Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
I would have expected that, but when I called to order this is what they described to me. I was upgrading from a 128GB 6Plus to a 128GB 6sPlus, and they wanted the $200 down payment again -- which is why I asked how much it would cost me if I didn't return the phone. Since I called on the first saturday they took preorders, it's also possible that the person I talked to was not trained correctly. Or it's possible that the people who did not charge for another down payment made a mistake.
But are you upgrading from Amped JOD or the Previous Jump!? Or did you finance? If you financed or did the previous JUMP! there is nowhere to go but JOD or Finance again with the $200 down.

Only Amped JOD leasers got the zero down offer.
 
Last edited:
The problem then is that you have to use your new iPhone 6s on the T Mobile network...which is TERRIBLE! We switched to T Mobile 5 months ago and have had nothing but problems! We live in Indianapolis, hardly a small town, and the cell reception is terrible! You can't rely on the coverage map they show, it's nothing like that. We had to get a wifi booster in our house because the signal was too weak. Most of the time I'm on 4G while driving around Indy, and even when I have an LTE signal it's slow. We have ordered new iPhones from Verizon and are going back, the extra money is worth it!

If you are considering a switch to T Mobile, I would strongly encourage you to look elsewhere. Their website is terrible, cell signal is terrible and the customer service is even worse!
 
  • Like
Reactions: mactracker75
The problem then is that you have to use your new iPhone 6s on the T Mobile network...which is TERRIBLE! We switched to T Mobile 5 months ago and have had nothing but problems! We live in Indianapolis, hardly a small town, and the cell reception is terrible! You can't rely on the coverage map they show, it's nothing like that. We had to get a wifi booster in our house because the signal was too weak. Most of the time I'm on 4G while driving around Indy, and even when I have an LTE signal it's slow. We have ordered new iPhones from Verizon and are going back, the extra money is worth it!

If you are considering a switch to T Mobile, I would strongly encourage you to look elsewhere. Their website is terrible, cell signal is terrible and the customer service is even worse!
Er... NO. It's a mobile carrier and all mobile carriers have cities where they don't fare as well as others. Having been with T-Mobile for two years now, I can tell you that they take customer satisfaction very, very seriously. Here in the SF Bay Area they used to be very weak (only Sprint was worse) and they now have the best coverage and the best speed (97mbps download measured at my house the other day, I couldn't believe it).
By 2017 they have planned nationwide LTE coverage that is better than all the other carriers. They really know what they're doing. Too bad it didn't work for you, but:
1) you shouldn't switch to a carrier without testing first if they offer good coverage everywhere you need it (none of them offers the best coverage in all locations)
2) why would you suffer for five months with bad coverage? Unlike other carriers they have no ETF. If it's so bad, by all means get out! At least they have the decency not to penalize you for it.
3) Just because YOU have a bad experience in your little town (Indianapolis is hardly a major market) doesn't mean the carrier is awful everywhere as you seem to imply.
 
But are you upgrading from Amped JOD or the Previous Jump!? Or did you finance? If you financed or did the previous JUMP! there is nowhere to go but JOD or Finance again with the $200 down.

Only Amped JOD leasers got the zero down offer.
Aaaah that must be it. Yes, I have the OLD plan, which includes the better-than-Apple coverage, including damage and theft. I think it's a better value than JOD. Selling on ebay shouldn't be too hard and they're running a promo where if you sell a phone for more than $410 they give you $100 credit...
 
tldr...

So I owe T-Mobile $400 for my iPhone 6, a black/gray 64 Gb model, and I've never signed up for JUMP. What happens to the amount I owe if I trade this phone in for a 64gb 6s? Do I still have to make the $27/mo payments, or do they just tack on the $5 or whatever into my current $27/mo?
 
Has anyone confirmed you would still get the trade in value for an iPhone 6 in addition to the discount? There are so many permutations I'm having trouble deciding to go with the T-Mo plan or with the Apple iPhone Upgrade program.

I have an iPhone 6 128MB on a non-Jump T-Mo payment plan that I paid $199 down and 12 payments of $27.08. The buyout is $324 which I assume I'll have to pay either way. I have a trade in offer from Amazon for $511. If T-Mo will give me the $371 the website estimates then the discount on the monthly payment more than covers the difference which makes trading in the way to go if I do their payment plan.

The big question is what happens next year. What will the buyout be after 12 vs 18 months? Or do I just give the phone back having paid $199 down and $3 a month (for a 128 6+) plus whatever insurance I decide to go with? If that is the case the T-Mo insurance may be a better idea given it's a monthly amount vs flat rate for a phone I'll only have for 1 year. There is the issue of the higher deductible and lower level of service I'm sure I'd get at T-mo vs the Apple Store. But they cover loss and theft.

So as best as I can figure out this is the breakdown...

T-Mo with trade 199 down + 132 (12x$11 which is payment and T-Mo insurance)+$140 (the diff between Amazon and T-mo trade in) = $471 for the year.

T-mo without trade $199 down + 216 ($18 a month) + 96 (insurance at $8/month) = $511 ($33 more with AppleCare+ instead of T-mo insurance)

Apple Upgrade $40.75 x 12 = $489

I'd rather just go with Apple's plan at these prices based on an unlocked phone. Am I missing anything? Will there be some additional residual value with the T-mo plans when I upgrade next year? My eyes are crossing.
 
Ok I have one more permutation to add into the mix. Having talked to 4 T-mobile customer reps (2 on the phone and 2 in-store), I am still no closer to the answer. Here are my details:
Current phone: iPhone 6, 128 GB with AT&T. Current retail price on gazelle: $371
Desired phone: iPhone 6s, 128 GB with T-mobile. Full retail price on apple.com: $849
Would like to own iPhone 6s outright at the end of the deal

According to the details on the t-mobile website:
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/iphone-6s-offer.htm

Upfront fee: $200 (actually $199.99, but lets keep the math simple)
Monthly fee with JUMP: $3/month for 18 months = $54 total
Hence total device cost I would have paid over 18 months = $200 + $54 = $254 (this excludes the cost of the plan itself)

According to this quote on the T-mobile website, if I want to own the phone outright, I should end up paying $125 lesser in total compared to the total price of the phone:

And, if you want to hang on to your iPhone after your 18 month JUMP! On Demand agreement is up, you can at T-Mobile for $125 LESS than the full retail price. That’s just $524 for a new iPhone 6s 16GB without trade in. And with iPhone 6 trade in, you can keep your iPhone 6s 16GB after 18 months, after paying just $254 in total – that’s $395 less than full retail price with trade in. In fact, T-Mobile is the only provider offering iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus at a discounted price.

Hence, the buyout I should have to pay at the end of the 18 month period is:
$849 - $125 - price of my trade-in - what I have already paid over the 18 month period
= $849 - $125 - $371 - $254
= $99

No single T-mobile rep I have talked to can confirm this. The numbers for the final buyout I have heard are either $164 or $200.

If I pay a buyout of $164, the total amount I am paying for the phone is:
$371 + $254 + $164 = $789. This is $60 cheaper than the full $849 price, not the promised $125

If I pay a buyout $200, the total amount I am paying for the phone is:
$371 + $254 + $200 = $825. This is $24 cheaper than the full $849 price, not the promised $125


Anybody here think my math is off?
 
Er... NO. It's a mobile carrier and all mobile carriers have cities where they don't fare as well as others. Having been with T-Mobile for two years now, I can tell you that they take customer satisfaction very, very seriously. Here in the SF Bay Area they used to be very weak (only Sprint was worse) and they now have the best coverage and the best speed (97mbps download measured at my house the other day, I couldn't believe it).
By 2017 they have planned nationwide LTE coverage that is better than all the other carriers. They really know what they're doing. Too bad it didn't work for you, but:
1) you shouldn't switch to a carrier without testing first if they offer good coverage everywhere you need it (none of them offers the best coverage in all locations)
2) why would you suffer for five months with bad coverage? Unlike other carriers they have no ETF. If it's so bad, by all means get out! At least they have the decency not to penalize you for it.
3) Just because YOU have a bad experience in your little town (Indianapolis is hardly a major market) doesn't mean the carrier is awful everywhere as you seem to imply.


Indy has about the same population at San Francisco, so I'm pretty sure it's a major market.
 
argh, my mother-in-law cracked the screen on her iPhone5c so I can't use that as a trade in and we've just moved house and I can't find any of our old iPhones (I think my wife "recycled" them...) does anyone have a suggestion on what I can do between now and 8am Friday that's cheap?

Hey! My daughter recycled (in the garbage?) the vacuum cleaner ($200+) I gave her in college because it "quit working" even though she KNOWS I repair everything that stops working if it can be repaired.

Those old phones can still be used if the adapter, USB or AC, is still around. At least, put it into a waterproof container and in your vehicle so it can be used in case of an emergency (calling 9-1-1).
 
Ok I have one more permutation to add into the mix. Having talked to 4 T-mobile customer reps (2 on the phone and 2 in-store), I am still no closer to the answer. Here are my details:
Current phone: iPhone 6, 128 GB with AT&T. Current retail price on gazelle: $371
Desired phone: iPhone 6s, 128 GB with T-mobile. Full retail price on apple.com: $849
Would like to own iPhone 6s outright at the end of the deal

According to the details on the t-mobile website:
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/iphone-6s-offer.htm

Upfront fee: $200 (actually $199.99, but lets keep the math simple)
Monthly fee with JUMP: $3/month for 18 months = $54 total
Hence total device cost I would have paid over 18 months = $200 + $54 = $254 (this excludes the cost of the plan itself)

According to this quote on the T-mobile website, if I want to own the phone outright, I should end up paying $125 lesser in total compared to the total price of the phone:



Hence, the buyout I should have to pay at the end of the 18 month period is:
$849 - $125 - price of my trade-in - what I have already paid over the 18 month period
= $849 - $125 - $371 - $254
= $99

No single T-mobile rep I have talked to can confirm this. The numbers for the final buyout I have heard are either $164 or $200.

If I pay a buyout of $164, the total amount I am paying for the phone is:
$371 + $254 + $164 = $789. This is $60 cheaper than the full $849 price, not the promised $125

If I pay a buyout $200, the total amount I am paying for the phone is:
$371 + $254 + $200 = $825. This is $24 cheaper than the full $849 price, not the promised $125


Anybody here think my math is off?

Have you factored in the sales tax on the FULL price of the 6s, $850 (keeping it simple)?
 
Have you factored in the sales tax on the FULL price of the 6s, $850 (keeping it simple)?

Nope, sales tax not included in my calculations. I am guessing that's going to bring down the savings a tick but I am also assuming that $125 savings quoted in the T-mobile website does not take sales tax into account. As you can see, the example they give for the savings on a 16 GB iPhone 6s does not take sales tax into account.
 
This.
An iPhone 6 in good conditions worths much more than 270$!
Where's the deal?

The deal comes in that on top of your trade in credit you receive a bill credit of $22 a month off your bill. BUT you only really get the benefit if you stick with the lease for the entire 18 months. As soon as you jump to a new phone you will lose that $22/mo credit.

I can confirm this as I got them to let me trade in my old HTC diamond today. I'm only getting $1 for the phone but my monthly credit has gone from $23/mo to $18/mo aka a $12 credit each month.
 
Indy has about the same population at San Francisco, so I'm pretty sure it's a major market.
If you only count the city, yes, SF is only marginally more populated than Indianapolis. However, the SF Bay Area includes the Silicon Valley and the East Bay, for a total of near 8M. So no, sorry, Indianapolis is not a major market.
 
We still don't know how much the buyout prices are... If the iPhone 6s is $5/mo. for 18 months, that's just $90. Surely the buyout is more than $164 (or else the total cost of a $650 iPhone 6s would just $254)?

From their announcement page (http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/iphone-6s-offer.htm):
And with iPhone 6 trade in, you can keep your iPhone 6s 16GB after 18 months, after paying just $254 in total – that’s $395 less than full retail price with trade in.

The thing is, you only get that sweet $5/month deal if you turn in a phone. So it's actually costing you $254 and an iPhone 6.

Now take into account this (also from the announcement page):
That’s just $524 for a new iPhone 6s 16GB without trade in.

And you realize that they're actually only giving you $270 ($524-$254) for an iPhone 6. It's not a good deal, IMO.

Edit: Sorry if someone had already replied to you with the same information. I obviously arrived late to this thread and haven't read all 8 pages of comments.
 
I'm paying $110 a month for 2.5gb each on a family plan of 5 phones. Tmobile is pretty generous.

The caps are only for LTE data. 2g data is unlimited after you hit your cap.

You can get Unlimited LTE for $30 each on top of your bill. Still reasonable.

May or may not be worth the extra $50 a month to you, but you could switch to the #10Gigs4All plan, and you would have 10 GB of data on each line for $160/mo... :)
 
The problem then is that you have to use your new iPhone 6s on the T Mobile network...which is TERRIBLE! We switched to T Mobile 5 months ago and have had nothing but problems! We live in Indianapolis, hardly a small town, and the cell reception is terrible! You can't rely on the coverage map they show, it's nothing like that. We had to get a wifi booster in our house because the signal was too weak. Most of the time I'm on 4G while driving around Indy, and even when I have an LTE signal it's slow. We have ordered new iPhones from Verizon and are going back, the extra money is worth it!

If you are considering a switch to T Mobile, I would strongly encourage you to look elsewhere. Their website is terrible, cell signal is terrible and the customer service is even worse!


Yeah it just depends on the city. I live in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and their service is awesome here!
 
May or may not be worth the extra $50 a month to you, but you could switch to the #10Gigs4All plan, and you would have 10 GB of data on each line for $160/mo... :)

It's not. I only use 2 gigs are month or so. I mean it'd be nice to have and to be able to consume more video on the go, but budget is also really tight for all of us. We don't live together... On top of that we also pay for our parents' lines so the 3 kids (we're all in our mid 20s and 30s) have to take the brunt of the cost and they never break 200mb a month. Seems like a waste.

If they did more of a Mix and Match where 3 of us could get 10gb for the deal and the 2 parents get the standard data rate it would be ideal.
 
Last edited:
Seems like a good deal.

So you can get an iPhone 6s - 64GB for:

$99 down
$19 x 18 months = $342
$164 buy out phone at end of 18 months

So $605 total for an iPhone 6s 64GB without trade in. Of course add tax.

Am I missing something?
 
Seems like a good deal.

So you can get an iPhone 6s - 64GB for:

$99 down
$19 x 18 months = $342
$164 buy out phone at end of 18 months

So $605 total for an iPhone 6s 64GB without trade in. Of course add tax.

Am I missing something?

Your buyout price at the end is wrong. No matter what you get your buyout savings will only be $126 before tax. The phone you are looking at retails for $749 so your buy out at the end will be $624 total. Not including tax.

The way they have their system worked out that is the only savings you get from purchasing. Which is still good IMO.
 
Ok I have one more permutation to add into the mix. Having talked to 4 T-mobile customer reps (2 on the phone and 2 in-store), I am still no closer to the answer. Here are my details:
Current phone: iPhone 6, 128 GB with AT&T. Current retail price on gazelle: $371
Desired phone: iPhone 6s, 128 GB with T-mobile. Full retail price on apple.com: $849
Would like to own iPhone 6s outright at the end of the deal

According to the details on the t-mobile website:
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/iphone-6s-offer.htm

Upfront fee: $200 (actually $199.99, but lets keep the math simple)
Monthly fee with JUMP: $3/month for 18 months = $54 total
Hence total device cost I would have paid over 18 months = $200 + $54 = $254 (this excludes the cost of the plan itself)

According to this quote on the T-mobile website, if I want to own the phone outright, I should end up paying $125 lesser in total compared to the total price of the phone:



Hence, the buyout I should have to pay at the end of the 18 month period is:
$849 - $125 - price of my trade-in - what I have already paid over the 18 month period
= $849 - $125 - $371 - $254
= $99

No single T-mobile rep I have talked to can confirm this. The numbers for the final buyout I have heard are either $164 or $200.

If I pay a buyout of $164, the total amount I am paying for the phone is:
$371 + $254 + $164 = $789. This is $60 cheaper than the full $849 price, not the promised $125

If I pay a buyout $200, the total amount I am paying for the phone is:
$371 + $254 + $200 = $825. This is $24 cheaper than the full $849 price, not the promised $125


Anybody here think my math is off?
You can do so much better selling on eBay or craiglist. The amount gazzelle is offering is ridiculously low. Also, from what I have read, T-Mobile is offering to save you the same amount as Gazzelle if you trade in your iPhone. So in essence, T-Mobile is getting into the secondary market themself and cutting out the middle man like gazzelle. The terms are purposely confusing so that people would think its a good deal. It's not, just like the gazzelle deal.
 
This is what is happening to me and i have spoken to Tmobile three times to confirm. (mostly because i wanted to make sure i was getting the promotion and so i had more questions)

i thought i would share my situation since there seems to be a lot of mis-information on here. Your best bet is to call them and talk through the different options and scenarios. Each person i talked to was very nice

I am on a family plan with unlimited data etc.....with iphone6 space grey 64gb on the regular Jump program from my upgrade last year. My payment is about $27 a month for the phone plus the jump program insurance.

Current bill looks like this:
$40 family plan
$27 iPhone 6 monthly charge
$10 Jump Insurance/warranty
$77 Total

$6 Taxes and Fees

$83 Grand Total


Now i am upgrading through this promotion Jump On Demand program to iPhone 6s 64gb space grey (same color and size)

I am trading in my current phone which has a trade in value of about $330 according to the rep. ( if i remember correctly) the trade in will wipe out what i have left on my equipment plan.

the current balance on my equipment is LESS than the Trade-In value. My balance is about $320 so they will be putting the difference as a credit to my current bill. So for this example i will see a $10 credit on my next bill. (yes i understand i could have kept the phone and resell it and all that jazz but i dont want to deal with it) By the way i am never going to a tmobile store. they are sending me a prepaid package slip where i can send my trade in phone back to them through UPS.

because i am trading my phone in and going through this promotion my future bill in October or the following bill depending when they process the switch for the trade in.

$40 family plan
$27 iphone 6s monthly charge
$(22) bill credit for the promotion
$8 jump insurance/warrenty (she explained that this was 2bucks cheaper now so i switched)
$53 Total

Up front cost was $99 +tax on the 99 because i am getting 64gb

no tax payment on the Total Phone cost that you had to pay upfront like in the past.

Also keep in mind that the $27 iphone 6s monthly charge is going towards your equipment plan so this will lower your buyout cost at the end awhile still paying less along the way.

hope this helps and i hope its clear.

sorry if its a wall of text

Quantum
 
Your buyout price at the end is wrong. No matter what you get your buyout savings will only be $126 before tax. The phone you are looking at retails for $749 so your buy out at the end will be $624 total. Not including tax.

The way they have their system worked out that is the only savings you get from purchasing. Which is still good IMO.

Still a great deal

So you can get a 64GB iPhone 6s for less than $650

No reason for people to grumble about 16GB
 
  • Like
Reactions: MrXiro
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.