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Sigh... Tech noobs... Here's a little equation to ponder: Good network (AT&T)+ Bad network (T-Mobile) = Better network (AT&T + T-Mobile). There's nothing wrong with T-Mobile's network per se, it's just that its coverage isn't quite as good as its competitors. That's not to say it doesn't have adequate coverage in some areas, so if you add the two networks, you get great coverage all around. Why did AT&T want to buy your network? Refer to the above equation, and stop spreading FUD T-Mo.
 
Duh! No, they're not. But their overall coverage is better than TMo.

in YOUR opinon, DUH

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People need to realize that coverage and speeds are all subjective based on where you live. I guarantee if you run a speed test it wouldn't beat out what I can achieve in Salt Lake City on LTE. I've damn near gotten 50 Mbps download here. So don't act like Tmobile beats AT&T everywhere, or even most places.

That goes without saying unless you're a total moron. I had verizon, their LTE was smoking fast, but what i should have said is to me, smoking fast data with caps doesn't mean a damn thing for me, i don't want to plow through 4gb's in a week because it's so fast and get the alerts that i'm approaching my data limits for the month, that **** isn't for me anymore and happy to not have those issues anymore, tmobile where i'm at 99% of the time is smoking fast enough for my needs at home and anywhere nearby east, south, west or north within a few hours

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What does this have to do with Apple?

Tmobile will be selling the Iphone laster this month!
 
I'd rather see reasons why T-Mobile are better, than have them just insult the competition so directly. I guess I'm not used to American advertising (though I saw it a lot in the presidential run up thingy too).
 
Stuff like this makes me glad that the UK is small enough to have near universal coverage on all networks. The networks have to focus a bit more on customer service to retain customers instead of relying on them being the only network available in any given area (no incentive to keep the customers then).
 
What does this have to do with Apple?

Thought the same just as I have read your comment.

But nice reply from T-Mobile though.


Because T-mobile is going to be carrying Apple products in the near future, in addition; they are revamping the way people will buy the phones.

They will no longer be subsidizing handsets, but rather going to a more traditional method Europe uses. plans will be cheaper than AT&T (presumably), data buckets will be better (presumably), and overall the model I think will indeed spread to other carriers in the future here in the States- (the subsidizing portion anyway).

That's what it has to do with Apple, they are going to use the iPhone as a springboard/launchpad for the new structure.
 
that being said, TMo and Sprint boys are so hung up on how "cheap" their service is, but don't realize that cheap doesn't mean better. Never has, never will. There's a reason why VZW and AT&T keep adding consumers quarter after quarter, whereas TMo is hemorrhaging them. Let's not forget AT&T and VZW's superior 3G/LTE rollout, it's not even close. TMobile is still rolling out 3G, whereas AT&T and VZW are knees deep in their LTE deployments...

Depends on where you live. Where I live, T-Mobile's 3G is 5X faster than what AT&T's was. AT&T has only just caught up. And T-Mobile's voice coverage is better, to the point where people with iPhones on AT&T have to apologize when they can't connect.

There is no doubt Verizon's voice coverage is better nationwide. I had a Verizon phone through work for a while, and, the chances of making a phone call when the plane touched down in a random airport were always better with Verizon.

But, I don't like AT&T and Verizon customer service, and, I don't like AT&T and Verizon pricing (T-Mobile was around 1/2 AT&T for my needs).

That leaves Sprint and T-Mobile, thank you very much.

But what I really don't get is the reverence some people feel for AT&T. Pathetic. Sad. Laughable.


Why do AT&T and VZW need to lower prices? No reason too.

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It's Sprint's and TMobile's job to be catering to a lower class people, not the two big boys who spend billions and billions of dollars making sure it always works and coverage isn't spotty.

Actually, price matters a lot to me. Why should I pay 2X if I don't have to? It is time the carriers competed. In capitalism, market-based competition is supposed to be what keeps companies honest. You aren't a socialist, are you?

Back to the reverence which some people feel for AT&T. This isn't the same company that came out at 3:00 AM in a storm to fix your universal service phone back in the 50's That company is long since dead. AT&T is now this company:

SBC's pending acquisition of AT&T will make the resultant merged company—which is expected to take the name of ATT—the largest telecommunications company in the United States. And with big britches come big statements, as illustrated in this exerted interview with SBC's CEO Edward Whitacre. I suspect that you might want to sit down and take deep breath before reading Whitacre's response to the following question:



How concerned are you about Internet upstarts like Google (GOOG ), MSN, Vonage, and others?

How do you think they're going to get to customers? Through a broadband pipe. Cable companies have them. We have them. Now what they would like to do is use my pipes free, but I ain't going to let them do that because we have spent this capital and we have to have a return on it. So there's going to have to be some mechanism for these people who use these pipes to pay for the portion they're using. Why should they be allowed to use my pipes?

The Internet can't be free in that sense, because we and the cable companies have made an investment and for a Google or Yahoo! (YHOO ) or Vonage or anybody to expect to use these pipes [for] free is nuts!

http://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2005/10/5498-2/

AT&T today is just another phone company. Get over it.
 
T-Mobile's retaliatory ads question why AT&T attempted to buy the carrier if T-Mobile's network is so unsatisfactory.

They didn't want the network they wanted the physical tower rights to switch them to AT&Ts network and the contracts.

And tmobile is the last folks that need to be advertising for someone else. Focus on what makes you good and don't name drop anyone else to give folks ideas.

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maybe we will get lucky and they will get in a competition to undercut each other with prices :)

Maybe not as much as you think.

The real hat trick here for t-mobile is if they go forward with their new pricing schemes. Because it will have the advantage that those that bring in a device won't be dinged. Right now you are paying the same $40 a month for whatever minutes whether you are subsidized, full price, brought your own. And that's not fair. So much so that someone posted a petition with the whitehouse to force carriers to treat service and subsidies as two line items along with one to end any carrier locking when you buy a phone. Make the carriers lock you in with the best deal, not software tricks
 
I'm with at&t for a long time now, but ever since the iphone came out, the price has been getting out of hand.

I'm going to wait for tmobile to drop those plans at the end of the month everyone has been buzzing about, and then see if at&t counters. If they do, i will stay out of sheer convenience. But if not, i'm gone.

Bastards. EVERY mobile carrier seriously sucks in one way or another.
 
Compared to what? In what location?



Compared to what? In what location?

I just tested AT&T and just got only 1.7 Mbps download (iPhone 4S). It all depends on where you are.

Compared to AT&T, sprint, verizon and even metroPOS and in ATLANTA. All over Atlanta
 
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