Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
I checked it too but I'm not sure that's true since it always mark carrier marked phones as locked
 
Can you check these for me:

013790000685843
013790002794189

I checked it too but I'm not sure that's true since it always mark carrier marked phones as locked

I have access to the Apple GSX system, and that's what these show. It also shows they're purchased from a T-Mobile USA store, so that's why they're locked. If I can get IMEI or Serial of one purchased at Apple Retail Store then I can put this one to bed and say for sure...

As of now-

Buy it from T-Mobile Store or tmobile.com - the phone is LOCKED
Pretty sure if you buy from Apple, that it's unlocked.
 
pCXf3ne.png


Looks like he hasn't activated it....
 
Pretty sure if you buy from Apple, that it's unlocked.

I don't know what makes you think that way. The only iPhones Apple are selling on their website today are all locked phones from all the carriers.

What makes you think T-Mobile is special?
 
I don't know what makes you think that way. The only iPhones Apple is selling on their website today are all locked phones from all the carriers.

What makes you think T-Mobile is special?

Because when you order a T-Mobile Phone on Apple.com, it says T-Mobile Unlocked.
 
Okay, this is where customers are misled.

It doesn't matter if it says unlocked. Unlocked can mean anything when you're dealing with a carrier. And every carrier has different rules about what unlocked means, but there's one thing in common, it's not unlocked.

If you look back a few pages, people have bought the T-Mobile model and successfully activated/used an AT&T SIM. Can't really do that unless it's unlocked now, can you?
 
Okay, this is where customers are misled.

T-Mobile unlocked is not the same as genuine unlocked. You have to call T-Mobile to get them to unlock it, they may or may not do it and it may or may not work with other carriers.

Every carrier has their own unlock policy and they are all different.

This is the reason I want a IMEI from someone who purchased from Apple so I can run it through Apple's system and it will tell me what the policy is. If the policy is "Retail Unlock." or "Unlock." then it is, indeed, as good as the unlocked version that is yet unavailable, and won't need any further action from them, and thus the only reason they stick T-Mobile's name on it is because it contains the nano SIM.
 
This is the reason I want a IMEI from someone who purchased from Apple so I can run it through Apple's system and it will tell me what the policy is. If the policy is "Retail Unlock." or "Unlock." then it is, indeed, as good as the unlocked version that is yet unavailable, and won't need any further action from them, and thus the only reason they stick T-Mobile's name on it is because it contains the nano SIM.

It's still not that genuine world phone that only Apple sells.

I think we're getting mixed up with what people actually want. I, myself don't want to buy a phone with a carrier name attached for any reason. I don't care.
 

Yes, when a carrier tells you the phone is unlocked and then they fill you in on their policy, you'll feel like you've been trolled too. Some people will HAVE to learn the hard way. Then they deserve what they get.

It's out of my hands, and I'm waiting until Apple sells the real unlocked phone like they are doing with the 5c.

You can keep your T-Mobile phone.
 
It's still not that genuine world phone that only Apple sells.

I think we're getting mixed up with what people actually want. I, myself don't want to buy a phone with a carrier name attached for any reason. I don't care.

You are a better person than I am. :cool:
 
WTF!!!! Stop this discussion. Get the UNLOCKED T-Mobile phone and if when you put your ATT sim it does not work, just return it!!! Maybe by having a bunch of retruns Apple will learn a lesson and be more clear about what an Unlocked TMobile phones means. Also, what is the big deal for not selling unlocked phones directly from day one? If I want to pay $800 for an unlocked phone I should be able to buy it.
 
It's still not that genuine world phone that only Apple sells.

I won't argue a whole lot here, because it seems like it's turning into a black hole, but in my system (and I have authorization from Apple to replace iPhones under warranty), the PHONE is IDENTICAL whether it is AT&T/TMOBILE. The activation policy is what locks the phone down, and what determines that. Like I said, if the policy is one of the unlocks, then it's as good as it can get. My phone will be here Wednesday from Apple.com, and I will post what my results are.

Until then...
 
It's still not that genuine world phone that only Apple sells.

I think we're getting mixed up with what people actually want. I, myself don't want to buy a phone with a carrier name attached for any reason. I don't care.

That is not true.

The Apple Unlocked iPhone, AT&T full priced contract free from an Apple store and the T-Mobile w/SIM and SIM free from an Apple store are the exact same models.

----------

I won't argue a whole lot here, because it seems like it's turning into a black hole, but in my system (and I have authorization from Apple to replace iPhones under warranty), the PHONE is IDENTICAL whether it is AT&T/TMOBILE. The activation policy is what locks the phone down, and what determines that. Like I said, if the policy is one of the unlocks, then it's as good as it can get. My phone will be here Wednesday from Apple.com, and I will post what my results are.

Until then...
From Apple retail store: AT&T full priced no contract = Unlocked
From Apple retail & online store: T-Mobile full priced = Unlocked

Momoruno is trolling.
 
That is not true.

The Apple Unlocked iPhone, AT&T full priced contract free from an Apple store and the T-Mobile w/SIM and SIM free from an Apple store are the exact same models.

----------


From Apple retail store: AT&T full priced no contract = Unlocked
From Apple retail & online store: T-Mobile full priced = Unlocked

Momoruno is trolling.

How is it trolling when you can call any Apple store in the country and they will tell you the policy that directly contradicts what you just wrote? Just because you buy it full priced will not make it unlocked. You must be new.
 
How is it trolling when you can call any Apple store in the country and they will tell you the policy that directly contradicts what you just wrote? Just because you buy it full priced will not make it unlocked. You must be new.

This is my last post to a troll.

I've called plenty of stores and I'm told one thing to have something else happen when I arrive in store. Half of them don't know what they are talking about just as you don't know what you're talking about.

FACTS COUNT:

From Apple retail store: AT&T full priced no contract = Unlocked
From Apple retail & online store: T-Mobile full priced = Unlocked

All are the same model phone and support the same bands

I'm new here? I have 1,000 posts compared to your 23.

I'm done with you.
 
How is it trolling when you can call any Apple store in the country and they will tell you the policy that directly contradicts what you just wrote? Just because you buy it full priced will not make it unlocked. You must be new.

Than what do you want us to do? Should we start a revolution? Start storming Apple stores around the country and demand unlock iPhones 5s. Better yet starting today I'm going to start using a plastic cup and a string for all my calls just to stick it to them.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.