Carrier T-Mobile is Fantastic!

[F123D]

There's a thread over at Howards Forum saying T-Mobile will be discontinuing their Advantage Program. There's some confusion whether T-Mobile will be removing everyone's discount or whether they're no longer offering discounts but everyone currently getting one will be grandfathered in.

 

[2298754]

How is that massive amounts of edge?

Yup. All that EDGE out there must be just a huge myth.

2G = blue

 

[CrzyP]

T-Mobile is Fantastic!

There's a thread over at Howards Forum saying T-Mobile will be discontinuing their Advantage Program. There's some confusion whether T-Mobile will be removing everyone's discount or whether they're no longer offering discounts but everyone currently getting one will be grandfathered in.

Yeah I saw that too. TMo is changing and it bothers me. Even though I'm grandfathered in, $20 unlimited 4g is now dead for new customers, the old better Jump! is now dead, and now they're killing off corporate discounts. Allegedly. TMo has the best discount around. At least for me. It's a applied to the entire plan, not just the data plan like AT&T.

What is sneaky about these changes is they aren't being boasted about like everything else revolutionary TMo does. TMo is starting to piss me off with these sleazy practices.

 

[keitarou]

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...mpetitive-carriers-lte-roaming-hub/2014-03-26

While this is a Sprint article, it does mention T-Mobile. This will help expand coverage.

 

[dmk1974]

I just switched from AT&T to T-Mobile a couple weeks ago and so far have been happy with the service and coverage. No issues.

HOWEVER, I won't be getting my first full bill until a week or two from now and am now concerned about the 15% corporate discount that I am supposed to be receiving. That discount (roughly an extra $21 off my bill) is a fair portion of the calculation that influenced me to move from AT&T to T-Mobile. When I signed up in-store, there was no mention of it going away or anything and they even scanned a copy of my work ID so it would get entered into the system. I guess I'll find out in a couple weeks, but if the discount is not there, I'm going to be pretty pissed off.

 

[jnpy!$4g3cwk]

Uh Verizon AT&T and sprint reacted. Even if u say Verizon reacted to AT&T, it still started with tmobile. Sorry but Verizon AT&T and sprint didn't just do these things for nothing. They reacted to tmobiles moves because they were successful. You like separating the phone from the plan, great you can credit tmobile for doing it before the other 3 on a postpaid level in the us

I still have a soft spot for Sprint. They were the first carrier with "nationwide roaming" so you could use your phone anywhere without getting gouged and the first with nationwide "free" long distance IIRC. Sprint should have found a way to slide over to GSM.

I'm on T-Mobile now for five years, and for the last five years it has all been GSM and GSM/LTE, yes, moving SIMs between unlocked phones when convenient, and T-Mobile is definitely the cheapest, but, Sprint was always nice to me. Verizon and AT&T (mostly used through work) have always been the ones to lock in their customers and charge a lot more. Competition is good.

 

[patt2k]

Your picture changed since the first time it was posted.

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I get 55+ down on verizon lte.

Well aren't you cool sherlock I git 83 mbps on VZW LTE and what about it?
I am in NYC and a lot of places LTE from VZW is just not good.

 

[CEmajr]

Just logged into my account a little while ago and noticed that they increased the tethering limit from 2.5GB to 3.0GB. I wasn't aware that was one of the changes to the $20 unlimited plan. Not that I'm complaining or anything.

 

[I7guy]

Well aren't you cool sherlock I git 83 mbps on VZW LTE and what about it?
I am in NYC and a lot of places LTE from VZW is just not good.

That's really great, my cell tower is jealous. No I'm not really cool, but very suave.

 

[patt2k]

That's really great, my cell tower is jealous. No I'm not really cool, but very suave.

That's alright.

I only hit this speed in ONE place where barely anyone lives there so I don't really care lol

 

[BiggAW]

If it's true, prove it. I've proved it's false because I have LTE everywhere I go in Colorado. How is that massive amounts of edge?

WHAT? You are completely full of ****. Go LOOK at the maps. T-Mobile has MASSIVE amounts of EDGE and no service. MASSIVE. That is an empirical, undeniable fact, no matter what statements you post about some town in Colorado. If you actually LOOK at the map, you will see that T-Mobile's coverage in Colorado is HORRIBLE. AT&T has easily 3-4x the 3G, probably more than that, Verizon a bit more (although the corner with Viaero is roaming 3G now for AT&T). Most of the state isn't even covered AT ALL by T-Mobile, EDGE or otherwise. It's PATHETIC.

If you don't like T-Mobile, switch. Stay with AT&T or Verizon. They work for you? Great. T-Mobile works for ~50 million people in the USA and still growing.

There are always people who will buy low-priced, low-quality products or services whether out of necessity or out of cheapness. It doesn't mean it's a good product or service.

 

[Truefan31]

WHAT? You are completely full of ****. Go LOOK at the maps. T-Mobile has MASSIVE amounts of EDGE and no service. MASSIVE. That is an empirical, undeniable fact, no matter what statements you post about some town in Colorado. If you actually LOOK at the map, you will see that T-Mobile's coverage in Colorado is HORRIBLE. AT&T has easily 3-4x the 3G, probably more than that, Verizon a bit more (although the corner with Viaero is roaming 3G now for AT&T). Most of the state isn't even covered AT ALL by T-Mobile, EDGE or otherwise. It's PATHETIC.







There are always people who will buy low-priced, low-quality products or services whether out of necessity or out of cheapness. It doesn't mean it's a good product or service.

Yeah you're def trolling in this thread.

 

[2298754]

Yeah you're def trolling in this thread.

Except he hasn't said one false thing in his reply...

 

[flxglr]

WHAT? You are completely full of ****. Go LOOK at the maps. T-Mobile has MASSIVE amounts of EDGE and no service. MASSIVE. That is an empirical, undeniable fact, no matter what statements you post about some town in Colorado. If you actually LOOK at the map, you will see that T-Mobile's coverage in Colorado is HORRIBLE. AT&T has easily 3-4x the 3G, probably more than that, Verizon a bit more (although the corner with Viaero is roaming 3G now for AT&T). Most of the state isn't even covered AT ALL by T-Mobile, EDGE or otherwise. It's PATHETIC.

Honestly I dont know why I or anyone else bothers to respond to you, because its very clear that you are not budging from your irrationality or ignorance. But regardless...


I did look at the maps, the ones posted on Sensorly to be specific, and if you actually did the same you would see that at&t does not have "3 or 4x" the amount of LTE of Tmobile in Colorado. In fact, not even 2X. If the maps are any indication of coverage, it looks like Tmobile has the same amount of LTE as AT&T on the Front Range Corridor (i.e. along I-25). The only places where AT&T has LTE where Tmobile does not is in the western portion of the state aka the tiny ski resort towns with populations no more than 5000 each. Now, I personally have been up and down the Front Range Corridor (mostly from Denver to Pueblo) many times and Tmobile has that covered very, very well. Colorado has a total population of just about 5 million. Do you know how many people live along the I-25 Corridor (aka within Tmobiles coverage)? Almost 4.5 million. So for most people living in Colorado, Tmobile serves them just fine.

In fact, the only places they will really "suffer" is the tiny back roads out west in and along the mountains going towards the ski towns. Again, speaking from personal experience, even At&t and Verizon struggle out there.

But if you expect Tmobile (or any carrier for that matter) to cover every single square inch of the state of Colorado, You're kidding yourself. Do you even know how much of Colorado is uninhabited?

Coupled with the fact that you have continually squalled on about how Tmobiles customers are of a lower quality, its fully apparent that youre trolling. Now I apologize that T-mobile does not work for you, but you dont have to berate others because they're able to take advantage of something you are not.

There are always people who will buy low-priced, low-quality products or services whether out of necessity or out of cheapness. It doesn't mean it's a good product or service.

You do realize that we are on Mac Rumors right? Most people on this forum are far from "cheap." Its almost comical how you must resort to berating or criticism because of someones personal choice in Cell Phone Carrier (for crying out loud!)

 

[Truefan31]

Yup. Trolling.

 

[keitarou]

Very disappointing that T-Mobile will not offer corporate discounts anymore to all customers (according to CS). Last discount will be 4/25. Still the best in the business but now not as much especially with the others still having the corporate discounts. Feel free to chat with T-Mobile if you don't believe me.

 

[wordoflife]

Verizon and AT&T (mostly used through work) have always been the ones to lock in their customers and charge a lot more.

That hasn't been the case with AT&T for me. They often give me discounts and waivers. Never heard of anyone getting their activation through Verizon waived and stuff like that. Also Verizon audits corporate discounts while AT&T doesn't. More interestingly enough, Verizon lowered people's corporate discount by 3% if they didn't sign up for paperless billing. If anyone nickel and dimes its customers, its definitely Verizon. My bill would be almost $100 more on Verizon for comparable coverage (and arguably, fewer features).

As for locking customers down, I would have to say Sprint. While Verizon and Sprint always had some sort of limitation due to their CDMA tech, which is fair I suppose - Sprint still does it. Sprint phones are relatively useless if you don't have Sprint service. It doesn't have to be like that, but Sprint is afraid of bleeding any more subscribers than they already have, I suppose.

 

[MattMJB0188]

You're point? Here's a screen shot of some historical tests I did on AT&T from my home, a suburb of Houston (also about 40 mins from downtown).

Note these are tests I did awhile ago. Ignore the signal info in the status bar. At the time the phone reported "4G" coverage.

T-Mobile's problem is their frequencies. That is it. Because they use such high frequencies people experience EDGE more. I get nothing but T-Mobile EDGE in my area as you saw, but that's not because the towers haven't been upgraded. Their upcoming 700mhz spectrum will not be available in all areas. Hopefully this changes someday. I will be on AT&T for a long time.

 

[BiggAW]

Except he hasn't said one false thing in his reply...

Exactly. The facts don't lie.

Honestly I dont know why I or anyone else bothers to respond to you, because its very clear that you are not budging from your irrationality or ignorance. But regardless...

But if you expect Tmobile (or any carrier for that matter) to cover every single square inch of the state of Colorado, You're kidding yourself. Do you even know how much of Colorado is uninhabited?

No one is saying they should cover every square inch. But it's obvious that Verizon and AT&T have covered far more of the state than T-Mobile has. AT&T also has 4G coverage in that upper right "hole" through their roaming agreement with Viaero. The upper left also has 2G roaming.

Coupled with the fact that you have continually squalled on about how Tmobiles customers are of a lower quality, its fully apparent that youre trolling. Now I apologize that T-mobile does not work for you, but you dont have to berate others because they're able to take advantage of something you are not.

That's an established fact. They have lower credit scores, more of them don't pay bills on time, etc, etc.

You do realize that we are on Mac Rumors right? Most people on this forum are far from "cheap." Its almost comical how you must resort to berating or criticism because of someones personal choice in Cell Phone Carrier (for crying out loud!)

Then they should have a strong preference for AT&T, the iPhone carrier, although I could understand why people in certain regions or markets would go to Verizon even though their network doesn't support the iPhone as well as AT&T's does.

The Coverage app doesn't have T-Mobile LTE maps, so I'll be nice and use 3G. The maps don't lie.

Yes, I have a T-Mobile SIM in my iPad for fun. I figured horrible coverage with 200MB of free data would be better than nothing. I have not yet been able to actually activate it though, as the service is so bad it won't load the activation page. Admittedly, my iPad doesn't have AWS HSPA+, but still...

 

[yeah]

Exactly. The facts don't lie.



No one is saying they should cover every square inch. But it's obvious that Verizon and AT&T have covered far more of the state than T-Mobile has. AT&T also has 4G coverage in that upper right "hole" through their roaming agreement with Viaero. The upper left also has 2G roaming.



That's an established fact. They have lower credit scores, more of them don't pay bills on time, etc, etc.



Then they should have a strong preference for AT&T, the iPhone carrier, although I could understand why people in certain regions or markets would go to Verizon even though their network doesn't support the iPhone as well as AT&T's does.

The Coverage app doesn't have T-Mobile LTE maps, so I'll be nice and use 3G. The maps don't lie.

Yes, I have a T-Mobile SIM in my iPad for fun. I figured horrible coverage with 200MB of free data would be better than nothing. I have not yet been able to actually activate it though, as the service is so bad it won't load the activation page. Admittedly, my iPad doesn't have AWS HSPA+, but still...

You forgot to realize that T-Mobile is a smaller carrier who doesn't have the cash reserves to build out a gigantic network like AT&T/Verizon. Also you need to realize that AT&T/Verizon own most of the low-frequency spectrum in the USA, which T-Mobile would need 2-3X more towers to achieve the same coverage.

That being said, the national 2G upgrade to LTE, 700A MHz LTE and the upcoming AWS-3 and 600 MHz auctions should give T-Mobile even more capacity and coverage.

Oh and T-Mobile isn't "Gettho Wireless." T-Mobile is the 4th largest carrier in the USA who offers good service in major cities (and soon in rural areas) and offers cheaper plans compared to AT&T/Verizon's ridiculous prices. Oh, and unlimited data.

Oh and one last thing: If T-Mobile doesn't work out for you, leave. You don't have a contract and you may leave at any time. There is no need to blabber to everyone about how T-Mobile sucks or act like Mr. T-Mobiledoesn'tcovermystreetinBostonsoIamtellingeveryonethatT-MobilesucksacrosstheUSA, especially on a T-Mobile thread.

 

[Truefan31]

Exactly. The facts don't lie.







No one is saying they should cover every square inch. But it's obvious that Verizon and AT&T have covered far more of the state than T-Mobile has. AT&T also has 4G coverage in that upper right "hole" through their roaming agreement with Viaero. The upper left also has 2G roaming.







That's an established fact. They have lower credit scores, more of them don't pay bills on time, etc, etc.







Then they should have a strong preference for AT&T, the iPhone carrier, although I could understand why people in certain regions or markets would go to Verizon even though their network doesn't support the iPhone as well as AT&T's does.



The Coverage app doesn't have T-Mobile LTE maps, so I'll be nice and use 3G. The maps don't lie.



Yes, I have a T-Mobile SIM in my iPad for fun. I figured horrible coverage with 200MB of free data would be better than nothing. I have not yet been able to actually activate it though, as the service is so bad it won't load the activation page. Admittedly, my iPad doesn't have AWS HSPA+, but still...

When you're calling tmobile ghetto wireless that's not a fact. You saying other carriers are a better value that's not a fact either. Value is to each and how they measure it.

You're in a thread about how people think tmobile is good for them. They judge "value" differently than you. Yet you're in here again to troll on tmobile and it's service and it's consumers.

Start your own thread about how you feel tmobile is an inferior network in your opinion. Why do it in a thread about how people are enjoying their tmobile experience? You're trolling.

 

[Retired Cat]

I really don't understand the hatred towards T-Mobile.

No, they don't have the coverage of Verizon or ATT, but their coverage is good enough for many people. T-Mobile has done a lot of good IMO by revealing to consumers the downsides of the traditional contract model.

 

[Truefan31]

I really don't understand the hatred towards T-Mobile.

No, they don't have the coverage of Verizon or ATT, but their coverage is good enough for many people. T-Mobile has done a lot of good IMO by revealing to consumers the downsides of the traditional contract model.

Only 2 are hating really. I mean this thread's subject is about people who are happy with tmobile service and how their moves have had a direct/indirect effect on the us industry. Yet for some reason those 2 are in here to troll.

 

[lordofthereef]

Only 2 are hating really. I mean this thread's subject is about people who are happy with tmobile service and how their moves have had a direct/indirect effect on the us industry. Yet for some reason those 2 are in here to troll.

That's most of the last few pages I have looked at though...

What I don't understand is why people don't just use the ignore feature. I've done that for a handful of people on this site just so I don;t have to ever come across the nonsense that they spew. LOL.

 

[2298754]

You forgot to realize that T-Mobile is a smaller carrier who doesn't have the cash reserves to build out a gigantic network like AT&T/Verizon.

Spare us the BS. For the last few months, you and the rest of the TMo crew have been making us excuses for all that EDGE and how they don't have enough spectrum to deploy LTE nationwide, but guess what TMo just announced? LTE expansion in EDGE areas.

All I've been hearing is excuses and excuses with zero facts to back them up.

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you need to realize that AT&T/Verizon own most of the low-frequency spectrum in the USA, which T-Mobile would need 2-3X more towers to achieve the same coverage.

More excuses. Sprint has already committed to using their PCS spectrum to deploy LTE nationwide and guess what? They're doing it (albeit, slowly) If Sprint can do it, why can't T-Mobile? Don't TMo customers love to parade around about how superior their service is to Sprint?

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Oh and T-Mobile isn't "Gettho Wireless."

Might help to spell "ghetto" correctly first

If they aren't catering to low-end customers, then who are they catering to?

They have, by far, the lowest ARPU in the industry. Not to mention, their churn rate is higher than anyone else's out there. If their customers aren't low-end and volatile, what are they exactly?