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It seems like to me that T-Mobile and for that matter the entire industry went in a round about. At first people paid their for their smartphones as a subsidy and got unlimited data no questions asked. Then as this became unfeasible, carriers created data caps and had over charges.

Then T-Mobile came along with Uncarrier. This separated the cost of the service from the phone (pay for phone on installment). After, the other carriers followed. Now it seems like every carrier has an "unlimited" plan but there are limitations on speed at a certain point. Additionally, T-Mobile and other carriers are adding gimmicks like Netflix among other things and repackaging plans every month to hide the increase in price.

Simply, the more complicated plans become, carriers are able to hide the true price of the actual service you are receiving. I like what John Legere has done for the industry. But they really are not the best value anymore. Some of the new prepaid AT&T plans seem very appealing for users who do not use a lot of data.

Thoughts?
 
They were already offering HBO with their unlimited plan - which IMO is much better than Netflix these days. At least they have newer movies. Netflix is okay if you really love Orange is the new Black or random Adam Sandler movies. They are getting rid of everything else slowly.
I don't even think Adam Sandler loves Adam Sandler movies
 
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More gimmicks by T-Mobile. I can't believe people keep falling for this stuff...

2 Line Plan jumps from $100 (with autopay) to $120 (with autopay)

tl;dr? You're getting $10 of "free netflix," but they raised the plan cost by $20.

What a great uncarrier! We should all bow down to Legere!!

See, what you fail to realize is the 2/$120 has been the standard pricing. The 2/$100 was a promo ONLY.

Google is an amazing tool! :rolleyes:
 
It's still free. Seems like everyone expects something for nothing these days. I wonder if you can also use this same subscription on AppleTV, etc...
 
See, what you fail to realize is the 2/$120 has been the standard pricing. The 2/$100 was a promo ONLY.

Great! That doesn't explain the fact that the price has gone up $20 for a netflix subscription that costs around $9.99. TMo is so groundbreaking!
 
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See, what you fail to realize is the 2/$120 has been the standard pricing. The 2/$100 was a promo ONLY.

Google is an amazing tool! :rolleyes:
Except that $2/100 was running on T-Mobile's website for a long time. It's like Macy's sales event. Things are on sale most of the year.
 
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Great! That doesn't explain the fact that the price has gone up $20 for a netflix subscription that costs around $9.99. TMo is so groundbreaking!

Except that $2/100 was running on T-Mobile's website for a long time. It's like Macy's sales event. Things are on sale most of the year.

So promos never end in your eyes? End 1 promo and start another. The price would really be an additional $10. So it would be 2/$120 + $10 Netflix.
 
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Will save me $10 a month. Thanks, Tmo!!!!

If in fact the quality is terrible, I'll pay the $2 for 4k and it's still a $8 a month savings. :)
 
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T-mobile seems to have good plans but very bad coverage, even in big cities, of the country. A 'good deal' that you can't take advantage of isn't a good deal. That is why people are complaining, especially if they get sold a plan that gives them very bad service.

I've travelled all over the country within the past two years (every state east of the Mississippi River [two week road trip plus travel for work], states in the mountain west, and Canada). The only time I have poor coverage is when I've been out in the middle of nowhere (and even then I sometimes had coverage). LTE coverage at my house isn't great and there are some weak spots in my city but I have 100 mbps internet and WiFi at home and I live in a smallish rural city. T-Mobile has had great service for me except in some very rural locations. AT&T and Verizon have wider coverage but I also only pay $21 per month for 3 lines (4 GB data per month). Add to that the regular T-Mobile Tuesdays promotions (gas $.25 off per gallon, free movies, etc.), a very inexpensive iPhone upgrade promo last year, free texting and data in Canada, etc. and it would take a lot for Verizon or AT&T to get my business.

I'm not brand loyal to T-Mobile; I'm "loyal" to the company that gives me the best value and service for the money. So far, that's been T-Mobile.
 
I've travelled all over the country within the past two years (every state east of the Mississippi River [two week road trip plus travel for work], states in the mountain west, and Canada). The only time I have poor coverage is when I've been out in the middle of nowhere (and even then I sometimes had coverage). LTE coverage at my house isn't great and there are some weak spots in my city but I have 100 mbps internet and WiFi at home and I live in a smallish rural city. T-Mobile has had great service for me except in some very rural locations. AT&T and Verizon have wider coverage but I also only pay $21 per month for 3 lines (4 GB data per month). Add to that the regular T-Mobile Tuesdays promotions (gas $.25 off per gallon, free movies, etc.), a very inexpensive iPhone upgrade promo last year, free texting and data in Canada, etc. and it would take a lot for Verizon or AT&T to get my business.

I'm not brand loyal to T-Mobile; I'm "loyal" to the company that gives me the best value and service for the money. So far, that's been T-Mobile.

I live 12 miles north of Omaha Nebraska, right off a major highway. Bring your phone.
 
Imagine that there is a bar in your town, and that they are advertising free beer until 2:00 this afternoon only. People in your town will have no problems getting there to take advantage of this offer. People 100 miles away might be able to make it there if they leave immediately, people who live farther than that get no benefit from this offer at all.

T-mobile seems to have good plans but very bad coverage, even in big cities, of the country. A 'good deal' that you can't take advantage of isn't a good deal. That is why people are complaining, especially if they get sold a plan that gives them very bad service.

Looks like you haven't used them in a while. I just drove cross country with a Verizon and T-Mobile phone....T-Mobile had excellent coverage. It will only get better when they roll out all of the 600mhz spectrum they purchased. In a few years their network will outpace Verizon's mythical network.
 
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This is a bit of a scam, at least with respect to my plan. I have the T-Mobile One 2-lines for $100 plan, which I bought earlier in the year. Per the terms of this deal, it won't be eligible for free Netflix. Coincidentally, they've since raised the price of the 2-line One plan to $120, while also stripping it of its tethering and HD streaming features, which now cost an additional $10/month/line.

So, at least if you're in my boat, you can either switch to paying $140 per month to get the same plan with free Netflix or you can just pay Netflix directly and pay a total of $110 (or $113 if you like your 4kUHD & HDR as much as I do). Gee - thanks Mr. Legere.

Also, if you're considering switching, I feel I must share that I had to speak with two separate customer service reps to get hardly any info. Neither knew anything. One said she hadn't been trained yet and couldn't find my account, though she did offer to give feedback that "T-Mobile should train reps before giving info to the public." The other gave me completely incorrect info about all plans. Honestly, both seemed to have the intellect of junior-high dropouts. Not good. Also, with respect to actual service, while everything is as awesome as the beginning of The Lego Movie when I'm outside in a major or mid-sized city, T-Mobile has been only slightly better than useless inside buildings and in most burbs. Just an FYI.
 
Bah, I'm too old school. Grew up on "free" TV. Can't stand the thought of paying to watch TV quality shows, even if it is on my phone. Wait. Why am I paying to watch on an even smaller TV screen?
 
I'll just continue using my parents Netflix streaming account that they never use. Plus, I don't qualify having just a single line on TMO ONE.

I contemplated getting my wife to switch for this prom, but it wouldn't be worth it when we already get free Netflix.
 
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Looks like you haven't used them in a while. I just drove cross country with a Verizon and T-Mobile phone....T-Mobile had excellent coverage. It will only get better when they roll out all of the 600mhz spectrum they purchased. In a few years their network will outpace Verizon's mythical network.

It's been about 2 months since a friend and I went on a road trip, specifically to see how good his reception was. By the time we hit the county line his data service was intermittent. At my house the cell service was also intermittent. Driving west on Hwy 30 it was gone until we got close to Fremont Nebraska. T-mobile isn't alone in spotty service. My brother has Sprint. It doesn't work at my house. I don't live in a valley and there aren't a lot of buildings near me, other than residential houses.
 
I'm glad some people will be qualified and excited to take advantage of this, but this was NOT the "biggest customer pain point" when it comes to wireless carriers.
I think they are referring to the idea that the industry is happy to give you additional features but at an added cost to you, which is added income to them because that new feature being made available is not being offered at cost to the company but at an inflated cost to you so that AT&T, for instance, can make even more per month off of you. This offer is made a no new additional cost to those plan holding members. Truly, the "biggest customer pain point" is in the eye of the individual consumer. For some it may be price while for others it may be connectivity.
 
It's been about 2 months since a friend and I went on a road trip, specifically to see how good his reception was. By the time we hit the county line his data service was intermittent. At my house the cell service was also intermittent. Driving west on Hwy 30 it was gone until we got close to Fremont Nebraska. T-mobile isn't alone in spotty service. My brother has Sprint. It doesn't work at my house. I don't live in a valley and there aren't a lot of buildings near me, other than residential houses.
In that case, yea, if you're living in Nebraska don't use T-Mobile. The mid/upper mid west doesn't seem very good based on what I've read. Other than that, they've done well throughout the rest of rural America on roads no one would dream of having LTE on. By 2019, Nebraska and similaly located states will be covered.

I had no coverage issues throughout California, southern (west mid and east) America. I've lived in the northeast for the past three years, again, no major issues. From Boston to New York to Pennsylvania to Buffalo and everything inbetween, no issues. I've driven from the northeast to Georgia.... no issues. This is all with a Verizon and a T-Mobile phone in hand.
 
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I've travelled all over the country within the past two years (every state east of the Mississippi River [two week road trip plus travel for work], states in the mountain west, and Canada). The only time I have poor coverage is when I've been out in the middle of nowhere (and even then I sometimes had coverage). LTE coverage at my house isn't great and there are some weak spots in my city but I have 100 mbps internet and WiFi at home and I live in a smallish rural city. T-Mobile has had great service for me except in some very rural locations. AT&T and Verizon have wider coverage but I also only pay $21 per month for 3 lines (4 GB data per month). Add to that the regular T-Mobile Tuesdays promotions (gas $.25 off per gallon, free movies, etc.), a very inexpensive iPhone upgrade promo last year, free texting and data in Canada, etc. and it would take a lot for Verizon or AT&T to get my business.

I'm not brand loyal to T-Mobile; I'm "loyal" to the company that gives me the best value and service for the money. So far, that's been T-Mobile.

Same for me. It's been a while since I've had legitimate complaints with T-MO's coverage.
 
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