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T-Mobile is Fantastic!
Lol so AT&T by your opinion was looking for an excuse to end subsidies and it had nothing to do with reacting to the success tmobile was having with uncarrier. Lol. Wow u are def a troller.
U just can't accept that AT&T changed because if "lowly" tmobile. U try to justify that AT&T wanted to do away with subsidies anyway even though doing so means less money for the carriers and that it's "odd" that AT&T reacted like they did. But guess what, actions speak louder than words. AT&T reacted to tmobile, changed their services, and more customers are saving money. You can credit tmobile for changing the us industry, because they were the first of the national carriers to do it. The others directly or indirectly followed.
Again why are u in this thread again, other than to troll?
Lol so AT&T by your opinion was looking for an excuse to end subsidies and it had nothing to do with reacting to the success tmobile was having with uncarrier. Lol. Wow u are def a troller.
U just can't accept that AT&T changed because if "lowly" tmobile. U try to justify that AT&T wanted to do away with subsidies anyway even though doing so means less money for the carriers and that it's "odd" that AT&T reacted like they did. But guess what, actions speak louder than words. AT&T reacted to tmobile, changed their services, and more customers are saving money. You can credit tmobile for changing the us industry, because they were the first of the national carriers to do it. The others directly or indirectly followed.
Again why are u in this thread again, other than to troll?
Look AutoUnion39 and BigAW, we get it. AT&T/Verizon have networks that are bigger than T-Mobile's/Sprint's networks, but that doesn't make them any better. All carriers have pros and cons and you two have to release that we all have choice in this world. Trolling on these forums about how AT&T/Verizon are kings and everyone on T-Mobile/Sprint is a naysayer is ridiculous, especially on a T-Mobile oriented section. 
Most T-Mobile customers must be very happy with the recent bump in high-speed data allocations. Only people who want unlimited and didn't sign up prior to the price bump are worse off.
I think that MVNOs are cheaper still, but the trade off seems to be lower network priority and/or throttled speeds.
I think that MVNOs are cheaper still, but the trade off seems to be lower network priority and/or throttled speeds.
You said "T-Mobile needs to upgrade EDGE in order to compete" and now you are saying that it won't solve their coverage issue.
Funny. You can't just gloss over the facts and cherry pick what I say.
Yes, EDGE needs to be upgraded, but as I said, that's not enough. Their cell grid isn't up to the same density as the big guys (even Sprint.) With LTE being a very fragile airlink, the experience will be just as bad as it currently is. Hot spots of LTE with holes of EDGE between sites.
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Sorry, I wasn't aware this was TMoRumors.Trolling on these forums about how AT&T/Verizon are kings and everyone on T-Mobile/Sprint is a naysayer is ridiculous, especially on a T-Mobile oriented section.
I must have thought we were in the MacRumors iPhone section where we discuss ALL carriers equally. I'm so dumb.
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You're in a thread about how people are enjoying tmobile and the changes they're making. You should start a thread about how u little u think of tmobile and how highly u think of AT&T/Verizon. Then u wouldn't be trolling.
Who cares about the coverage MAp. Do you go to the middle of nowhere in North Dakota or some other random ass part of the US? You live in a City or a place with good coverage and it works fine. I work in Consulting and travel 70% of my time for work and I have yet to have a problem. I do ask for the wifi password when I go to places but I did the same with AT&T. No carrier is perfect and all have dead zones in certain parts of the country. The US is huge. Just love how people knock something they don't have or haven't tried.
The coverage is fine especially if you are in the east coast. Just a couple random states I would never ever want to go to have bad T-Mobile coverage. It says it has bad coverage in Washington and California. I have been to both multiple times and it was fine.
The coverage is fine especially if you are in the east coast. Just a couple random states I would never ever want to go to have bad T-Mobile coverage. It says it has bad coverage in Washington and California. I have been to both multiple times and it was fine.
Hey T-Mobile guys, I'm about to add a line of service fromT-Mobile and was considering getting the Google Play edition new HTC One (M8) and was wondering if that phone will work good on T-Mobile. Some guy in this thread was saying t-Mobile is getting new towers or bands or something this year and I want to make sure that phone will take full advantage of it. And yes, I still have a Verizon iPhone 5s so don't flame me.
Of course it will work for T-Mobile. Just buy the GSM one. I'm even considering buying one as well. I love my iPhone 5 but need something new
If it didn't have B12 support, I'd skip it. I can't find tech specs on the TMo variant, but the GE and AT&T ones don't.
GSM arena says it has Bands 4 and 17, T-Mobile's 700 mhz spectrum will use Band 12 so that's a no go on the carrier branded version when it comes to the new spectrum T-Mobile has acquired.
No details on the Google Play editions yet.
With bands 4 and 17 you'll get the same service that T-Mobile gets right now with their other phones. Meaning it will work will if T-Mobile current offers good service in your area. So check the coverage maps and see how things look in your area first.
I just noticed your uninformed comment.
Start here:
http://arstechnica.com/information-...will-help-customers-switch-to-small-carriers/
Basically what this means is that AT&T agreeing to support Band 12 allows smaller carriers will be able to roam on AT&T and keep their devices should they move from AT&T to the smaller carrier.
The reason this benefits T-Mobile is because, prior to AT&T agreeing to support the band, smaller carriers were hesitant to roll out LTE using the band due to fear of difficulty in procuring that support it. With a large carrier like AT&T now on board, those carriers have started to roll out LTE using this Band. T-Mobile in turn will be able to secure LTE roaming agreements with those smaller carriers in order to enhance service area of 700A for their customers.
In terms of acquiring more A Block spectrum (the licenses T-Mobile is buying cover 158 million POPs and 70 percent of its customer base) Ray said that T-Mobile is interested in the "the right deal at the right time." Ray also said that T-Mobile will look to roaming opportunities with smaller wireless carriers, largely thanks to the 700 MHz interoperability deal struck between AT&T and smaller carriers that hold A Block spectrum. U.S. Cellular (NYSE:USM) and C Spire Wireless are two of the larger A Block licensees.
Read more: T-Mobile CFO: $10 price increase on unlimited plans needed to recoup investment - FierceWireless http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...ed-recoup-investment/2014-03-10#ixzz2x0RzIGQH
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Nice. I swear it's like they have blinders on. They should be thanking tmobile. Everyone is benefitting.
This is what the google play edition specs say
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=htc_m8
I can read a map and see that with T-Mobile, they don't have 3G or 4G in most places. AT&T and Verizon do. I don't need their service to realize how horrible it is. In fact, I have a T-Mobile SIM in my iPad, and it gets horrible service.
T-Mobile caused AT&T to unbundle the phone subsidies in order to look more competitive. Their new plans are far better, and I guess we can thank T-Mobile for that, even though if you factor in the subsidies, they aren't any cheaper than what we had before. AT&T and Verizon know that they don't have to stoop down to match Sprint and T-Mobile, as most of the customers on AT&T and Verizon are on AT&T or Verizon because they want their phone to work, not just in some places, but virtually everywhere.
T-Mobile's cell density is excellent in many areas, the problem is that it goes from excellent to nothing... AT&T is very good everywhere, while Verizon is stretching it thin but has coverage everywhere... at least that's how it is down here in CT.
Some random ass part of the US like I-95 between Boston and New Haven? or large areas in CT that are commuting distance to NYC? These areas have EDGE service. Also, what about when you're traveling? That's when coverage and data speed are most important, and only AT&T or Verizon are going to get you 3G/4G data, or likely data at all when you're traveling around.
HAHA east coast coverage on T-Mobile? LOL. CT, RI, and MA have HUGE holes of EDGE or nothing. What a JOKE. AT&T is already 100% LTE in CT and RI, and over 95% in MA.
Smaller carriers that use Band 12 can roam on AT&T's Band 17 now, as 17 is a subset of 12. This means AT&T phones will support 12, which will allow bigger scales of economy for handset makers so that the smaller carriers using Band 12 will be able to buy phones without running into the problems that USCC has. However, it has the side affect of putting B12 AT&T phones out there that could theoretically roam on carriers with B12 LTE, including USCC, if they can cut roaming deals.
It's largely irrelevant to T-Mobile, because T-Mobile, at half the size of AT&T or Verizon is still more than large enough to get phones custom built for it's network. They already have a roaming agreement with AT&T that they barely even use. Also, T-Mobile alone would have drive up the scales of economy to the point where smaller carriers could use 700A for LTE, even without AT&T on board. It's still a good thing that AT&T is going to finally get on board, like they should have several years ago, but it doesn't really affect T-Mobile in a material way.
The thing is, when AT&T switches over to B12 devices, AT&T can start buying 700A spectrum, so that will put AT&T's deep pockets in direct competition with AT&T. USCC and C-Spire do have 700A networks, but they are largely areas that AT&T doesn't cover anyways, and there are already GSM roaming options in those areas (including USCC's own GSM roamer network that was built for AT&T in New Hampshire and Maine).
I have no idea what any of this means...
Basically Im considering these phones to use on T-Mobile
Samsung Galaxy S5 T-Mobile Edition
new HTC One (M8) Google Play Edition
Nexus 5 from Google Play store or T-Mobile (not sure if there is a difference)
Sony Xperia Z2
Like I said I already have a iPhone on Verizon Im looking for a phone to use at work to stream hockey games, but hearing about these new bands or whatever T-Mobile is getting I want my phone to be NOWproof AND future proof since Im wont be upgrading for a long time.
Thanks for your help.
The new band that TMo will be using is called B12 or Band 12/700A. You will need a phone that supports that band to future proof.
I've been reading conflicting specs on the internet. Engadget says the new One supports it. Everywhere says no.
You say these two things, while ironically quoting posts of mine stating that my wife and I have had almost no problems with T-Mobile and that I can count the times we haven't had LTE or HSPA+ on one hand. But visiting 8 separate markets, stretching from the Rockies to the Gulf and Atlantic coasts, in 6 months apparently doesn't count as travelling.
As for Verizon, I was prepared to jump to them if T-Mobile didn't work out. But that wasn't necessary. For some reason that seems to cause issues for you on some level.
I can read a map too. And when I look at T-Mobile's map I see that every place I actually go to, and the roads between, have good LTE or 4G service. I have also tested this coverage and found the map to be accurate in this regard. I'm willing to admit that my experience won't be the same as that of everyone else. All I, and many others in this thread, have ever said is that T-Mobile works very well FOR ME. Not "good enough for the money I'm saving," but very good in its own right. I also admit that for others, in other parts of the country, that may not be the case. Yet is seems as though you can't accept this.
I wonder. Are you willing to admit that maybe not everyone has as bad of an experience on T-Mobile as you have? That it's ok for people who actually get good service from T-Mobile to be happy with it? That maybe T-Mobile's coverage in other parts of the country is better than it is in your neck of the woods? And perhaps the US is larger than just New York and New England? Here's a hint, these are all things that a reasonable and rational person would admit are either true or at least possible.
I did switch to T-Mobile a year ago and it was the best decision I have made.
I have LTE in 99% of the places I go to. They have the front range of Colorado amazingly covered.
Your statement is false.
That's just it. He doesn't have T-Mobile or even tried it. He is going by a map that he can read and what his friends say. He isn't credible. At least Autounion34 does have T-Mobile service in his car. He is credible more than BiggAW.
Switched to tmobile over the weekend from Verizon. Was planning to get the nexus 5, but changed my mind, eventually got the lg g2. The phone didn't want to sync music with my car, which I didn't have a problem with my iPhone 5. Took it back and now I have a 5s! The reps were very helpful, patient, and broke everything down. Customer service even gave me a $50 bill credit when I had to return my g2.
As far as coverage, they are very good in my area. About the same as Verizon. Plus, now I have unlimited everything!
As far as coverage, they are very good in my area. About the same as Verizon. Plus, now I have unlimited everything!
On the freeway, I have hit 4G a few times, and if I am inside a Target or something I hit EDGE sometimes, but that only the places my AT&T and Sprint friends have trouble too.
Very rarely have I ever hit hit below 4G and both times that happened, it was driving through a gaping chasm between civilizations (northeast Ohio), and even then, the coverage dropped for just a moment. After than, full bars, LTE speed, etc etc.
Very rarely have I ever hit hit below 4G and both times that happened, it was driving through a gaping chasm between civilizations (northeast Ohio), and even then, the coverage dropped for just a moment. After than, full bars, LTE speed, etc etc.
I feel sad that you have so much hatred towards a COMPANY.
I mean come on, I don't hate AT&T/Verizon, but I do hate the crap that is told to me by people, especially people like you.
If you don't like T-Mobile, switch. Stay with AT&T or Verizon. They work for you? Great. T-Mobile works for ~50 million people in the USA and still growing.
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