Wow, by that logic you see no value in a retina iPhone or iPad, or MacBook Pro. LOL
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T-Mobile Introduces $70 Unlimited Data Plan, But HD Video is $25 Extra
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Wow, by that logic you see no value in a retina iPhone or iPad, or MacBook Pro. LOL
He's raising the issue on ROI. QHD on phones is a thing, but there's improvement over that. Restricting phones to 6" of active view to keep size and weight down while increasing pixel density can result in clearer images, however, at some point that becomes moot. At which point, there's little benefit. 480p on a phone is a bit hard to distinguish from HD/720p. However, that really depends on the video source and if it was taken with a camera, what the recording resolution was, so to speak. Though there is the issue of sound, as Youtube, for example, provides a different sound file for 360p, 480p, and 720p and above is another file.
This TMO announcement is interesting. A bit silly, but also because now I'm curious what the bulk of their customers will be doing. The majority of TMO's customers suffer from poor credit and or are from lower socioeconomic areas. TMO's 40/month plan was rather good for these individuals that needed a reliable service without having to use TMO's second, or rather third rate service, MPCS.
This TMO announcement is interesting. A bit silly, but also because now I'm curious what the bulk of their customers will be doing. The majority of TMO's customers suffer from poor credit and or are from lower socioeconomic areas. TMO's 40/month plan was rather good for these individuals that needed a reliable service without having to use TMO's second, or rather third rate service, MPCS.
Love it. You said what everyone else was thinking. Interested in a job starting January 20, 2017? ;-)
No. Going into politics would mean a lower quality of life, and I don't quite fancy the ginormous cut in income.
It was /s by the way ;-) I don't think you can just say you want to be president and make it so. LOL
Well, Trump won't ever make it to the white house. Let's get that straight. If he did, it'd become a bordello by the end of the first week. And two, I could never do presidency. Mostly because I'm foreign born.
Aren't UK providers "constantly forced to update" as well? Also, the US may have more landmass, but it also has a lot more mobile subscribers (by about 4x), which means there's a lot more revenue to be had. UK's average subscriber density is a bit higher, but not by that much. And if you subtracted the large swaths of land in and around the Rockies where there's pretty much no service anyway, the density is probably just about the same. So, like I said, scale.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0934666.html
650 people per square mile = population density of the UK
84 people per square mile = population density of the US
3,539,225 square miles = size of US
382,894 square miles = entire size of Rocky Mountains (including the Canadian parts)
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3,156,331 square mies = size of the US minus the entire size of the Rockies
93 people per square mile = population density of the US, minus the entire size of the Rockies.
650 people per square mile vs 93 people per square mile doesn't seem like the population density is the same?
Finally. Someone else said it too.
TMobile loves to pray on the lower class.
I find it ironic that the TMobile CEO trashes Verizon and At&t for nickel and diming, yet they're doing the exact same thing.
This is so ridiculous.
I can't imagine the demographic for this plan... $110 a month for unlimited sub-standard carrier (yeah I said it). Most people who will accept a substandard carrier will get MetroPCS or Boost Mobile or Cricket for a fraction of the cost. LOL
How "nose in the air" elitist to say such a thing! A rich sucker who lives in a major metro area and subscribes to Verizon and pays more than $320 per month/4 lines even if there is no job/recreation related travel around the USA is "superior", while a "poor" subscriber to T-Mobile or Metro PCS, who has no use for cell phone service outside the metro of domicile and pays $30/month/line (including tax with Metro), is "lower" in class?
Only when entertainment value add-ons like 1080 HD are subscribed does T-Mobile even seem like they "nickle-and-dimed" the customers. 2, 6 or 10 GB level unlimited means just that - chose your level and stay! And, no overages!
There is a margin between Verizon and the rest, but not so much of late when AT&T and T-Mobile are the group. Sprint is way behind and sucks in customer service, even worse than AT&T.
It's a metaphor, you numptie. Make small enough changes and people will overlook them. Make a big change, and people are able to notice them and react quickly. TMO's plan was to make a big change, then a small change and then more changes to woo the people. What they're doing is selling the same service for a higher access fee to make back what they initially lost. The fact that people thought that TMO was doing a 180 of the market and doing what's never been done were fools from the start.
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TMO has relaxed policies during their initial credit check of a customer. They also offer far more but not financially sound methods of acquiring service. Verizon and ATT do not operate under such relaxed policies. TMO also had cheaper plans that offered more than the others. The others also often require hefty deposits if credit is too low or their file is too thin. The deposits is often returned after a calendar year of on time payments and other adherence, and it isn't unheard of for a family plan to require a deposit exceeding $1,000. TMO dumped their down payment but require a large percentage of down payment for phones if the price of the phone is high or a nominal payment if the phone is on the cheaper end, $280 and below. It's more, or shall I say it was more advantageous for those who were in a lower income bracket or had troubled credit to go with TMO over Verizon or ATT.
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Land mass is important because there are still places "in the middle of nowhere" that need to get coverage. We just traveled coast to coast via car and went for hundreds of miles where there was virtually no civilization nearby. In our total of 3300 miles (each way) we didn't have signal for s total of about an hour. We weren't able to stream for s total of about five hours. UK is about 95000 square miles. USA is over three million.
You can also look at population density as a guide. UK has a population density of over four times that of the US. Much of that has to do with the fact that the US has large uninhabited patches. But that just adds to the argument that there is that much more land to cover. The interstates are pretty well blanketed and reach pretty much everywhere.
Edit: I guess a better comparison was already done.
I'm not here to fight for these companies but I feel like most people complaining take these things completely out of perspective. It's not as simple as "x country has it cheaper. Get it together USA".
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Ok, 60 million people? So the country is slightly bigger than Florida in miles^2 and has a population as big as NY and California.... Thats only two States! American has 50. Dont forget to consider the distances we have to cover, other utilities involved in maintaining network infrastructure, and different State laws on top of Federal laws carriers have to follow... America is at least 25 times larger than the UK and we pay for our services...
WOW this thread turned a little racist, if he was really speaking his mind he would of said in the African American areas is where T mobile sells their plans. Who cares what T Mobile caters to the $70 unlimited is a good plan for some of us, if it doesn't fit your needs move on. No need for class and race insults.
I was gonna say am I the only one put off by these ridiculous comments? 2016 and your carrier now determines your class and worth? You guys are messed up. I think all the 4 major carriers are trying to reach across more demographics, Verizon and AT&T just do not nearly have to try as hard for this inroad considering their rates and how many customers they already have. And even if T-Mobile was trying to reach further into those markets, good for them it's not like EVERYONE doesn't need decent cell service there's no attempt by the big 2 for such a thing until recently maybe.
He says it in the video that for $20 you can add a Unlimited data for your tablet.
I don't really care about HD on a tablet and definitely don't care about it for a phone... do you know what the limited Binge is? If it still has it so I can tether to my iPad and watch Binge on Demand this isn't so bad. I rarely tether to surf anyway. But Tethering to watch video on a bigger device even at 480p is a big deal!
I hope they keep the Simple Choice plan as an option, since this is significantly more expensive. I currently have 5 phones:
Simple Choice: $50 + $30 + $10+ $10+ $10 = $110
T-Mobile ONE: $70 + $50 + $20+ $20+ $20 = $180
With taxes and fees, that's at least $80 more per month, with no noticeable advantage.
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I'm not sure who would choose this plan over the Simple Choice but, as for choosing T-Mobile, there are very valid reasons.
Simple Choice: $50 + $30 + $10+ $10+ $10 = $110
T-Mobile ONE: $70 + $50 + $20+ $20+ $20 = $180
With taxes and fees, that's at least $80 more per month, with no noticeable advantage.
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Depending on where you live, T-Mobile may have better coverage than Verizon, AT&T or Sprint. I know it's true for me. And unlimited data when I travel abroad is just icing on the cake.
I'm not sure who would choose this plan over the Simple Choice but, as for choosing T-Mobile, there are very valid reasons.
Not sure what kind of insult a "numptie" is, but the fact that you're using an illustration that has no bearing in reality doesn't work if it's a metaphor or not. Of course I understood the point, but the story given about the frog isn't remotely true. That was my point, not that I didn't understand the purpose of what you meant.
I don't believe "Binge On" is part of the new $70 unlimited plan. It is on the old $95 unlimited plan. That's the bummer as I tether to my iPad via Binge On also. If they included Binge On for iPad tethering I'd be all over it.
$20 as an addon is not terrible, but you're still being limited to SD. I don't think you will be able to tether your ipad anymore unless you either pay $15 for 5gb of tethering, or the $20 unlimited. But I'm not 100% sure.