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More stuff T-Mobile customers will think they're getting for free without realizing there is no such thing as "free" and everything offered is added in to the cost of their service.
I pay $100 a month for 2 lines of unlimited data, texts, and phone usage. Plus when I travel I don't worry about roaming and I get an hour of free wifi when flying and unlimited texts. I know it's not "free" and I know it's still too much, compared to the rest of the planet, but I'll take it!
 
Then Verizon or Comcast buys T-mobile. Sticky up to big guy will end. :)

How would that happen if the DOJ and FCC wouldn't bless an ATT and a MUCH weaker T-Mobile merger? It wouldn't of course. T-Mob is going to around for awhile.
 
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No announcement on pricing?

YouTube TV is $35 per month, you can share it with 6 people, and is now available in 80 metro areas (all of which offer ALL the local channels, a rarity in streaming. Most like Sling and Vue only offer one to two local channels with only the big giant cities having all locals streaming). You also get the massive backend of YouTube and I've never seen slowdowns even during big sporting events. Their unlimited DVR is also a big plus too.
Uh.... I have Youtube TV... it most certainly DOES NOT off all the local channels. It does offer all 4 major networks... but many locals are missing (at least here in Phoenix).
 
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I hope T-Mobile can pull off something unique, but dealing with the TV networks can be tough.
TV networks are dinosaurs. My kids, 11 and 8, watch YouTube. I hardly ever watch TV anymore, and that includes things like Netflix, etc. Just don't have time or interest. Honestly, it's amazing as we have more technology I find myself enjoying radio and podcasts more. And I'm a geek :)
 
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I saw a demo of Layer3 in person and it was very slick, so that's nice. But then at the time they required you to be a Comcast customer to use them, so by the time they got with RCN I had already moved to DTVN
 
How do you get it onto your TV? Will there be an app for all popular streaming boxes?

Can you access it over your current home internet provider? Or is it T-Mobile LTE wireless only?

EDIT: I did some research into Layer3 TV (the company T-Mobile acquired)

They have a proprietary set-top box and it uses your home internet. (but it's somehow tied to a local fiber backbone... which is why it's only available in certain markets.)

So unless they've changed it... this is not the normal over-the-top service like YouTubeTV, SlingTV, PlayStation Vue, etc.

Oh... and Layer3 TV is at least $90 a month.

They're not trying to be a cheaper cable company alternative... they're trying to be a better cable company, period.

"You're not going to sign up for us because you're going to save money," said Jeff Binder, co-founder and CEO of Layer3 TV. "You're going to sign up for us because you're going to get a lot more value for the same price."

"We built a proprietary network," Binder said. "The upside of that is enhanced quality and performance. The downside is you can't be everywhere."

Thoughts? Does this sound like anything T-Mobile should get their hands into?

We don't yet know what T-Mobile's Layer3 TV service will cost... but you'll still need to pay for home internet in order to use it.

While it's true that you need internet to use YouTubeTV and others... they're only around $35/mo... not $90
T-Mobile isn't going to just buy Layer 3 and keep that product as is...
If T-Mobile is going to attack cable companies, I am sure they see that they will not be able to have the customers rely on them for their ISP to stream this content either. I think T-Mobile puts out a set-top box that has LTE and/or (maybe later) 5G... with optional Wi-Fi. Charge $50 per month when bundled with wireless phone plan. Cable companies will be forced to compete!
 
I would switch to T-Mobile from Verizon if the stability is solid, and the prices are reasonable (no doubt about that part). Considering how the stability has been for my particular area, I bet this will be a huge success.

What I wonder is if they're going to be leveraging their good faith reputation right now, and offering the same exact type of service - or if they're going to try and procure the low end market, maybe with cellular connection, data limit, etc.

Edit: Just watched the youtube video. I'll have to do more research into Layer3
 
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T-Mobile isn't going to just buy Layer 3 and keep that product as is...
If T-Mobile is going to attack cable companies, I am sure they see that they will not be able to have the customers rely on them for their ISP to stream this content either. I think T-Mobile puts out a set-top box that has LTE and/or (maybe later) 5G... with optional Wi-Fi. Charge $50 per month when bundled with wireless phone plan. Cable companies will be forced to compete!

Yeah... I'm thinking they will have to do something different with it. It doesn't really make a lot of sense as is.

Good analysis... thank you. :)
 
This is pretty cool. If they can offer a locked-in, lower intro price for early adopters (like DTV Now), then this is definitely worth looking into.

Especially if I can combine it with my current T-Mo service and pay one bill.
 
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There is just too much competition for my time to pay for TV in 2017/18. Most of the channels are utter crap like ESPN which in the past I didn't think I could live without. News stations are propaganda. History Channel has deteriorated into alien documentaries and phony hunt for Hitler crap. Not interested in anything the big three networks have to offer. Not interested at all.
 
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Except that tmobile is cheaper than just about everyone else while doing it. Cheaper than verizon(but that's not hard to do), cheaper than AT&T even with my work discount. Not sure how they compare with sprint(but it's sprint, c'mon)

If all you want it cheap, T-Mobile is the way to go. If you want the most coverage and best speeds, then they're the bottom of the barrel. You get what you pay for.
 
John is a great marketing guy. TMO is still expensive. People think they are getting a great deal, but in fact the other carriers are all priced better...

I am paying $60,- tax included for two lines unlimited everything....
https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/t-mobile-one-unlimited-55

And way better speeds than I ever got on AT&T.

Can you point me to a better deal? Thanks!



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Edgy = appeals to millennials (somehow)

Chuck Taylors, so hip.
It's better than getting a Cease and Desist from AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson anytime you contact his office. Seriously, customers who try to contact Stephenson at the EO get a Cease and Desist.
 
Competition is always to our benefit. I’m looking forward to seeing what T-Mobile can do in this space.
Not if the new competitors are ISPs. This is pretty worrisome, considering T-Mobile has already been providing preferential treatment to certain streaming services.
 
If all you want it cheap, T-Mobile is the way to go. If you want the most coverage and best speeds, then they're the bottom of the barrel. You get what you pay for.
The data shows otherwise. Tmobile has been growing like crazy. And now rank the highest in terms of peak speed. And with their new low frequency spectrum they bought it increases range and speed. Especially indoors. If you have the latest supported radio in your phone.
 
As a T-Mobile customer myself, I'd only say that no, I don't ever expect truly free extras. But the real issue comes down to which specifics you get when you pay out X number of dollars for cellular service.

I recently looked at the HowardForums recommendations for best values in cell service (broken out by either single users or family plans). Despite the presence of several smaller, second-tier discount providers - it's interesting that T-Mobile still made it into their top 5 best options for family plans.

And although I'm only paying for a single line of service myself, I still don't see much justification in jumping from T-Mobile to one of the few cheaper priced plans they listed (like Republic Wireless).

The bottom line monthly bill would be lower, but I'd lose all the perks T-Mobile adds as part of its data plans which make up the difference for me (such as allowing unlimited streaming music from a large list of services). And honestly, the "T-Mobile Tuesdays" gimmick isn't half bad either. Some weeks, the "giveaways" are little more than random web-based companies trying to offer introductory prices to their services -- but other times, the giveaways are genuinely valuable. I've gotten at least 4 or 5 movie tickets for new release movies from them at prices between $3-5 each. (Just got a $5 pass for the new Star Wars movie, in fact - which I'll go see this weekend. The theater out here wants $14.95 for that ticket normally.)


More stuff T-Mobile customers will think they're getting for free without realizing there is no such thing as "free" and everything offered is added in to the cost of their service.
 
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Watching that video makes me feel like I'm at a used car dealership. What can we do to get you to subscribe today? Ugh.
 
How do you get it onto your TV? Will there be an app for all popular streaming boxes?

Can you access it over your current home internet provider? Or is it T-Mobile LTE wireless only?

EDIT:

I did some research into Layer3 TV (the company T-Mobile acquired)

They have a proprietary set-top box and it uses your home internet. (but it's somehow tied to a local fiber backbone... which is why it's only available in certain markets.)

So unless they've changed it... this is not a normal over-the-top service like YouTubeTV, SlingTV, PlayStation Vue, etc.

Oh... and Layer3 TV is at least $90 a month.

They're not trying to be a cheaper cable company alternative... they're trying to be a better cable company, period.

"You're not going to sign up for us because you're going to save money," said Jeff Binder, co-founder and CEO of Layer3 TV. "You're going to sign up for us because you're going to get a lot more value for the same price."

"We built a proprietary network," Binder said. "The upside of that is enhanced quality and performance. The downside is you can't be everywhere."

Thoughts? Does this sound like anything T-Mobile should get their hands into?

We don't yet know what T-Mobile's Layer3 TV service will cost... but you'll still need to pay for home internet in order to use it.

While it's true that you need internet to use YouTubeTV and others... they're only around $35/mo... not $90


This is great news, and I am happy to hear.


Layer-3 did it right. They deployed a TV service using IPTV, rather than legacy and proprietary copper and other fixed line ability. Because of this the TV service could easily be expanded to any other IP transport (4G, LTE, WIFI, Fiber, and of course tapped into other internet providers).


The only thing missing is a universal App framework which would allow the service onto third-party devices (Apple, Android, Roku, etc.). That will cost them 6 months of development.


Thinking of the future we are seeing early talks about 5G internet which are being targeted for wireless home internet service. T-Mobile, AT&T and Verizon are the current pushers.


The beauty of this announcement is “competition”. Most of us still live in locations where Internet and TV services are limited, and the cost of running new copper or fiber to every home is simply too expensive considering the road construction, permits and other regulation. Cheaper and easier to stand up a new cell tower. For me, it’s Comcast or AT&T DSL. UVerse has been killed leaving only Comcast for me to choose. Of course there is Satellite, but they are just as bad.


Now wait. 2018, 2019…We will have 2-3 5G wireless provers advertising their internet for our homes. AT&T acquired Directv, killed Uverse…and the Directv CEO announced that DirectvNOW is their future for both ATT and Directv. Once AT&T delivers their 5G home internet you can bet they will have some plan to offer their DirectvNOW IPTV service as a bundle and will not hit your data caps.


Verizon also has plans to expand their FIOS IPTV service to the broader internet, and is also screaming about their 5G home internet service.


Now, T-Mobile got wise and realized they need a TV provider, as AT&T and Verizon already have theirs…And T-Mobile is talking about their 5G home internet service.


What all this translates to is…Comcast, Cox, Charter and the other cable company losers with their copper platforms are about to lose a lot of customers over the next 1-2 years.


I have T-Mobile service. Not perfect, but it offers far more than Verizon and AT&T. And, given I use WIFI-Calling for 80 percent the time…The weak cell signal is often not a problem. Soon to be solved with their recently deployed 600Mhz band making them the same as Verizon and AT&T.


Add TV service to this and a 1000Mbps 5G internet service in my home with a very fast upload speed (100-500Mbps)….Comcast and others will get their teeth kicked in.


We are witnessing the birth of internet 3.0….
 
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