switching to samsung (maybe)

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  1. j4j2014 macrumors newbie

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    considering making the switch from iPhone to Samsung gal/note. I don't really want to, as I've been a iPhone guy for the last 10 years, but the note has several features I like, that the iPhone does not have (I think). before I make the switch. I wanted to check with some experienced people and make sure the iPhone does not do a couple of the same functions. One feature the galaxy has is the 'Dex' system which appears to allow a seamless use of smartphone as a pc/desktop and i'm thinking about checking out some of the virtual reality components available in which I don't hear much of the iPhone mentioned when the subject is brought up. My question is, does the iPhone support both of these functions and I 'm just not aware of it!

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  2. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    Well, as far as I know I cannot attach three monitors to my iPhone, a mouse and keyboard and run InDesign on it. Probably can't do that on an Android phone either.

    Also, as far as I know there's no way to hook my iPhone up to our Windows Server so I can access file shares and open ID documents. Maybe Samsung might have that ability?

    Sorry, just ran with this 'desktop' thing and assumed it meant that it would be functioning like my MacPro.
     
  3. IGotOne macrumors regular

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    I bought an S8+ on a whim just to have something to play with (mainly GearVR), when a killer deal popped up a few months back.

    Dex is a joke (think ChromeBook, only... worse).

    VR on the other hand is awesome. If you want a VR setup that's also mobile, it's hard to beat the GearVR paired with a 2017 flagship. Everyone I show is crazy impressed.

    Beyond VR, and a really pretty screen, I find it inferior to the iPhone 7 plus I also own in every other way. Even the camera, which is really nice, lacks the optical zoom effect that I really do use a lot.

    I wouldn't buy it again, but it's a neat toy for VR.

    Since the Note 8 is essentially an S8+ with a .1" bigger screen and an S-Pen, I can safely say I'd feel the same with the Note.
     
  4. Bane-Thunder macrumors 6502

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    I had an S8 for three months. Then sold it. Android is what I will simply call an acquired taste.

    Went right back to iPhone. Couldn’t be more excited for the oled iPhone X now. I’ve seen what oled is capable of and it’s glorious!
     
  5. SmugMaverick macrumors member

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    The OLED on the X isn't as bright or good as the S8 so don't get too excited.
     
  6. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    Do yourself a favor and do not sell your iPhone until you are sure. The DEX system is not as great as it sounds.
     
  7. GrumpyMom macrumors 604

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    The Note 8 looks like a nice phone. Make sure if you get the VR Goggles for it that you get the latest model that works with the Note 8. The one that was released with the S8 and S8's+ is not going to give a secure fit, according to what I read. Some people say Note 8 fits, others say it's a bad fit. Since you're starting fresh get the one that is made to accommodate your phone.

    VR is a lot of fun but it does make some people get headaches or nausea. My whole family gets woozy and headaches after about 10-15 minutes even on the easiest types of apps. I have not had any problems myself, despite having a propensity to develop migraines outside of VR. But everyone reacts differently.

    I have an S8+. I don't like the curved edges on its display. The Note 8 has better edges but I'm not fond of any edges. I've liked most everything else about it, though. The fingerprint sensor works okay for me. Not great, but okay. The location is stupid but I find it tolerable. My husband is liking Bixby. I've never tried it. He says Dex is okay but he hasn't really found as much need for it as he thought he would. He has recurring lag problems on his S8+. I run far fewer apps than he does, so I've not had the same issues.

    Good luck to you.

    Oh for what it's worth, I think AR on iOS is probably going to be more useful and fun than VR in the long run. I'm using it on my 7 Plus and like it a lot. The apps aren't fabulous yet but they're surprisingly engaging so far. My favorite one is a virtual dragon. I'm hoping someone comes out with a virtual R2D2 and BB-8.
     
  8. avtella, Oct 2, 2017
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    According to the GSMArena test this week the Note 8 has a slightly better camera system in terms of overall details and better night photos vs the iPhone 8+. Not a huge difference though. TBH it seems like a nice phone but I hate oled and the rounded/curved edges. I use my phone enough that I know with my usage patterns I’d see burn in within a year lol with an oled device. TouchWiz is much better now but as others mention it’s still janky.

    If going for Android I’d stick to pure Google devices like the Pixel, no lag/jank whatsoever and timely monthly updates and security fixes, plus Google’s own support is very quick to reach by phone with quick replacements if anything goes wrong, about as good as Apple support wise in my own experience.
     
  9. Synomenon macrumors 6502

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    I sold my 7 Plus two weeks ago and until yesterday was on a Galaxy S7 Edge.

    Even with the fairly high end specs. of the S7 Edge, Android just didn't feel as snappy as iOS does. Also the design elements and "flow" of some apps. that are on both iOS and Android; just seem less "optimized" on Android. One glaring example is with Facebook. In iOS its navigation bar is at the bottom where our hands and fingers normally are on the phone. On Android, the bar is up top where depending on the phone's screen size you'll have to use your other hand to tap on something on the bar or stretch your thumb all the way up while supporting the phone with your other hand.
     
  10. ghsNick macrumors 68030

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    I’m making the switch today to the Note 8!

    Can’t hurt to try something new for the first time in 10 years.
     
  11. IGotOne macrumors regular

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    Second this. It's a GORGEOUS screen, but even the S8+ is twitchy/laggy. It's just the nature of the beast with Android.

    IF you care about everything being "smooth", it's better to stick with the iPhone. I'm convinced that Android users who don't notice it have just gotten used to it over the years. It's a fine OS, and were it not for iOS, it's what I'd use (and be happy with)... but there's iOS.
     
  12. DaveOP macrumors 65816

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    Another new account telling us about how great Samsung is! This is becoming a weekly occurrence around here. The iPhone does neither of these things, because a Mac is better as a real computer, and AR seems to have more traction than VR. If you want Dex and Gear VR, you should 100% buy a Samsung phone.
     
  13. jamesrick80, Oct 2, 2017
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    For those who state DeX is a joke, please do yourself a favor and truly use it. Most people calling it a joke never used it or didn't give it a chance (same ones who called AMOLED screens a joke years ago). It's nearly flawless and works nicely. Now, alot of Android apps are more optimized for it and it is the closest mobile device that can transform into a PC with a seamless experience. I'm surprised how well DeX actually works and I use it daily.

    On the other hand, virtual reality is what makes a mobile device a fun mobile device these days with some interesting experiences. I prefer VR over AR anytime because it's just more fun and immersive (I rather not hold my phone in my hands waiting for a 3D image to pop up on the screen in a local area to play some AR game....seems cumbersome). Samsung VR really has alot to offer and there are so many apps unlike when it first came out a few years ago. VR can only keep improving and Samsung is planning a standalone headset that doesn't even require the phone.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...ung-dex-station-galaxy-s8-review-desktop-dock

    I say make the switch and never return.
     
  14. Applefan4515 Suspended

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    I switched to an s8 plus back in April. You’ll be back. Android has come a long ways but I think there a certain annoyances that will get to anyone who has had an iPhone for a while. I even bought an 8 plus to tide me over until the X comes out, that’s how bad I wanted away from Android.
     
  15. jamesrick80 macrumors 68020

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    And he should believe someone who calls themselves applefan. :rolleyes:
     
  16. DaveOP macrumors 65816

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    Point is, why bother with the setup for Dex. If you have a monitor, keyboard and mouse, chances are you have a much better computer to run them with. The Dex setup is not practically portable.

    VR is more immersive, but AR will have so much more practical use once it's in glasses, rather than a phone. This seems obvious as the next step for AR, once the hardware and software are ready.
     
  17. Nozuka macrumors 68020

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    wow..... your posts are getting more and more like a samsung commercial. nearly flawless? seriously? have you ever used a workstation?

    i do believe it's a big step in the right direction and i'm glad samsung is pushing this, but it's definitely far from flawless and there is much they can improve. even your link shows how it's not flawless.

    and don't get me started on VR.... the resolution is still not high enough to have it so close to your eyes. it's a pain to use. tried it several times, it's just not ready for prime time and you can see like a grid between the pixels. (that's a problem with all VR devices, but much less with playstation VR, because they have the same amount of subpixels for every color) apparently it's called the screen-door effect.
    but not everyone is bothered by this by the same amount.
     
  18. jamesrick80, Oct 2, 2017
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    I said nearly flawless for it's intended purpose. It was never met to replace your true desktop rig. It's convenient especially if you did some work on your phone that you need to view and edit on a bigger screen without the hassle. You dock it and voila, ready to edit. All microsoft office apps are fully optimized as well. Also if you are visiting a relative and needed to do some work that was on your device, bringing that dock has been useful for me since they all have PC setups and it ensures ultimate privacy without using their actual PC. It very well depends on your use cases. P.S. my link is when it first came out with the S8, it has improved leaps and bounds since then with better app support.

    VR is steadily improving. That screen door effect will soon be gone in future iterations that don't require the phone. It's no way holding your phone while running a AR app is funner and more immersive than using VR. AR apps will be on Google android soon so I'm not even thinking about it (Pokemon go for the win). At least VR has plenty of apps ready to be experienced and alot of people at least are learning to use it since it will be a very much appreciated part of our lives in the near future.

    I'm sure if a iPhone had both of these features, you guys will gloat and act like it's the second coming of you know who....... especially since adding boring face recognition and Tango-like AR apps wowed you. DeX is the perfect way to use a desktop class mobile processor and Samsung is doing it without the A11.
     
  19. DaveOP macrumors 65816

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    Dex is a waste of a powerful processor. You still have not made any case for having one. Quit pretending that the long-game for AR is holding a phone up, it'll be glasses. Google was about a decade ahead of it's time with AR, but it's coming full circle now.

    I think we all get that you love Samsung, but understand that we love Apple for the same reasons. Keep talking trash about everything, it wont change our minds anymore than we will change yours.
     
  20. jamesrick80 macrumors 68020

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    I didnt trash talk. It seems you became angry about my statements. I just enjoy using the true power of my devices. Sorry if it offends you. And how can you say something is a waste when it's actually useful...no one told you face recognition was a waste or AR. Did I tell you that the only two true additional features on your latest devices was a waste...no i didn't????

    I'm only here to help the OP switch. OP please look at the above quote by this poster....they rather you miss out.
     
  21. BeefSupreme macrumors regular

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    Bought a note 8 last week. Takes a bit getting used to it, but it instantly made the iPhone 8 feel very dated. Apple would have kept me if they had of released a large screen oled. Maybe next year if they come out with something I'll go back to them.
     
  22. DaveOP macrumors 65816

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    I am not angry dude, I don't take this stuff seriously enough to let it bother me. Dex seems pointless at best, I still see no reason you've presented that makes it at all interesting.
     
  23. Nozuka macrumors 68020

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    I currently prefer iOS for various reasons, but i always give credit where credit is due and have been jumping to android several times, because they had features i was jealous of and there are always things i miss on both sides, when i switch. i switched last year, because i was excited about the AMOLED screens, for example and apple was not delivering. and i was actually excited when i heard that the S8 was getting face recognition, because it works great on my laptop with IR Cam. until i found out it's not using an IR system and i was very disappointed, because this prevents it from working well in the dark.

    I personally don't think VR and AR can be compared, they are completely different things... So far AR doesn't seem very good to me, because the screen is way too small to make it feel like you are actually experiencing this in RL.. might be better with tablets, but have fun walking around with a tablet lol... but glasses might help here.
    but who knows, maybe something like the ruler or ikea app can be useful. and i think children might have a lot of fun with it.

    and VR will become better too, i agree. but it's not in a state i can enjoy it at the moment. but thats true for any VR system that currently exists. most of my gamer friends played around with it for a few hours max and never touched it again. and it cuts you off from your surroundings, which can be good and bad. so at least with the gearVR you won't waste alot of money to test it, if you already have the phone.

    all of the things discussed in this topic sound good on paper, but are not ready for prime time - IMHO. it might be good enough for some, but it's not in a state i can actually use and enjoy it myself.
     
  24. Applefan4515 Suspended

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    What’s my name have to do with anything? I joined this forum before I had gotten the s8 plus. Only browsed occasionally while I had the s8 plus.
     
  25. G.McGilli macrumors regular

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    TO YOU.

    You need to make sure you don't speak for the masses when talking about yourself.
     

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