The vast majority of iPhone owners are not following any tech blogs. We are an echo chamber here.All those people, the 70%, are obviously not following macrumors, cause if they did, they'd know it's not going to be a real upgrade
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Survey: Nearly 70% of Users Plan to Upgrade to iPhone 17
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Not interested this year. A major chassis change like this has the potential for unanticipated adverse issues when beta testing begins retail sales begin.
I won't upgrade unless there is a reason to, but lately Apple has been in a rut simply releasing "more of the same thing" and not really creating "must have" and "game changing" features that give you a solid reason to upgrade. The iPhone 17 event (or iPad, Mac event) will basically be: slightly faster GPU/ CPU, slightly smaller bezel/ Dynamic Island, slightly faster modem, more AI (who cares), slightly better camera etc etc. Al the features that matter/ you want will be delayed yet another year because Apple got caught with their pants down with respect to AI and they're still farting around trying to get caught up (and yet Siri still remains fairly stupid somehow).
Yawn. Maybe Apple's tagline should be changed from "think differently" to "more of the same thing" or "maybe next year".
Yawn. Maybe Apple's tagline should be changed from "think differently" to "more of the same thing" or "maybe next year".
Well,certainly quite a few MR posters do believe that they represent all users …
Normally I upgrade once the battery of my current iPhone consistently needs at least some charging during the day, but I think I'll stretch out my iPhone 14 Pro's life a little longer this time.
Last year the big selling points were a poorly positioned camera button and the promise of AI features that have only partially materialised to a pretty negative reception.
This year we get the ugliest redesign in iPhone history, another camera upgrade (frankly the 14 Pro camera is already more than good enough), and.... crickets. Unless they have a pretty major new killer feature that's managed to evade leakers then I'm guessing this year's iPhones are going to be another disappointment.
And if they don't start improving the iPhone significantly soon I may do the previously unthinkable and switch to Android. My first computer was my brother's old first edition Macintosh and I've been a loyal Apple customer ever since, but liking the Apple ecosystem just isn't cutting it anymore when you see how good some Android options are looking.
Last year the big selling points were a poorly positioned camera button and the promise of AI features that have only partially materialised to a pretty negative reception.
This year we get the ugliest redesign in iPhone history, another camera upgrade (frankly the 14 Pro camera is already more than good enough), and.... crickets. Unless they have a pretty major new killer feature that's managed to evade leakers then I'm guessing this year's iPhones are going to be another disappointment.
And if they don't start improving the iPhone significantly soon I may do the previously unthinkable and switch to Android. My first computer was my brother's old first edition Macintosh and I've been a loyal Apple customer ever since, but liking the Apple ecosystem just isn't cutting it anymore when you see how good some Android options are looking.
Not upgrading. Replaced my 16 Pro Max under Apple Care a few months back due to an issue. So new phone, new battery. Apple is now like LEGO. The iPhone is just printing money for them. Same thing over and over again, just a little different here and there. Waiting until my phone dies or something substantial like a fully screen (no islands or cutouts) is released.
Paying $1500+ for a phone is absurd. Even on iPhone Upgrade Program - tired of constantly being an ATM for everyone.
Paying $1500+ for a phone is absurd. Even on iPhone Upgrade Program - tired of constantly being an ATM for everyone.
“According to the data, 68.3% of current iPhone users intend to purchase an iPhone 17 model at launch…”
Sounds like someone is trying hard to juice demand and enthusiasm for the new model. Surveys can always be manipulated to show what you want them to show.
New iPhones are overrated, especially when they come out with a new one every year. It’s a status symbol for some people. I personally know people that can’t pay their rent but somehow always have the latest phone.
Sounds like someone is trying hard to juice demand and enthusiasm for the new model. Surveys can always be manipulated to show what you want them to show.
New iPhones are overrated, especially when they come out with a new one every year. It’s a status symbol for some people. I personally know people that can’t pay their rent but somehow always have the latest phone.
Hmm a galaxy fold must be a status symbol then. Trying to understand the line between useful technology and status symbol.
I work in IT and do network construction in the field. 5 weeks ago I dropped my phone, the entire back glass broke. $129 and I got a new phone via express replacement - that’s more the reason than i keep AC on it. I think it’s $700 to replace the glass.
I guess it depends on whether you trust a survey of intended purchases, or a survey of market share!
The iPhone itself is a luxury status symbol. In my very own opinion, buying the newest model every year, except for the very few who "need" the latest and greatest (I have no idea who these people are), is pretentious. They are expensive devices that are designed and marketed to ellicit attention and envy from others. Dua Lipa already has an iPhone 17! Where are all the greenwashers trying to save the planet?
Dua Lipa Outshines Even Apple’s Flashiest iPhone 17 Color
The average user keeps their iPhone 3-5 years. How does that square with 70% "planning" to buy a 17 this year? The math doesn't math.That's why the wording and context is everything. You can ask a poll question two different ways, and get different answers.
I'm not heavily invested into whether this info is true or not; I just find it preposterous to think that 70% of users are "planning" to buy that phone. If the survey was 40-50% I would probably find it more believable.
4 or 5 out of 10 users? Sure. 7 out of 10 users? Absolutely not.
As a source, the below article is a couple years old but was the most recent in-depth article I found. Clearly, 70% of the user base has not been buying the newest iPhone, otherwise 70% would be accounted for in the blue and peach bands of the distribution. Past behavior is an indicator of future behavior.
"March 2021 was still the peak for the average age of iPhones but the 2023 results are moving back near those numbers.
In explanation of all the upgrades that appeared to happen in 2022, CIRP believes it was likely a mix of COVID-induced iPhone purchases, government stimulus checks, “and the interruption of travel and entertainment spending helped consumers afford newer models.”
The report also highlights that those factors may have lined up with “more aggressive trade-in programs that offered exceptional value for relatively new used phones as well.”
Here’s how long Apple users are holding on to their iPhones
App Store - Support - Apple Developer
Don’t “trust” either, but this could be a supercycle upgrade as predicted. Lies, damn lies and statistics…correct!I guess it depends on whether you trust a survey of intended purchases, or a survey of market share!
It absolutely is not a status symbol especially with billions out there. It is a nicely made premium device that performs a set of tasks.
Thank you for clarifying it’s your opinion. I can’t judge the motives of iPhone buyers. I can imagine a universe where the iPhone is a customers only computer, spending hours a day on it. Upgrading a device yearly that you use to manage your life is not out of the realm of being reasonable.
I disagree here. Firstly, expensive is a judgment call. Secondly dont manufacturers design products to be noticed by the buying population. Or am I missing something?
Not sure how this is relevant to the thread. Of course Apple is going to promote its products as does every manufacturer.
We’ll all thisncan be thrown out the window if this is a super cycle upgrade.
We’ll see what happens.
It's just what Timmy want's, no reality in that.
This year was just boring, same same old more or less.
No hints on Apple Flip/Fold - the only phone I would consider to buy from Apple now. The other phones are TOO BIG for me, wayyy TOO BIG.