iPhone X Switching to Verizon with ATT iPhone X...anyone else make the move?

[BiggAW]

If you are on the phone, you are using LTE. To use Data, it falls back to 3G while on the phone. And that requires CDMA. Last post towards you since it's obvious you don't get it.

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. Verizon iPhones DO NOT USE CDMA for simultaneous voice and data while on LTE. No way, no how, not going to happen. I have also found ZERO documentation that would suggest that SVDO or SVLTE has ever been supported. No technology has EVER used LTE for voice and CDMA (EVDO) for data on ANY phone. SVDO allowed CDMA and EVDO at the same time, SVLTE allowed LTE for data and CDMA for voice.

You obviously don't understand how cellular networks even work, or what any of the technology is, so you continue to make ignorant posts.

If your AT&T iPhone on Verizon doesn't have data while on a call, that's some sort of provisioning problem or something on Verizon's end, as VoLTE fundamentally IS data, so you ARE using data, you just can't seem to get data to work on anything else. However, at this point, you are so clueless, I really don't believe that you even have that problem, as you continually make factually incorrect statements.
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Then that's a provisioning issue which should be fixable. My phone definitely uses LTE for both simultaneously.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I wouldn't be surprised if Verizon's system for provisioning LTE-only phones is FUBAR, as there are so few of them on the network.

 

[Grimham]

Then that's a provisioning issue which should be fixable. My phone definitely uses LTE for both simultaneously.

You have an AT&T iPhone on Verizon? I doubt that.
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You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. Verizon iPhones DO NOT USE CDMA for simultaneous voice and data while on LTE. No way, no how, not going to happen. I have also found ZERO documentation that would suggest that SVDO or SVLTE has ever been supported. No technology has EVER used LTE for voice and CDMA (EVDO) for data on ANY phone. SVDO allowed CDMA and EVDO at the same time, SVLTE allowed LTE for data and CDMA for voice.

You obviously don't understand how cellular networks even work, or what any of the technology is, so you continue to make ignorant posts.

If your AT&T iPhone on Verizon doesn't have data while on a call, that's some sort of provisioning problem or something on Verizon's end, as VoLTE fundamentally IS data, so you ARE using data, you just can't seem to get data to work on anything else. However, at this point, you are so clueless, I really don't believe that you even have that problem, as you continually make factually incorrect statements.
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I wouldn't be surprised if Verizon's system for provisioning LTE-only phones is FUBAR, as there are so few of them on the network.

Again, get this through your head. This is a AT&T iPhone not a VERIZON iPhone. I understand it perfectly, you do not.

Prove it then otherwise? I have one right in front of me that doesn't work and Verizon said it's due to the phone itself. Please go buy an AT&T phone and show me it working.

 

[BiggAW]

Again, get this through your head. This is a AT&T iPhone not a VERIZON iPhone. I understand it perfectly, you do not.

You obviously don't understand very BASIC things about how cell phones work, you are claiming that a phone needs a CDMA radio for data to have simultaneous voice and data on LTE, which makes absolutely no sense. There is a historical precedent for CDMA voice with LTE data on SVLTE, but as far as I can find, phones stopped supporting it when Verizon went down the VoLTE path and kludge CDMA/LTE combinations were no longer needed.

If you in fact understood anything about how Verizon's LTE network works, you would understand the fact that an AT&T iPhone is 100% capable of doing simultaneous voice and data on Verizon's network, and that if it is not working, you have some sort of a provisioning problem with Verizon. In fact, if you understood anything about how VoLTE works, you would know that LTE doesn't even do voice at all, VoLTE is just a method of doing VOIP on top of LTE, using that same data that you're claiming doesn't work.

Prove it then otherwise? I have one right in front of me that doesn't work and Verizon said it's due to the phone itself. Please go buy an AT&T phone and show me it working.

Use your brain and realize that what Verizon is telling you is total BS. Verizon CSRs probably have no clue about Intel iPhones or other LTE-only phones on Verizon, as there are so few of them out there. It's possible that Verizon is actively blocking them somehow from simultaneous voice and data, but given that it would serve Verizon no purpose to do so, use Hanlon's Razor, and figure that they are simply incompetent given that this is an edge case. Of course that would require conscious, logical thought, which you are either incapable of doing, or refuse to engage in.

The HTC U11 was certified for Verizon VoLTE last year, even though it does not have a CDMA radio at all, but again, a very uncommon phone to show up on Verizon's network. They are going to have to figure their stuff out in the coming years, as there will be far more LTE-only phones launched on and certified for Verizon.

 

[FunkyTang]

Not true. It uses LTE simultaneously for both.

Should be easy to prove by performing a SpeedTest while on a call and then posting a pic.

 

[Grimham]

You obviously don't understand very BASIC things about how cell phones work, you are claiming that a phone needs a CDMA radio for data to have simultaneous voice and data on LTE, which makes absolutely no sense. There is a historical precedent for CDMA voice with LTE data on SVLTE, but as far as I can find, phones stopped supporting it when Verizon went down the VoLTE path and kludge CDMA/LTE combinations were no longer needed.

If you in fact understood anything about how Verizon's LTE network works, you would understand the fact that an AT&T iPhone is 100% capable of doing simultaneous voice and data on Verizon's network, and that if it is not working, you have some sort of a provisioning problem with Verizon. In fact, if you understood anything about how VoLTE works, you would know that LTE doesn't even do voice at all, VoLTE is just a method of doing VOIP on top of LTE, using that same data that you're claiming doesn't work.



Use your brain and realize that what Verizon is telling you is total BS. Verizon CSRs probably have no clue about Intel iPhones or other LTE-only phones on Verizon, as there are so few of them out there. It's possible that Verizon is actively blocking them somehow from simultaneous voice and data, but given that it would serve Verizon no purpose to do so, use Hanlon's Razor, and figure that they are simply incompetent given that this is an edge case. Of course that would require conscious, logical thought, which you are either incapable of doing, or refuse to engage in.

The HTC U11 was certified for Verizon VoLTE last year, even though it does not have a CDMA radio at all, but again, a very uncommon phone to show up on Verizon's network. They are going to have to figure their stuff out in the coming years, as there will be far more LTE-only phones launched on and certified for Verizon.

Again, again, again. The phone needs voLTE compatibility with Verizon's network and use HD Voice / Advanced calling features to use data/voice at the same time. The AT&T phone does NOT have this available to do it on Verizons network period. Until you can prove otherwise you have one that works, this discussion is over because I own the phone and you do not. I experienced it first hand, and you do not.

 

[VineRider]

Check post #4 in this thread https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/switched-from-at-t-to-verizon-but-i-have-a1901-model.2096933/

 

[BiggAW]

Again, again, again. The phone needs voLTE compatibility with Verizon's network and use HD Voice / Advanced calling features to use data/voice at the same time. The AT&T phone does NOT have this available to do it on Verizons network period. Until you can prove otherwise you have one that works, this discussion is over because I own the phone and you do not. I experienced it first hand, and you do not.

You continue to change your story. Now you are stating that you cannot make any phone calls, irregardless of whether you are using data at the time or not. Before you said that you cannot use data while making a phone call. So which is it? You clearly have no credibility, as you continue to argue, and yet your facts keep changing, and statements that you make don't make sense, and are illogical. Howardforums itself is a being into the ground, but there are a lot of people who know a lot of stuff over there. Go post there and they will jump all over you if you keep making contradictory and factually untrue statements.

You statement about VoLTE is factually untrue. Other people have been able to make calls on an AT&T iPhone 8/8+/X on Verizon, so they have obviously gotten VoLTE to work on Verizon's network. We also know that the phone supports VoLTE on AT&T's network, so the phone itself supports it. So it's obvious that VoLTE will work on an AT&T iPhone on Verizon, otherwise Verizon wouldn't have let them on their network in the first place, as they wouldn't be able to make a phone call, and Verizon is not going to certify a "phone" on their network that can't place a phone call.

In any case, there is clearly something wrong with how your phone is provisioned. Just because you own something doesn't mean that you can go spouting factually incorrect, illogical, and incoherent nonsense about it on the internet.

 

[Grimham]

You continue to change your story. Now you are stating that you cannot make any phone calls, irregardless of whether you are using data at the time or not. Before you said that you cannot use data while making a phone call. So which is it? You clearly have no credibility, as you continue to argue, and yet your facts keep changing, and statements that you make don't make sense, and are illogical. Howardforums itself is a being into the ground, but there are a lot of people who know a lot of stuff over there. Go post there and they will jump all over you if you keep making contradictory and factually untrue statements.

You statement about VoLTE is factually untrue. Other people have been able to make calls on an AT&T iPhone 8/8+/X on Verizon, so they have obviously gotten VoLTE to work on Verizon's network. We also know that the phone supports VoLTE on AT&T's network, so the phone itself supports it. So it's obvious that VoLTE will work on an AT&T iPhone on Verizon, otherwise Verizon wouldn't have let them on their network in the first place, as they wouldn't be able to make a phone call, and Verizon is not going to certify a "phone" on their network that can't place a phone call.

In any case, there is clearly something wrong with how your phone is provisioned. Just because you own something doesn't mean that you can go spouting factually incorrect, illogical, and incoherent nonsense about it on the internet.

Stop making up stuff. I never changed my story. I said you can't use data while on a phone call. I never said anything different from that. I've been over at HowardForums for 15 years.

Again, I'll say it. Till you post proof, which you have not. This discussion is over. I own the device, you do not.

Now you are name calling and calling insults.

 

[terraphantm]

Stop making up stuff. I never changed my story. I said you can't use data while on a phone call. I never said anything different from that. I've been over at HowardForums for 15 years.

Again, I'll say it. Till you post proof, which you have not. This discussion is over. I own the device, you do not.

Now you are name calling and calling insults.

You're not the only person on here who owns an AT&T iPhone on Verizon. You're literally the only person who can't get it to work though.

 

[Grimham]

You're not the only person on here who owns an AT&T iPhone on Verizon. You're literally the only person who can't get it to work though.

Okay, where are the others that own them say it works then?

 

[terraphantm]

Okay, where are the others that own them say it works then?

I'm one.

And here's one on HowardForums Mr. 15 year member: https://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1905347-Coverage-on-LTE-only-devices-(Intel-iPhone-8-X)

 

[Grimham]

I'm one.

And here's one on HowardForums Mr. 15 year member: https://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1905347-Coverage-on-LTE-only-devices-(Intel-iPhone-8-X)

No where in his post he talks about Data and Voice at the same time on his AT&T phone big guy. Nice try.

 

[BiggAW]

Stop making up stuff. I never changed my story. I said you can't use data while on a phone call. I never said anything different from that. I've been over at HowardForums for 15 years.

I'm not making anything up. You are. You said that the AT&T iPhone doesn't work on Verizon VoLTE. If that's true, then an AT&T iPhone on Verizon couldn't make any phone call whatsoever. You continue to change your story and make things up. The AT&T iPhone on Verizon obviously does support VoLTE, since it can make phones calls on Verizon's network, and does not have a CDMA radio.

Apparently you haven't learned anything over there since you are continuing to post illogical nonsense here.

Again, I'll say it. Till you post proof, which you have not. This discussion is over. I own the device, you do not.

I don't have to post proof. You have made a series of factually erroneous statements. We live in a world of facts and objective reality, you can't just make stuff up and then claim that you're right just because you own a certain type of iPhone. It doesn't work that way.

Now you are name calling and calling insults.

There is no other conclusion to come to when you continue to post false information, and argue incessantly that your false information is correct, when it is simply, objectively, not. You are extremely hostile, even though you continue to make factually incorrect and illogical statements. You have no ground to stand on.

No where in his post he talks about Data and Voice at the same time on his AT&T phone big guy. Nice try.

Then you explain how VoLTE can work, but yet you can't get to data at the same time. It makes absolutely no sense. Would data work when you're not on the phone? If it doesn't, maybe you're in a really congested area. Or maybe your phone isn't provisioned correctly. But either way, an AT&T iPhone on Verizon is perfectly well capable of simultaneous voice and data, that has been well established as fact.

 

[Grimham]

I'm not making anything up. You are. You said that the AT&T iPhone doesn't work on Verizon VoLTE. If that's true, then an AT&T iPhone on Verizon couldn't make any phone call whatsoever. You continue to change your story and make things up. The AT&T iPhone on Verizon obviously does support VoLTE, since it can make phones calls on Verizon's network, and does not have a CDMA radio.

Apparently you haven't learned anything over there since you are continuing to post illogical nonsense here.



I don't have to post proof. You have made a series of factually erroneous statements. We live in a world of facts and objective reality, you can't just make stuff up and then claim that you're right just because you own a certain type of iPhone. It doesn't work that way.



There is no other conclusion to come to when you continue to post false information, and argue incessantly that your false information is correct, when it is simply, objectively, not. You are extremely hostile, even though you continue to make factually incorrect and illogical statements. You have no ground to stand on.



Then you explain how VoLTE can work, but yet you can't get to data at the same time. It makes absolutely no sense. Would data work when you're not on the phone? If it doesn't, maybe you're in a really congested area. Or maybe your phone isn't provisioned correctly. But either way, an AT&T iPhone on Verizon is perfectly well capable of simultaneous voice and data, that has been well established as fact.

Like I said, till you post proof it does work simultaneous data and voice on an AT&T phone, this discussion is over. How about you ask the question on HF and see what they say? Yep, facts, one sitting in my lap.

How am I hostile when you are the one attacking me? I own the device, you don't, but you think I am trolling because you don't believe it, but I own the damn device and that is how it acts and per Verizon that is how it supposed to act. You have yet to prove otherwise other than your opinion with no facts backing anything up. You continue to be hostile yourself and call names and bullying me.

Like I said, I am done.

You have been reported.

 

[kevink2]

Verizon's network is effectively 100% overlaid in LTE, so that's not an issue anymore. Verizon never deployed Faux G like AT&T, which did support simultaneous voice and data before LTE.

Due to different bands for service, etc, I've seen areas where I had voice on 1x, but no LTE. Also areas where I had voice on LTE, but wouldn't have if I didn't have VoLTE. So it is an exaggeration to say that it isn't an issue anymore.

Plus, roaming may be a factor on Verizon postpaid. If you roam on a carrier that doesn't support VoLTE, you may not have voice.

 

[BiggAW]

Like I said, till you post proof it does work simultaneous data and voice on an AT&T phone, this discussion is over. How about you ask the question on HF and see what they say? Yep, facts, one sitting in my lap.

I don't need to ask something when I already know what the answer is. Simultaneous voice and data works just fine on a properly provisioned AT&T iPhone on Verizon.

How am I hostile when you are the one attacking me? I own the device, you don't, but you think I am trolling because you don't believe it, but I own the damn device and that is how it acts and per Verizon that is how it supposed to act. You have yet to prove otherwise other than your opinion with no facts backing anything up. You continue to be hostile yourself and call names and bullying me.

I am not attacking you, you are being extremely hostile and attacking me. I am simply stating facts, which you continue to ignore, even though you have been informed of how the AT&T iPhone works on Verizon. If your simlutaneous voice and data doesn't work, it has to be a setting or provisioning problem on Verizon.

We know the following facts:

1. AT&T iPhones work on VoLTE on AT&T.

2. AT&T iPhones work on VoLTE on Verizon.

3. Verizon uses VoLTE to deliver simultaneous voice and data.

4. An AT&T iPhone on Verizon must use VoLTE to make any phone call, since it does not have CDMA.

Therefore, any problem with simultaneous voice and data on an AT&T iPhone on Verizon is a settings or provisioning problem, since the hardware can do it, the network can do it, and we know VoLTE works.

You continue to deny these objective facts, and obfuscate with ridiculous and patently false statements. Get your story straight.

You have been reported.

So when you're wrong and want to continue changing your story, making things up, and arguing nonsensical points, you just go and report people? That makes a lot of sense.

Instead of going on a forum, complaining, making factually incorrect statements, and then changing your story over and over again, how about you dial up Verizon and figure out why your simultaneous voice and data doesn't work, if that's even the case in the first place? If it, in fact doesn't work, which I don't really believe one way or the other at this point, then they need to know about it and work to fix it so it doesn't happen to other LTE-only phones or Intel iPhones. You may need to push them hard to get to someone who knows how to deal with LTE-only phones, and the IMEI range of AT&T/T-Mobile iPhones, as there are probably very few on Verizon. But you need to have your facts straight first, which you stubbornly refuse to do, even after having the facts clearly laid out in front of you.
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Due to different bands for service, etc, I've seen areas where I had voice on 1x, but no LTE. Also areas where I had voice on LTE, but wouldn't have if I didn't have VoLTE. So it is an exaggeration to say that it isn't an issue anymore.

Yeah, that's a fair point. Before Grimham started posting factually incorrect nonsense about the Intel iPhone's simultaneous voice and data capabilities on Verizon, I posted a full a nuanced view in post 13 with all the various details of the pluses and minuses of an Intel iPhone on Verizon.

Plus, roaming may be a factor on Verizon postpaid. If you roam on a carrier that doesn't support VoLTE, you may not have voice.

Correct. Some roaming gets worse, and some gets better. I don't know if they have any LTE roaming without VoLTE, but it's certainly possible. I roamed on AT&T LTE with Sprint, and had no voice service, which was really weird.
[doublepost=1531610200][/doublepost]Remember also that Verizon is shutting down CDMA on December 31, 2019, so we're less than T minus 18 months. I don't know if they will keep a CDMA back-end up for roaming, or if all CDMA roaming goes down as well, and they flip over to VoLTE and HSPA+. My sense is that CDMA's demise is an inevitability now that Verizon is planning to go off of CDMA, it's just a matter of whether they let CDMA roaming live on for a few more years beyond the end of their own CDMA network, or if they are pushing partners like USCC to get their stuff together on deploying VoLTE. Unfortunately, because Verizon never deployed HSPA+, they will lose some extreme fringe coverage for voice/text, but will have more functioning data coverage than ever.

 

[Grimham]

I don't need to ask something when I already know what the answer is. Simultaneous voice and data works just fine on a properly provisioned AT&T iPhone on Verizon.



I am not attacking you, you are being extremely hostile and attacking me. I am simply stating facts, which you continue to ignore, even though you have been informed of how the AT&T iPhone works on Verizon. If your simlutaneous voice and data doesn't work, it has to be a setting or provisioning problem on Verizon.

We know the following facts:

1. AT&T iPhones work on VoLTE on AT&T.

2. AT&T iPhones work on VoLTE on Verizon.

3. Verizon uses VoLTE to deliver simultaneous voice and data.

4. An AT&T iPhone on Verizon must use VoLTE to make any phone call, since it does not have CDMA.

Therefore, any problem with simultaneous voice and data on an AT&T iPhone on Verizon is a settings or provisioning problem, since the hardware can do it, the network can do it, and we know VoLTE works.

You continue to deny these objective facts, and obfuscate with ridiculous and patently false statements. Get your story straight.



So when you're wrong and want to continue changing your story, making things up, and arguing nonsensical points, you just go and report people? That makes a lot of sense.

Instead of going on a forum, complaining, making factually incorrect statements, and then changing your story over and over again, how about you dial up Verizon and figure out why your simultaneous voice and data doesn't work, if that's even the case in the first place? If it, in fact doesn't work, which I don't really believe one way or the other at this point, then they need to know about it and work to fix it so it doesn't happen to other LTE-only phones or Intel iPhones. You may need to push them hard to get to someone who knows how to deal with LTE-only phones, and the IMEI range of AT&T/T-Mobile iPhones, as there are probably very few on Verizon. But you need to have your facts straight first, which you stubbornly refuse to do, even after having the facts clearly laid out in front of you.
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Yeah, that's a fair point. Before Grimham started posting factually incorrect nonsense about the Intel iPhone's simultaneous voice and data capabilities on Verizon, I posted a full a nuanced view in post 13 with all the various details of the pluses and minuses of an Intel iPhone on Verizon.



Correct. Some roaming gets worse, and some gets better. I don't know if they have any LTE roaming without VoLTE, but it's certainly possible. I roamed on AT&T LTE with Sprint, and had no voice service, which was really weird.
[doublepost=1531610200][/doublepost]Remember also that Verizon is shutting down CDMA on December 31, 2019, so we're less than T minus 18 months. I don't know if they will keep a CDMA back-end up for roaming, or if all CDMA roaming goes down as well, and they flip over to VoLTE and HSPA+. My sense is that CDMA's demise is an inevitability now that Verizon is planning to go off of CDMA, it's just a matter of whether they let CDMA roaming live on for a few more years beyond the end of their own CDMA network, or if they are pushing partners like USCC to get their stuff together on deploying VoLTE. Unfortunately, because Verizon never deployed HSPA+, they will lose some extreme fringe coverage for voice/text, but will have more functioning data coverage than ever.

As usual again you don't know the facts. You don't own the devices, you don't get to experience it. Just like you said AT&T doesn't have contracts anymore which I proved you wrong, but they do and you talk as fact and you haven't researched. And you won't prove your point with anything backing your statements up. And that is pretty funny. You have been attacking me from the start, but you say I am attacking you? You are the one that has been hostile here.

Again, I own the phone and that is how it works. Verizon said that is how it works. I have yet to change my story. You continue to make up stuff. I report people that start breaking the rules here by calling them names and insults like you did.

Until you post proof that what you say is true, to argue with people who actually own the devices and use them daily and see how they work, no one will take you seriously.

 

[kevink2]

I think it odd that Verizon's new Visible company plan supports Intel iPhone 8, 8+, and X, but doesn't support the Intel 7/7+. Probably haven't come up with the provisioning required. Since Visible is exclusively VoLTE for voice, and no CDMA, it supports simultaneous voice/data.

 

[Mrbobb]

Google your phone's model Axxxx and make sure it's compatible with Verizon. I had thought all modern phones are GSM/CMDA but seems am wrong.

 

[terraphantm]

Here’s a post on reddit from well before this thread was made where the OP confirms simultaneous voice and data worked fine

https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/comments/7c89bh/24_hours_of_gsm_unlockedintel_iphone_x_on_vzw_an/

 

[BiggAW]

As usual again you don't know the facts. You don't own the devices, you don't get to experience it. Just like you said AT&T doesn't have contracts anymore which I proved you wrong, but they do and you talk as fact and you haven't researched. And you won't prove your point with anything backing your statements up. And that is pretty funny. You have been attacking me from the start, but you say I am attacking you? You are the one that has been hostile here.

Again, I own the phone and that is how it works. Verizon said that is how it works. I have yet to change my story. You continue to make up stuff. I report people that start breaking the rules here by calling them names and insults like you did.

Until you post proof that what you say is true, to argue with people who actually own the devices and use them daily and see how they work, no one will take you seriously.

All you do is come here and argue and attack, even though you're just wrong. You're just factually wrong. I don't know why you continue to pick a fight when you have been proven wrong many times over in this thread, but yet you do.

In that thread, you either didn't read or didn't comprehend my post, if you had both read and comprehended my post, you would have read the part about retentions dredging up plans out of the system that aren't publicly available. You obviously are not debating anything about technology in good faith, you are simply here to argue and be obnoxious.

You have changed your story multiple times. First, you claimed that the phone needs something to "fall back on" in order to have simultaneous voice and data, which is factually untrue. Then, you claimed that the phone needs EVDO for data and VoLTE for voice at the same time, which no phone on Verizon has ever done. You then claimed that the Intel iPhone doesn't have VoLTE, which is patently ridiculous.

You're obviously just here to argue, as it is clear whoever at Verizon told you that an AT&T iPhone doesn't work with simultaneous voice and data either had no clue what they were talking about or was just trying to get you off the phone, and that has been made abundantly clear to you many posts ago.

No one takes you seriously, as you continue to post illogical nonsense, even though you have been proven wrong over and over and over again. So stop posting illogical nonsense.

I think it odd that Verizon's new Visible company plan supports Intel iPhone 8, 8+, and X, but doesn't support the Intel 7/7+. Probably haven't come up with the provisioning required. Since Visible is exclusively VoLTE for voice, and no CDMA, it supports simultaneous voice/data.

Verizon postpaid is the same too. I can't explain it, you'd think once they allowed Intel 8/8+/X, they would have allowed the 7/7+ as well, especially since there are 7/7+'s just about to come off of the 2-year payment plans that Verizon could try and grab versus 8/8+/X's that need to pay a significant chunk off.

Google your phone's model Axxxx and make sure it's compatible with Verizon. I had thought all modern phones are GSM/CMDA but seems am wrong.

Seriously, read the thread. The entire thread is about non-CDMA iPhones on Verizon using LTE only, plus close to two pages of Grimham arguing with me and denying reality.

 

[terraphantm]

they would have allowed the 7/7+ as well, especially since there are 7/7+'s just about to come off of the 2-year payment plans that Verizon could try and grab versus 8/8+/X's that need to pay a significant chunk off.

That seems to be a problem on Apple's end. The Intel 7/7+ refuse to install the Verizon carrier files. It's something Apple could fix, but I guess they have no incentive to.

Now that I think of it, it should be possible to get working via a jailbreak, but I guess there hasn't been enough interest.

You can get data semi-working if you manually enter some data in the carrier settings. But voice doesn't work.

 

[BiggAW]

That seems to be a problem on Apple's end. The Intel 7/7+ refuse to install the Verizon carrier files. It's something Apple could fix, but I guess they have no incentive to.

Now that I think of it, it should be possible to get working via a jailbreak, but I guess there hasn't been enough interest.

You can get data semi-working if you manually enter some data in the carrier settings. But voice doesn't work.

That makes sense from a technical perspective, I just don't understand the business dynamics behind it. Verizon is a now a big player in the iPhone market, probably second only to AT&T, and you'd think that they could throw their weight around to get the carrier file issue sorted out.

 

[Grimham]

Here’s a post on reddit from well before this thread was made where the OP confirms simultaneous voice and data worked fine

https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/comments/7c89bh/24_hours_of_gsm_unlockedintel_iphone_x_on_vzw_an/

No where in that post does he talk about testing Data and Voice at the same time. Wow, you obviously are just grasping for straws.
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All you do is come here and argue and attack, even though you're just wrong. You're just factually wrong. I don't know why you continue to pick a fight when you have been proven wrong many times over in this thread, but yet you do.

In that thread, you either didn't read or didn't comprehend my post, if you had both read and comprehended my post, you would have read the part about retentions dredging up plans out of the system that aren't publicly available. You obviously are not debating anything about technology in good faith, you are simply here to argue and be obnoxious.

You have changed your story multiple times. First, you claimed that the phone needs something to "fall back on" in order to have simultaneous voice and data, which is factually untrue. Then, you claimed that the phone needs EVDO for data and VoLTE for voice at the same time, which no phone on Verizon has ever done. You then claimed that the Intel iPhone doesn't have VoLTE, which is patently ridiculous.

You're obviously just here to argue, as it is clear whoever at Verizon told you that an AT&T iPhone doesn't work with simultaneous voice and data either had no clue what they were talking about or was just trying to get you off the phone, and that has been made abundantly clear to you many posts ago.

No one takes you seriously, as you continue to post illogical nonsense, even though you have been proven wrong over and over and over again. So stop posting illogical nonsense.



Verizon postpaid is the same too. I can't explain it, you'd think once they allowed Intel 8/8+/X, they would have allowed the 7/7+ as well, especially since there are 7/7+'s just about to come off of the 2-year payment plans that Verizon could try and grab versus 8/8+/X's that need to pay a significant chunk off.



Seriously, read the thread. The entire thread is about non-CDMA iPhones on Verizon using LTE only, plus close to two pages of Grimham arguing with me and denying reality.

You sir haven't proven anything. You attacked me from the start and then went into insults and name calling you did and anyone can go back and look. The mods even had to get on you. I have asked you at least 3 times to prove me wrong with links that back up your argument and you have not done so. I own the device again, for the 100th time. It doesn't work period. YOU DO NOT.

You were proven wrong as you said AT&T didn't have contracts and I showed you they did under special deals or circumstances. It is available to all consumers when the special deals happen. Seen it in the news papers too. Even business customers still do 2 year contracts. That is how ours work at my company. You just can't accept the fact you have been wrong.

Last I checked, you were the one no one was taking seriously on all of your other posts. Like I said many times, end of discussion but you continue to want it, and you won't prove anything with links, or evidence it actually works. It's easy, stop replying.

 

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You sir haven't proven anything. You attacked me from the start and then went into insults and name calling you did and anyone can go back and look. The mods even had to get on you. I have asked you at least 3 times to prove me wrong with links that back up your argument and you have not done so. I own the device again, for the 100th time. It doesn't work period. YOU DO NOT.

You are obviously only on here to argue, annoy, and harass. You clearly don't care about the actual topic at hand, as you refuse to acknowledge the information in many posts by myself and others, and continue to argue with objective facts. You have attacked me many times, and you refuse to LISTEN to anything that is posted. You obviously have no interest in a productive discussion about the topic at hand, otherwise you would have LISTENED to what everyone else is saying instead of simply arguing with them.

You continue to make factually incorrect statements, you have been told otherwise MANY times, and you don't listen. You are obviously here only to annoy and harass people on this forum, not for a discussion about iPhones.

You were proven wrong as you said AT&T didn't have contracts and I showed you they did under special deals or circumstances. It is available to all consumers when the special deals happen. Seen it in the news papers too. Even business customers still do 2 year contracts. That is how ours work at my company. You just can't accept the fact you have been wrong.

You completely ignored what I had said in the previous post in that thread, and now you continue to harass and annoy me for not saying something that I actually said. I'm not an idiot, I can go back and read my own posts, you think I don't remember or can't read my own posts that prove I was right, but you're wrong there again, and you were simply making inflammatory posts.

Last I checked, you were the one no one was taking seriously on all of your other posts. Like I said many times, end of discussion but you continue to want it, and you won't prove anything with links, or evidence it actually works. It's easy, stop replying.

Everyone else who has posted has clearly told you that you are WRONG, but you refuse to listen to them or myself. Instead, you just pulled something right out of your arse and now are defending it to the death, and refusing to listen to anyone who actually knows what they are talking about.

You are obviously here just trying to rile people up and make arguments in the forum, as there is no productive point to continually lying about the capability of an Intel iPhone 8 on Verizon.

You are being reported for your behavior.