They can't, it's just more BS from someone who probably doesn't like that people are buying something different to them...
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Swiss Manufacturer Creates High-End Mechanical Apple Watch Clone
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They can't, it's just more BS from someone who probably doesn't like that people are buying something different to them...
You are conflating various opinions by various people into one cohesive flip flop. That's not how it works. There are some people who still think the AW design is terrible. There are other people who think the AW's design has been validated.
Opinions aren't Lego blocks. You can't just fit them together and make "Everything is AWESOME!" (bonus points for those who get the reference)
Then there are those of us who actually know this is a boutique watch maker taking a jab at Apple specifically, and the smartwatch industry in general. Their ads and video are pretty "in your face" statements. They are nicely done and capture Apple's shtick perfectly. They are getting the exposure they were after. It's next level trolling and pretty brilliant on their behalf.
TL;DR It's not that crucial.
What you are expressing here is known as "willful ignorance", my brother. Of course Apple doesn't own the rights to square watches any more than it owns the rights to rectangular phones. The watch in question copies a lot more than the square design...it copies almost every aspect of the complete Apple Watch aesthetic. You know this to be a fact, so I'm not sure why you're making this stubborn argument. Defending this watch is about as willfully ignorant as some who defends the HTC A9 by saying Apple doesn't own rectangles.
First of all how can anyone copy the AW watch when the designs already existed prior to the AW?
You need to come back to reality and realize Apple didn't invent everything. Do you think they invented the AW watch shape? Anyone else releasing a watch is now copying the AW?
The last time i checked this forum was open to the public. The threads and posts are open to polite discussions. I don't own and AW. That is why I am not commenting on its functionality or anything like that. The thread topic was design. The topic stated the watch was a clone. It obviously is not a AW clone as the design existed before the AW.
Thank you for taking time to state the obvious...your efforts are both appreciated and misplaced. Obviously I didn't take a survey of all AW opinions in existence and then came up with this opinion. My comment is based on the posts I've observed in recent days on various blogs. And what I've observed is that the critical narrative by some has shifted to the "Apple didn't invent the square" domain. Others are now pointing this out as it is quite funny. Unfortunately I'm not in the know as to whether or not this is a playful, clever jab at Apple...doesn't seem so obvious judging from the 8 pages of comments.
Let's not resort to insults! Let's not bring smartphones into this discussion as it is off topic.
So how is this a copy of the AW and AW not a copy of prior designs that look exactly like the AW?
Why is it only one way for you? Do you not think Apple gets inspiration form other products and designs? they do off course. All companies borrow design cues from each other. It's good business practiced by all.
There is enough proof of existing prior designs on the internet if one chooses to look it up.
Like igorsky says above, you are going above & beyond to deny that there is more then a passing similarity between the 2 devices, we aren't talking just a square face, it's pretty much the whole design & finish, if you truly can't see that there really isn't much point discussing it politely or not. The fact that it's now clear that even the maker of the watch is poking a bit of fun at apples & have heavily, not slightly, copied the design is another indicator. Once again Apple isn't claiming to be the inventor of everything, square or not, but when something encroaches so heavily on their design it's a different matter. At no point either did I claim you weren't free to discuss this but I still stand by my comment that I find it odd when people seem to spend so much time being increasingly negative about a product/service that don't use or intend to?!...
I'm not calling you ignorant personally, i'm just saying that you're choosing to play that way in defense of your argument...that's what willful ignorance is. If you think the Casio to the AW is the same comparison as the AW to this Swiss product, then you're just being dishonest. Two items being the same shape does not make a copy...it's a lot more complicated than that. Certainly the photo of the Patek Phillipe looks nothing like the Apple Watch, and they're both square.
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Human nature, my friend. "I can't afford this product so it's stupid". "I don't understand it's aesthetic appeal so it's ugly". People apply this to everything, not just the Apple Watch.
That's a pretty expensive mock. If this was just about trolling Apple I'm sure they'd could have done it for much cheaper. Like throwing a parody video up on YouTube which IKEA has done in the past. No company's spends all this effort to create a watch they're going to sell for $24K just to mock another company.
So then are every round Android Wear watches just copies of prior designs? I would argue something like the Huawei Watch is 'copying' existing mechanical watch aesthetics more so than Apple Watch is.
You and igorsky seem to really take this personally. Don't understand that at all. I have not said anything negative about the AW. Have not disparaged it in any way shape or form. I don't own one but have family members and friends that have them and they love the AW.
My position is the opening statement of this thread is that the watch in the picture is an AW clone. It can't be a AW clone if the designs existed before the AW.
The designs existing before the AW is not in dispute so how can it be an AW clone?
Please don't take this the wrong way, but if you're forming your opinion based on comments, you're definitely doing it wrong. Try the source material. A cursory view of the video would make their intent patently <- see what I there? obvious. The square vs round vs copy of AW vs other watches were square first is a rabbit hole of wrong direction.
They copied the style of the AW. It was intentional. It was for marketing. If they sell none of those watches, it's still a win for them. Any of them sold will just be gravy.
First of all you're way off base saying I'm taking this personally. I'm participating in a discussion just like you.
Second, regarding your position that AW designs existed before the AW...if you show me one watch in the last 100 years that has looked so utterly identical to the AW as H. Moser & Cie.'s model, I will gracefully bow out of this thread.
There is enough prior art that the AW designs existed before the AW did. All you have to do is look.
There has been enough posts threads and discussion around the AW looking quite similar to existing designs from years and decades ago. The images are there if one choose to look.
The design in the thread picture has existed before the AW.
My guess is that there are 50 rich Apple critics in the world (perhaps limited solely to those who are currently making a killing shorting Apple stock) who would spend this money as a joke.
I'm forming an opinion on the comments, not on the product. Thought that was clear.
Some people say "no publicity is bad publicity"...maybe that's true. I view this as a company making a laughingstock of itself and potentially hurting future business. But we'll see.
If youre still commenting about one copying the other and who was first, blah, blah...you're still not getting the joke.
I came back here to read more comments and see if people actually read about or even watched the video, and no...barely any of you did...just rushed to add your opinion. Some of you even thought the comment about the watch being feminine was from a forum dweller, when its in the 1st or 2nd paragraph from the article. SMH.
How much useless **** are you people feeding the internet everyday?
I came back here to read more comments and see if people actually read about or even watched the video, and no...barely any of you did...just rushed to add your opinion. Some of you even thought the comment about the watch being feminine was from a forum dweller, when its in the 1st or 2nd paragraph from the article. SMH.
How much useless **** are you people feeding the internet everyday?
Don't waste your time. I don't know if he's clouded by Apple hate or some form of cataracts, but this guy is determined to prove that all square watches are the same and, by definition, Apple is copying any square watch ever made. I mean using the Galaxy Gear and an iPod Shuffle for comparison shows an exceptional kind of delusion.
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To be fair, even the H. Moser doesn't look "utterly identical" to the
Watch, though it is very similar. 
I think you misunderstand. I have a house full of Apple products. My daily driver is a iPhone 6s Plus. I am typing this on my rMBP.... wireless provided by my 2TB Time Capsule.
People can't be accused of copying Apple's designs when prior designs existed already before the AW.
The watch in question does look very similar to the AW. The AW looks similar to a lot of prior watches too...but so what..... get so tired of all this copying stuff!