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switched officially on my iphone 5 a month ago, tmobile is fantastic, no drops, their network is by far faster where i live than ATT (their "4g" or LTE is not even close to Tmobile opened up 1900 band "3g") and was with att pretty much since iphone 1 came out 2007. Truly ulimited tmobile is the real deal, im stoked

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agreed, they definitely should have added, "oh by the way, does att have truly unlimited data...no, not anymore"


People need to realize that coverage and speeds are all subjective based on where you live. I guarantee if you run a speed test it wouldn't beat out what I can achieve in Salt Lake City on LTE. I've damn near gotten 50 Mbps download here. So don't act like Tmobile beats AT&T everywhere, or even most places.
 
'Don't take our word for it' - then the URL is on their site! What dumbasses. Point people to an INDEPENDENT review you dumbos if you really want customers to trust you.
 
There I fixed that for you.:D

Yes, but TMob's footprint in urban areas is not so different than ATT's and if they lower their rates there, then ATT will have to follow or lose out in that lucrative market.

If ATT lowers its rates in urban areas, it will have to do so also everywhere and then so shall VZ.

So, TMob actually has some decent leverage, despite the overall size differences of the companies.

Watch for ATT and VZ to join together to put down this insurrection.
 
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Of course, but smart shoppers know the reality and look at the company as a whole before buying into their services, especially something as important as a smart phone (and it's service).

"Smart shoppers" - especially for technical purchases - are exceedingly rare.
 
T-Mobile>AT&T any day

Specially with T-Mobiles $30 Walmart plan

100 talk minutes & unlimited txt & 5GB of unlimited 4G data

Perfect for my iPhone 4S

Can't beat that with any other carrier. You'd be paying more than $60+ for that same Plan!

Need to add "in my area" because of T's limited coverage.
 
She [AT&T] started it.

Nope. It was TMo's CEO trashing AT&T and VZW during their CES keynote.


that being said, TMo and Sprint boys are so hung up on how "cheap" their service is, but don't realize that cheap doesn't mean better. Never has, never will. There's a reason why VZW and AT&T keep adding consumers quarter after quarter, whereas TMo is hemorrhaging them. Let's not forget AT&T and VZW's superior 3G/LTE rollout, it's not even close. TMobile is still rolling out 3G, whereas AT&T and VZW are knees deep in their LTE deployments...

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Yes, but TMob's footprint in urban areas is not so different than ATT's and if they lower their rates there, then ATT will have to follow or lose out in that lucrative market.

If ATT lowers its rates in urban areas, it will have to do so also everywhere and then so shall VZ.

So, TMob actually has some decent leverage, despite the overall size differences of the companies.

Watch for ATT and VZ to join together to put down this insurrection.

Why do AT&T and VZW need to lower prices? No reason too. Tmobile has no leverage, except a big mouth to lie to their customers (their nationwide 4g commercials with the hot girl)

It's Sprint's and TMobile's job to be catering to a lower class people, not the two big boys who spend billions and billions of dollars making sure it always works and coverage isn't spotty.

T-Mobile wants to talk trash while suffering from massive postpaid losses that run 500,000 subscribers per quarter. They have a swiss-cheese PCS HSPA network because they've been too cheap to pay Apple to add AWS HSPA to the iPhone. They announced at CES that their LTE would be up and running in 2-3 weeks. The only sign of it has been where they've allowed people to slip on it briefly.
 
Personally, I would not buy, or just not go with T-mobile or any seller of any kind that is that aggressive about selling you something... period...
 
Problem with T Mobile unless you are in a city were they are covered there coverage sucks - not sure if they are hurting or what they just removed several of there towers in the area were i live and almost completely disappeared. I think why AT&T wanted them was for there tower coverage - cheaper to buy out a company and take over there towers then to lease and buy new towers. The cost per tower of a buy out would be a fraction of the cost of building new towers to cover more area...

You're absolutely 180 degrees wrong (aside from your horrid spelling/grammar). Documents leaked before the decision on the merger showed that AT&T could have built out their network for about 1/10 the price that they were spending on T-Mobile. This was nothing more than a way to eliminate a competitor, and tighten their grip on the market. Pure and simple.

It's the SOP of AT&T (Cingular). I really, really look forward to their going down in flames. There will not be another iPhone coming down the pike to bail them out.

And can you explain to me the statement, "Unless you're in a city where there (sic) covered the coverage sucks."? Wouldn't that be true for every carrier? If they're not covered, their coverage sucks. :rolleyes:
 
Nope. It was TMo's CEO trashing AT&T and VZW during their CES keynote.


that being said, TMo and Sprint boys are so hung up on how "cheap" their service is, but don't realize that cheap doesn't mean better. Never has, never will. There's a reason why VZW and AT&T keep adding consumers quarter after quarter, whereas TMo is hemorrhaging them. Let's not forget AT&T and VZW's superior 3G/LTE rollout, it's not even close. TMobile is still rolling out 3G, whereas AT&T and VZW are knees deep in their LTE deployments...

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Why do AT&T and VZW need to lower prices? No reason too. Tmobile has no leverage, except a big mouth to lie to their customers (their nationwide 4g commercials with the hot girl)

It's Sprint's and TMobile's job to be catering to a lower class people, not the two big boys who spend billions and billions of dollars making sure it always works and coverage isn't spotty.

T-Mobile wants to talk trash while suffering from massive postpaid losses that run 500,000 subscribers per quarter. They have a swiss-cheese PCS HSPA network because they've been too cheap to pay Apple to add AWS HSPA to the iPhone. They announced at CES that their LTE would be up and running in 2-3 weeks. The only sign of it has been where they've allowed people to slip on it briefly.

Actually T-Mobile is investing highly into their LTE and will phase out EDGE in the next few years to use for further LTE. Also their LTE will be one of the fastest since they have a lot of spectrum and backhaul.
 
Nope. It was TMo's CEO trashing AT&T and VZW during their CES keynote.


that being said, TMo and Sprint boys are so hung up on how "cheap" their service is, but don't realize that cheap doesn't mean better. Never has, never will. There's a reason why VZW and AT&T keep adding consumers quarter after quarter, whereas TMo is hemorrhaging them. Let's not forget AT&T and VZW's superior 3G/LTE rollout, it's not even close. TMobile is still rolling out 3G, whereas AT&T and VZW are knees deep in their LTE deployments...

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Why do AT&T and VZW need to lower prices? No reason too. Tmobile has no leverage, except a big mouth to lie to their customers (their nationwide 4g commercials with the hot girl)

It's Sprint's and TMobile's job to be catering to a lower class people, not the two big boys who spend billions and billions of dollars making sure it always works and coverage isn't spotty.

T-Mobile wants to talk trash while suffering from massive postpaid losses that run 500,000 subscribers per quarter. They have a swiss-cheese PCS HSPA network because they've been too cheap to pay Apple to add AWS HSPA to the iPhone. They announced at CES that their LTE would be up and running in 2-3 weeks. The only sign of it has been where they've allowed people to slip on it briefly.

Please don't put AT&T even in the same league as Verizon, coverage-wise. Not even close.
 
Actually T-Mobile is investing highly into their LTE and will phase out EDGE in the next few years to use for further LTE. Also their LTE will be one of the fastest since they have a lot of spectrum and backhaul.

What proof do you have that EDGE will be phased out? They have not gone on record anywhere saying that they will get rid of their EDGE/GPRS areas, and there's a **** ton of them. They have only talked about LTE and that's only in top 25 metro markets. For comparison, AT&T is almost done with top 100 markets and has been branching out to others and VZW has been done with them for a while now. AT&T has more LTE than TMobile has 3G. Pathetic.

And again, they only have enough spectrum in most major cities, that's it.

If their LTE rollout is anything like their 3G rollout, it will late as usia with mediocre coverage, but with decent speeds in areas where you can access it.

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Please don't put AT&T even in the same league as Verizon, coverage-wise. Not even close.

Why not? VZW had a 1 year head start on LTE and they needed it quicker because their EVDO was being outclassed by everyone. AT&T is right behind them in LTE deployment (should be done by next year versus end of 2013 for VZW). AT&T HSPA is fast in the areas without LTE and provides a better experience than VZW EVDO.

Of course, I'll give VZW this, their LTE deployment speed has been ridiculous.

I have both VZW and AT&T devices. I get signal everywhere with both, except in rural areas, I'm stuck with slow EVDO or EDGE on AT&T. Pretty ****** both ways.
 
TMobiles network where I am is pretty good. Much better than Sprint, which is who I have now. I'll be leaving Sprint as soon as my contract is up. I've been patient with Sprint since leaving Tmobile to get the iPhone on an unlimited network. A lot has changed in a couple of years. I'll be back with TMobile. I think what they're doing is great for the company and will help them in the long haul sustain business. Ahhhhh, I remember my old Sidekicks. Those were the days

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I have to disagree on the Lower Class part though. You can be as technical as you want, but thats a slap in the face for those of us who come nowhere near lower class. Some of us use the networks because it works to our needs and the pricing is great, especially for family plans. I've never heard of your cell carrier determining what class you're in, but there are budget conscious people in every class that look for practical means of doing what is best for their family. My Sprint service is slow at times and other fine, but I've been patient with it and will more than likely go back to TMobile when my contract is up because the service is great where I live. The extra I save I can use for gas in my Car, Truck, maybe even my boat. I worked hard and came from nothing to be quite successful with a wife who I probably wouldn't have otherwise. But I learned lessons from that journey and if being slightly frugal with monthly bills keeps me grounded, then that's my way. Two companies are fighting, so be it. But the service is different everywhere I have found. It's nothing but high school drama. Cheers!

Couldn't agree anymore. The service you use doesn't determine what class you're in as the OP said. Some people spend their money wisely and wish to use the extra money they would've normally spend on the more expensive carrier on everyday things. And that's being wise with your money. Which is another reason why i would NEVER go on a 2 year contract just to get the newest iPhone meanwhile getting these $80+ bills at the end of the month.
 
Nope. It was TMo's CEO trashing AT&T and VZW during their CES keynote.


that being said, TMo and Sprint boys are so hung up on how "cheap" their service is, but don't realize that cheap doesn't mean better. Never has, never will. There's a reason why VZW and AT&T keep adding consumers quarter after quarter, whereas TMo is hemorrhaging them. Let's not forget AT&T and VZW's superior 3G/LTE rollout, it's not even close. TMobile is still rolling out 3G, whereas AT&T and VZW are knees deep in their LTE deployments...

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Why do AT&T and VZW need to lower prices? No reason too. Tmobile has no leverage, except a big mouth to lie to their customers (their nationwide 4g commercials with the hot girl)

It's Sprint's and TMobile's job to be catering to a lower class people, not the two big boys who spend billions and billions of dollars making sure it always works and coverage isn't spotty.

T-Mobile wants to talk trash while suffering from massive postpaid losses that run 500,000 subscribers per quarter. They have a swiss-cheese PCS HSPA network because they've been too cheap to pay Apple to add AWS HSPA to the iPhone. They announced at CES that their LTE would be up and running in 2-3 weeks. The only sign of it has been where they've allowed people to slip on it briefly.

You've totally lost your mind and are completely out of touch with reality if you think only "lower class people" care about how much their phone bill is. A higher cell phone bill isn't a sign of wealth, it's a sign of stupidity if there is a lower priced option that serves your needs.

There are people who live in areas where T-Mobile may be better than AT&T/Verizon or vice-versa. A few months ago I switched my main line over to Verizon from T-Mobile because I wanted the iPhone 5 and in my whole neighborhood where T-Mobile gets 5 bars and 15-20mbps HSPA+, Verizon drops to 1-2 bars and wildly fluctuates between 3G, LTE, and "O". It all depends on where you are who is the best and in urban areas T-Mobile goes toe to toe with AT&T/Verizon and has less dropped calls from my experience. Then with the LTE speeds themselves, I usually get around 15-20mbps with Verizon, not much different from what I see with Androids on T-Mobile HSPA+. Don't fall for the marketing hype man.

Now in terms of overall coverage footprint, yes Verizon has everyone beat and AT&T is 2nd but you fail to realize that there are quite a few people who don't frequently travel into the rural areas where T-Mobile doesn't have HSPA+. When choosing a cell phone plan people look at the price/coverage and determine how much they are willing to pay and if the coverage suits their needs. If you're always on the road or constantly in rural areas, yes by all means choose Verizon or maybe AT&T. If you're mostly in urban areas where all 4 carriers compete, take a look at T-Mobile/Sprint and save a $1000 or so per year that can be used for other things instead of going to a cell operator.

Also T-Mobile and Sprint are spending billions on their networks as well to get LTE up and improve overall service and coverage. They're not just kicking back watching Verizon/AT&T spend everything.
 
Wow. Adverts actually worth reading, for a change.

Pass the popcorn.

This advert is somewhat childish, yet strangely entertaining.

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'Don't take our word for it' - then the URL is on their site! What dumbasses. Point people to an INDEPENDENT review you dumbos if you really want customers to trust you.

I think they were hoping people would forget that they are, in fact, still taking their word for it after going to the website!
 
Now in terms of overall coverage footprint, yes Verizon has everyone beat and AT&T is 2nd but you fail to realize that there are quite a few people who don't frequently travel into the rural areas where T-Mobile doesn't have HSPA+. When choosing a cell phone plan people look at the price/coverage and determine how much they are willing to pay and if the coverage suits their needs. If you're always on the road or constantly in rural areas, yes by all means choose Verizon or maybe AT&T. If you're mostly in urban areas where all 4 carriers compete, take a look at T-Mobile/Sprint and save a $1000 or so per year that can be used for other things instead of going to a cell operator.

You make a good argument, but it's not even just rural areas. Even suburbs. TMobile is still spotty. One example is Maine. AT&T and VZW have lit up LTE. TMobile has HSPA in the city center of Portland, ME, but soon drops to EDGE when you drive 5 miles out. AT&T, VZW? full LTE.

I can drive from Boston to Washington DC and never loose LTE on AT&T, VZW. TMobile still has most major roadways in the Northeast with EDGE. How do they except us to stream music and such on the highway?

(and I'm speaking from experience. My car has a built-in TMo HSPA modem and it's mostly on EDGE, unless I'm in the middle of Boston. My VZW MiFi and AT&T phones are on LTE)

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You've totally lost your mind and are completely out of touch with reality if you think only "lower class people" care about how much their phone bill is. A higher cell phone bill isn't a sign of wealth, it's a sign of stupidity if there is a lower priced option that serves your needs.

Anyone can basically get a line on T-Mobile and Sprint without a deposit. AT&T and VZW have higher standards. This is an undisputed fact. TMobile goes after the same market as MetroPCS, etc here in Boston.
 
Kudos to T-Mobile. Those AT&T ads were out of order and also completely flawed.

People in glass houses...

It was out of order but flawed they were not!


T-Mobile DOES drop more calls than AT&T, AT&T does have a faster 4g network (considering T-Mobile doesn't even have 4g), come on now


In Atlanta at least
 
Those ads are from a loser. I mean... who cares? I didn't care about the issue until I saw those ads... what a shame.
 
"If AT&T thought our network wasn't great, why did they try to buy it?"

Damn. AT&T is going to need to apply some serious ointment for that burn.
 
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