three variants of screen sizes inside of one price range, then more than one third of people choose SE screen size!!!
 
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Familiarizing yourself with statistical analysis would go a long way in clarifying your misunderstanding.
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The logical fallacy in your statement is that two bad phones in a row doesn't mean that all of them are manufactured poorly.
 
Familiarizing yourself with statistical analysis would go a long way in clarifying your misunderstanding.
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The logical fallacy in your statement is that two bad phones in a row doesn't mean that all of them are manufactured poorly.

Nice passive aggressive comment. I didn't make any such assertion but don't let that stop you bending the forum rules.

Every iPhone I've had since the original has had an issue. Is that plain enough English for you?
 
Apple is finding out what the threshold cost people will pay for "features". $750 vs. $1100 for an Xs - that seems to be the point of pain for a LOT of buyers. For what you get vs. a Samsung model.. its not really a deal. But if Apple is what you want, you really don't have much choice- going back to 1985.

Well, it seems to me that you are buying not just a phone when you buy an iPhone. You are also buying the infrastructure that provides service and support. With Apple that is both (in my experience) a local and very competently staffed brick and mortar store, as well as one of the best online and phone based support networks that I have ever encountered. Add to this a design and engineering department that has pulled off (as one example) the X series’ facial recognition system that is so seamless in my experience, that you forget it is even working. Overall, imho a reasonably fair deal for the money spent. With a Samsung model it seems like you get...a phone, and maybe one os update during the life of the phone.
 
It’s never been my favourite iPhone but it’s doing what it’s supposed to do in terms of sales. I think it will be a slow burner but eventually turn out to be quite a success. Well done Tim.
 
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Having had both the XS max and XR, I can honestly say that the XS max is in no way worth £/$350 more than the XR. The XR is a fantastic phone for the majority of people.
 
Having had both the XS max and XR, I can honestly say that the XS max is in no way worth £/$350 more than the XR. The XR is a fantastic phone for the majority of people.
I have both phone also. The xr is a fantastic phone. I thought the max was worth the price increment over the xr.
 
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