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I never liked smartphones at all really until I got my iPhone. I was never a Sidekick fan and thats all this seems like to me. Might be too early to tell but it doesn't boast anything special. At this point nothing is new, ordinary or groundbreaking. iPhone has pretty much done it all, multi-touch screen, app store, navigation and now finally 3G. I'm not saying it's the best device the world's seen, but I am more than happy with it. Devices could come out and be similar to it and do well, but it's just not going to have the shock value that iPhone did when it came out.
 
Android on an MS device? :eek:
LOL....


T-Mobile owns the brand "SideKick". While all current and prior models of the SideKick run on DangerOS (Java-based) and the Danger browser, the hardware has been built by others under contract to T-Mobile. Thus if Microsoft dumps the DangerOS and Danger browser and says that all future models are WindowsMobile only, T-Mobile can request that the hardware manufacturer of the next SideKick uses Android for the OS.

Thus Microsoft wasted half a billion dollars acquiring Danger in order to design the ZunePhone that nobody asked for. Ha ha.


<---Laughs at Monkeyboy Ballmer. For his sake, he better hope McCain doesn't go back on his comment from many months ago about appointing him to his Cabinet. Of course, I hope McCain's advisers are bright enough to select a different tech industry alum of Republican cloth. After all, there's plenty of them in Silicon Valley (just not at Apple or Google). TJ Rogers, Scott McNealy (yeah, I know, he's Bizarro Ballmer), or the Bruce Wayne/Tony Stark-esque Larry Ellison. :)
 
i'm psyched to see how the android phone(s) play(s) out... while i don't see myself giving up my iphone anytime soon, it's SO nice to see that phone manufacturers and phone software developers are trying their hardest to compete. i can't wait for the days when the current motorola/sony ericsson/nokia software is phased out for something a lot more manageable and user friendly. the iphone and (hopefully) android are HUGE steps for the cell phone industry. :)


Personally, I'm hoping for dramatic change in the industry, kickstarted by a Motorola/SonyEricsson merger. Then quite possibly a Palm/RIM merger or a Palm/Nokia merger.

As for carriers, I really wish Vodafone would liquidate their holdings in Verizon Wireless and then make an unsolicited bid for AT&T's wireless division. I'm still cheesed off that the former SBC (now AT&T) was able to steal the original AT&T Wireless away from the clutches of Vodafone. We'd have much cheaper handsets today had Vodafone been successful. I'd really like to see all the American mobile phone companies be independent of the traditional telcos and actually be in competition with them again.
 
I can't believe some of you people! Just because you own an iPhone and you're a Mac loyal fan, you think iPhone is automatically always better than other phones all around? I bet many of you have complained about your new 3G for various issues, or even exchanged it just to achieve "perfection".

HTC has been making phones long before Apple started the first iPhone. Don't get me wrong. I think iPhone 3G is a great device, but this new device by HTC is definitely newer than 3G. Don't you think it's only reasonable to pass on judgement after you have check it out? To say that it won't have the features of iPhone or that iPhone is better at this point is just lame.

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Considering that its what? 400 x 320 res I'd say its hard to say anything at all. All I know is that will be my next phone simply because ATT is out as is Verizon. That leaves T Mob... the catch is that I need a REAL keyboard. So that leaves either the Wing which has a neutered CPU so the GUI is sluggish or the Dream that sounds like it should be speedy.

as for anything special. I'd suggest going to youtube and search for Android GPS street view. Blows Maps on the iPhone out the water and then some.

Real keyboard? Meh. I've had them. I didn't care too much, because they can lag just as much as Apple's. Plus, the buttons are way too small for any real typing.

I *have* viewed other videos and websites showing the Android OS and the phone. Read the rest of the thread and you'll see that I made comments on them. Streetview will be absolutely useless until they have more cities, in my opinion.
 
Whuaaaah??Yeah, because the iPhone keyboard is sooooo wonderful! - NOT!!

:rolleyes:

I hated the keyboard on the Cingular 8125. The keyboard would lag just as much as Apple's keyboard, because it was going through Windows OS. I'm not saying Apple's keyboard is wonderful, but I don't think I compared Google's phone's keyboard to the iPhone in that comment. Hmm...
 
Lol, of course most of the people here are going to think this phone can't touch their Iphone, and in some cases it definitely will not. I have been an Iphone fan for quite some time but never bought one (I renewed my contract with ATT and got a Cingular 3125/HTC Star Trek right before Iphone came out). But you have to realize.. that anything an Iphone can do, these WM and Android phones can do as well.. the hardware supports it and there is less restriction on the software development. The Iphone shines with the delivery and the aesthetic factors of usage. It looks good, it appeals to the general public, and its easy to use. It will probably always outsell all other phones. But for people who are savvy enough to learn to cultivate the true potential of these WM and Android phones that aren't as proprietary as the Iphone's software and OS ultimately are rewarded with more functionality, albeit not as "flashy".

In addition, Jailbreaking your Iphone voids all your warranties. Also, I don't think AT&T offers a 5$ a month insurance plan for the Iphone ,but it DOES offer it with other smartphones. Tmobile currently offers such a plan for all their smartphones, and will likely offer the same for this Android.

And someone said that teens are likely to upgrade their sidekicks to this HTC Dream... actually they are more likely to upgrade to the Iphone because of its ease of use and "hip factor". The operating systems that rely much more on end users to create software for are most likely to be picked up by the power user.
 
How exactly is this a page one MAC rumor?

Does this have anything at all to do with apple?
 
Looks Geeky

I am sure Linux users will love having more mobile devices to port applications to and customize, but the masses don't want to fool with a mini desktop environment. We geeks can relate but we take soooo much for granted. iPhone is keeping it very simple and stable with tons of support and accessories for hardware.
 
I am sure Linux users will love having more mobile devices to port applications to and customize, but the masses don't want to fool with a mini desktop environment. We geeks can relate but we take soooo much for granted. iPhone is keeping it very simple and stable with tons of support and accessories for hardware.


true.. but who wants to be just like the masses? :cool: The Iphone does an exceptional job of keeping it simple.. and restricted.
For me, when all is said and done, it boils down to functionality that doesn't void your warranty. The Iphone 3G is a great device and I am still definately considering getting one, but I need to see what this HTC Dream and the HTC Touch Pro have to offer over the Iphone 3G and ATT Tilt/HTC Kaiser
 
How exactly is this a page one MAC rumor?

Does this have anything at all to do with apple?

Of the 10 stories on page 1 of MACrumors right now, only 2 are about MACs. This is actually a fairly high percentage if you look at recent history.

In other words, few of the stories on MACrumors are about MACs - so this is a page 1 story.

If you want to read stories about MACs, don't read MACrumors. :eek:
 
I think the slide-out keyboard is cute, but, it's like having a manual typewriter permanently attached to your phone. You're stuck with a qwerty keyboard that can't be changed ever. The touch-screen keyboard can easily be modified with a software update, plus you can call up various types of keyboards (like ones with a ".com" key for typing web addresses). I personally think that's much better.

Plus, with all those moving and sliding parts, there's more potential for it to break.

The linux world has proved that a totally open platform pretty much sucks. Its a nice hobby for people with no life.

That's a funny statement considering that a large majority of the web servers in the world run some flavor of Unix/Linux, and Apple's OS is based on Unix, too. I guess Steve Jobs has no life.

However, the one thing I don't like (actually, the one thing a I hate) is how quickly Mac loyalists are to bash other companies and their accomplishments and automatically assume they're just copying Apple... Sorry for the potentially harsh words, but I one of my biggest pet peeves is closed minded people.

Well, a lot of companies have copied from Apple over the years.
 
I think the slide-out keyboard is cute, but, it's like having a manual typewriter permanently attached to your phone. You're stuck with a qwerty keyboard that can't be changed ever. The touch-screen keyboard can easily be modified with a software update, plus you can call up various types of keyboards (like ones with a ".com" key for typing web addresses). I personally think that's much better.

My Windows phone has both a slide out keyboard and a soft keyboard if I choose. (and I almost always choose the slide-out keyboard - I hate the soft keyboard on my Ipod Touch, simply horrible compared to physical keys IMO)

Do MacBooks suck because they have a QWERTY keyboard that can't be changed, ever?


Originally Posted by herbalizer
The linux world has proved that a totally open platform pretty much sucks. Its a nice hobby for people with no life.​

That's a funny statement considering that a large majority of the web servers in the world run some flavor of Unix/Linux, and Apple's OS is based on Unix, too. I guess Steve Jobs has no life.

Wow, I'm ROTFLOL to see "Apple" and "open" linked together.

Comparing what is used on single-purpose web servers and what is needed for a multi-purpose desktop or handheld is silly.

It's like saying "most semi-tractor trucks have diesel engines, therefore a car with a gasoline engine is stupid". Gas makes sense in a car, Linux is a pain on the desktop.

Linux (or Windows Mobile or Symbian or Android or...) can all make sense in a phone or handheld - it's all about the apps, nobody cares what the underlying OS is.
 
My Windows phone has both a slide out keyboard and a soft keyboard if I choose. (and I almost always choose the slide-out keyboard - I hate the soft keyboard on my Ipod Touch, simply horrible compared to physical keys IMO)

I'm glad that you enjoy using your slide-out qwerty keyboard on your Windows phone. I'm also glad the iPhone doesn't have or need one.

Linking what is used on single-purpose web servers and what is needed for a multi-purpose desktop handheld is silly.
Yea, that Open Office is just silly.
 
And what does "open" really mean, anyway? To some people, it's not open unless it's open source. To others, it means the APIs are published so that anyone can program for it.

Well, most of the open source software used by Apple is either published under the BSD or the GPL license, which is about as open source as you can get. If you want to know what it means, the licenses are pretty straightforward to read.
 
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