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It boils down to whether you trust giant, faceless, jingoistic publicly-traded companies. And when there are arbitrary, "clear as mud" metrics being dispensed from them, it makes sense to assume the worst.
Sure...pretty much just like it applies to most things in life yesterday, today, and tomorrow. We use the internet, we have bank accounts, we use credit cards, we get drivers licenses and register cars, we get books from libraries, we pay taxes, etc., etc., etc.
 
What is it that we would need to know? What would make anything different and in what way?

- Definition of "congested" at each tower.
- Criteria of "de-prioritizing."
- Where you are on the list.
- When the tower you're on is likely to be "congested."

Probably a few other things, but I'm tired.

Yes, there are going to be people jumping from tower to tower while driving, and some won't know or won't care. Yet, there are people like me who use unlimited data at home, as a broadband substitute (and I haven't been anywhere close to 100gb/month).

They have the analytics to know these things, they use them all the time in internal research.
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Sure...pretty much just like it applies to most things in life yesterday, today, and tomorrow. We use the internet, we have bank accounts, we use credit cards, we get drivers licenses and register cars, we get books from libraries, we pay taxes, etc., etc., etc.

And with all of those items you mentioned, you know what product you're going to get.

- Bank/credit union: you know the fees.
- Credit cards, same thing, they are required to tell you the APR and other fees.
- Driver's Licenses, yup, you know what they DMV is going to give you.

And so on and so forth. So why can't we know when we're going to get throttled? Oh, sorry, "de-prioitized?"
 
- Definition of "congested" at each tower.
- Criteria of "de-prioritizing."
- Where you are on the list.
- When the tower you're on is likely to be "congested."

Probably a few other things, but I'm tired.

Yes, there are going to be people jumping from tower to tower while driving, and some won't know or won't care. Yet, there are people like me who use unlimited data at home, as a broadband substitute (and I haven't been anywhere close to 100gb/month).

They have the analytics to know these things, they use them all the time in internal research.
But if we aren't trusting the corporations why would we trust any numbers they provide and even if we do go by the numbers they can still make up the congestion to fit any of those numbers when they want. It makes it all rather moot.
 
I've tested in Germany, France, Brazil, Japan and Canada. Google maps, Waze, and all other necessities work great. Texts are free and calls are cents per minute. I was one of the original simple choice customers maybe 3 years ago or more. I told friends in Germany about my plan and they were blown away. I guess T-Mobile is huge there and they can't touch this kind of plan. Anyway, it was faster than you would think and I always had great signal.

You would think Telekom (T-Mobile's parent company in Germany) would offer more competitive plans since they do have competition. Anyway, I really enjoyed using my iPhone 5s in Germany, Switzerland and Denmark when I last visited over there almost 3 years ago. I currently have simple choice, 2 lines, 6GB data at $98 a month including taxes/fees and was wondering if this T-Mobile One plan for 2 lines, unlimited data at $100 a month including taxes and fees is temporary with the price returning to the normal $120 after a certain period of time (like Sprint's current promotion that ends in 2018)?
 
It won't be until it kicks in on friday.

Not sure if it will be where you turn off binge on or under options where you currently opt in for hd right now. The monthly hasn't started yet so is not there.......

Thanks for the info. I looked on the site not expecting to see anything on the new plan, but didn't see anything for binge on as either. I guess we'll see what appears on Friday!

I'm wondering if this same plan will be available on my cellular iPad as well.
 
Its $65+$20 access for $85, then $5 off for autopay/paperless to get $80, not this..

Yes, I signed up yesterday morning. Very pleased to keep Verizon. I was paying $140 for 24GB, and can live with the new offering. Still the best network.
 
Same messy issue here. Online & telephone support were wrong. When I went with my 6s+ to hand over / pay in full, the corporate store asked what I was going to do with my old phone...I replied I had to hand it over, right? They said, sure, but you can pay it off 100% and sell it yourself and most likely make a little extra cash. Just make sure you get the full and proper pay off amount, INCLUDING TAXES (if applicable to you) [they mis-informed me by $45] and then I sold it personally to a work friend for a fair price and ended up making $75-ish and starting my new jump on demand 18 month cycle.....thank goodness for a honest and knowledgable store manager....


Actually, the newest JUMP on Demand plan will allow you to keep your existing device, as long as you pay it off in full - and then you can get a new one. (The new one will start a whole new JUMP on Demand plan with another 18 months of payments to pay it off.)

I did this when I wanted to jump to a new iPhone 7+ from my 6s I was still leasing.
It was a bit confusing, because when you call in, they tell you that payoff transaction can only be handled in a store or a T-Mobile kiosk. But at the store, I was initially told they couldn't do it and I might have to call in!

Eventually, the sales rep. figured out where there was some place on his computer terminal to check-mark the right option to do it, though. So I paid out the lease, using my credit card, and then got the new 7+. Better deal than trading the old phone back in, since I got more for it on eBay.
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Yep, I canceled my T-Mobile last year because it was often not useable due to coverage. The coverage was good at my home but not that good from the center of the state north.

I was in the southern part of NH last late fall, and it was spotty. either great LTE (20+/13) or just zero. I spoke with Tmobile before heading out there, and the word is they are aggressively installing new towers/sites in the area....hope it true...Boston metro area was decent with coverage (touristy)
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I called today about this new plan. I'm currently on grandfathered plan Simple Choice. $80 for Unlimited plus $10 for 5GB tablet. For me I would only save taxes, $80 would go to $70 but $10 would go to $20 for unlimited data tablet plan. You still pay taxes on insurance I was told. Plus I have 2 device payments. I was told I would save only about $7 in taxes a month. So bill would go from $176 to $169. I'm still considering but weighing the decision. Is it worth it, only gaining extra 3 GB hotspot and going to unlimited tablet plan from 5GB.

goodness, don't do it. I'm also on the 2 for $100 real unlimited plan; no throttling period is better than the small amount you save. We all will use more data going forward. Look also at the lucky people on the old verizon unlimited plan, holding onto it till the end....
 
I love to read these articles and comments, even though I don't even live in America.

It's funny that 90% of the people here seem to feel like they definitely NEED unlimited data.
I personally am on Wifi 95% of my day, so I'm fine with 500MB and sometimes even less. Do you even have plans in the U.S. (for less than $20) for people like me?

When I was shopping for a family member most plans with data start at about $30 for a prepaid plan.
 
Oh, Verizon...

Yes, the unlimited plan requires you to fork over your banking information for either debit or direct checking access.

Eff ewe, Verizon. Thanks to TMobile for pointing this out - I had been interested in the Verizon offer until I saw this.

Not completely correct - in order to get an ADDITIONAL discount of $10 you have to have autopay.
 
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Why would anyone signup with Verizon if T-Mobile matches everything and for significantly less?

also, what does Lines 1-2-4 mean? You get 2 phone numbers that share same plan or 2 phones numbers with similar plan?
 
$70 dollars is still a huge amount of money. Here in the U.K. Where there's a lot of healthy competition you can get unlimited data 4G for like £20ish. Currently on unlimited texts, minutes and 10GB 4G for £20/m with excellent coverage and that's with one of the more expensive carriers (O2) if you go for one of the MVNO's it gets really cheap.
 
Why would anyone signup with Verizon if T-Mobile matches everything and for significantly less?

also, what does Lines 1-2-4 mean? You get 2 phone numbers that share same plan or 2 phones numbers with similar plan?
Don't buy into their claim that they've reached parity with Verizon as far as coverage goes. I switched to TMo about 3yrs ago. It is true that the coverage has drastically improved since, but as many have already pointed out, coverage is spotty at best once you veer off the more populated areas. Most resort areas in PA and NY we've visited have no service.

I'm glad Verizon is directly competing with TMo at last, keeping TMo in check. I knew TMo was going to flash that new test report and probably would've used it to screw over new customers had Verizon not responded. That HD pass scheme is a very cheesy move, even once a month.

Comparing their current unlimited plan offerings, the price difference is really not that much, taking into account the no fees/taxes on TMo. Knowing what I know having been with TMo for 3yrs, if I was a new customer I would seriously consider paying a bit more and go with Verizon. But I am glad I singed on with TMo early on at their rock bottom pricing. To get what I'm getting now with Verizon will cost at least double, probably more. I have 9 lines (2 unlimited, three 6GB, the rest 4GB per month) and a 5GB iPad all for $210/mo taxes and fees included.

I love TMo for what they've done for (to? lol) the industry. Let these two duke it out! Everyone benefits.
 
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Same messy issue here. Online & telephone support were wrong. When I went with my 6s+ to hand over / pay in full, the corporate store asked what I was going to do with my old phone...I replied I had to hand it over, right? They said, sure, but you can pay it off 100% and sell it yourself and most likely make a little extra cash. Just make sure you get the full and proper pay off amount, INCLUDING TAXES (if applicable to you) [they mis-informed me by $45] and then I sold it personally to a work friend for a fair price and ended up making $75-ish and starting my new jump on demand 18 month cycle.....thank goodness for a honest and knowledgable store manager....



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I was in the southern part of NH last late fall, and it was spotty. either great LTE (20+/13) or just zero. I spoke with Tmobile before heading out there, and the word is they are aggressively installing new towers/sites in the area....hope it true...Boston metro area was decent with coverage (touristy)
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goodness, don't do it. I'm also on the 2 for $100 real unlimited plan; no throttling period is better than the small amount you save. We all will use more data going forward. Look also at the lucky people on the old verizon unlimited plan, holding onto it till the end....

Actually the Simple Choice is subject the the 28GB throttle also I was told by the rep I talked to. The 28GB is all plans including Simple Choice. They claim it's Top 3%. https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/t-mobile-links/t-mobile-fact-sheet.htm on the bottom of the page in the fine print from when they first announced T-Mobile One.
 
So batting this around here is how I see it. Any comments?

TMob:

Pros: about $205 less expensive per year, better guarantee to not jack up rates, 1hr go-go (minor, but a perk still), $150 incentive for switching and bringing your own phone.

Cons: debatable coverage outside interstates and major cities, even just outside, seen as a technology laggard.

VZW:

Pro: Reputation for having best network speed and coverage

Con: $205 more expensive per year than TMob, no real guarantee they won't jack up the rate in a year or cancel the plan all together, $30 activation fee.





$70 dollars is still a huge amount of money. Here in the U.K. Where there's a lot of healthy competition you can get unlimited data 4G for like £20ish. Currently on unlimited texts, minutes and 10GB 4G for £20/m with excellent coverage and that's with one of the more expensive carriers (O2) if you go for one of the MVNO's it gets really cheap.

These Euro to US comparisons are silly. Every market is different. You guys cherry pick cell phone plans and talk about how cheap they are compared to the U.S., and they are. But so what. In the U.S. we get more for less money with food, clothes, cars and electronics. I don't see anyone here based in the U.S. talking about how much cheaper Macs are here. In fact, I only see people who live overseas complaining about how much more expensive they are there. Regional markets are regional markets. But on the whole the cost of living in a modern city is about the same (80-100 on the cost of living index) everywhere. It all averages out.
 
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The updated plan is nice, but I'm still holding onto my Simple Choice unlimited plan (2x 1GB, 1x unlimited) for $110 before a government discount as it's all ultimately cheaper.
 
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