I agree with the others suspecting they included mostly respondents already leaning towards upgrading.
Yes this seems like selection bias, a common problem in polling.
I agree with the others suspecting they included mostly respondents already leaning towards upgrading.
Have you read the actual survey results? It appears to have been a good faith survey conducted by a real company that does surveys. And the results appear to be credible to me.And this is a credible survey…..
SellCell did not conduct the survey themselves. They contracted with a company that does surveys as their business. I encourage you to read the actual survey results.100% of people who expressed an interest in upgrading their phones said that they were interested in buying a new phone to replace their old phone.
In reality, I honestly do not believe that 70% of iPhone owners around the world are going to buy a phone from the iPhone 17 range.
I'd want to know more about how SellCell selected these 2,000 U.S.-based iPhone users, and exactly what questions they were asked in the survey.
I did not see any references to that, but because it's a survey done by a professional survey company, I would expect that the respondents were randomly chosen from a pool of current iPhone users.Were they self-selecting? Did they enter the survey by clicking on a link from, say, sites advertising or promoting iPhone 17 or accessories? Did the survey ad / link / pop up say something like "Are you going to upgrade to an iPhone 17? If so, please take part in our survey....."
Not always true. I once waited in the line at McDonalds (the correct spelling) to tell them that they were out of soap and paper towels in the men's room.100% of people waiting in line in MacDonalds want to eat or drink something. That does not mean 100% of all people want to eat or drink.
Could it be off? Yes. Could it be off by 10% in either direction? Possibly, but probably not. But if they were (and a 10% variance would be HUGE), then it's either 69.3% or 70.7%.70%…
Really?
I find that incredibly hard to believe. Who did they survey?
Sure, any poll can be off. But by how much? In this case, I say it won't be off by a lot. Read the results for yourself if you doubt my claim that this was a well-conducted poll with well-thought-out poll questions.Any kind of poll can be taken with a grain of salt. I’m going to upgrade from my iPhone 14 but I doubt 70% of people with iPhones are upgrading.
And this is where people get themselves into trouble. You're relying on your own bias to make that statement. The whole reason anybody does a poll is to remove personal opinion as a factor.70% is not believable.
I don't know what that means.2,000 users?
That’s it, bring the super cycle comments NOW!
Me too!...I'm a little tempted by the new shiny, but I know it's just empty calories. Still, I'll wait to see what new wonders they promise at the announcement event.
Hahaha! Sometimes I could swear that I can imagine MR is populated by banks and banks of poo-posting monkeys, just like in that Superman movie.Not on these forums. Everyone has said it’s ugly and they aren’t buying it. I am though![]()
I agree with you. The average customer is indeed clueless about AI. But I do think the survey was done correctly, and I think the results should at least be reviewed.The issue is not necessarily the survey. Average consumer is pretty clueless regarding AI. Some heard about Apple or ChatGPT and that’s it.
Copilot/Gemini is sometimes not even known. Most people have no idea what is Perplexity / Claude / Mistral etc
That is true too. It's entirely possible that 70% of iPhone users in and not in the survey are thinking about buying this time around.Most people here are tech enthusiasts, we do not represent average consumers
2,000 is not a small sample size.That's a very small sample size to make such broad sweeping generalizations, which really don't apply to Apple's billions of customers at large.
I asked that question above. Here's what Google tells me:So is 2,000 US-only based users, to be fair.
Why should it? The respondents' responses about whether or not they plan to buy has nothing to do with whether or not they can flawlessly identify the current leader in AI technology. That's the part that matters, because the last time I was in the Apple Store, they didn't give me a pop-quiz before they would sell me my iPhone 16.“When asked which company leads in AI, 44% named Apple, while both Samsung and Google were selected by 6.6% of respondents. Ten percent of users said no brand currently leads in the AI space.”
This has pretty much nullified all the other statistics of this study for me.
This. I would very quickly give up my 13 Mini for a new Mini but it isn't going to happen. Phablets all the way.I would love to upgrade to 17 mini... Unfortunately, big and heavy iPhones only.
30% of iPhone customers are probably people that are going to upgrade every year no matter what. It's probably split between people that do it for the image of looking like a tech enthusiast even thought they could care less and the people that actually are tech enthusiasts and genuinely like trying new things.What is considered an "upgrade" in today's iPhone standards?. New-again color?, more RAM in some versions?, better zoom?, adequate CPU?.
This is why I'm really hoping Apple goes for a Flip iPhone before a Folding iPad mini, but I don't think it will ever happen. I've known 4 people that have an iPhone Pro Max that have complained about how big their phone is. 3 of them have upgraded to another Max in the past year and when asked why say they like the bigger screen. 🤷🏻♂️This. I would very quickly give up my 13 Mini for a new Mini but it isn't going to happen. Phablets all the way.