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t-mobile may be a giant in Germany, but it's pretty much non-existent in other countries, so they'll have to go with separate companies, not like in the US. maybe they'll have to go with the least amount of "good" companies all over Europe, vodafone is a sure bet for me (applied for a job there recently, hope i get a discount for the iphone) :) :) :) .
other than that, 3g is another "Yes" for me, since that's the only thing that works over here.
and another thing, 400+ euro for the 8gb iphone is NOTHING!!!!
take a look at the market and you'll find pretty ****ty phones out there that
cost way more than 400 euro, and the market it's targetting, "smart phones"
start from around 500 so it's gonna be a big hit i think! :)
damn, can't wait!!!
 
i fear that the only reason t-mobile gets the iphone ist because of the fact that they are the only network-provider in germany with edge-support. i think everyone uses umts, but they also have edge ;(....

One further reason for choosing T-Mobile in Germany could be the fact that T-Mobile pushes his new "web'n'walk" (mobile internet) rate plans at the moment.
 
It makes sense that Germany's biggest mobile operator gets the iPhone. I don't believe its because of EDGE or anything else.

In the UK Vodafone will be the carrier of choice. A 3G iPhone for the EU is almost a given because of the lack of EDGE. Apple would be committing commercial suicide to release the iPhone in the EU without something better than GPRS. This device is meant to be a connected device and with the lack of wifi hotspots 3G is the only way to go for the majority of Europe.
 
T-mobile has always been a dutch company, so um it will be in holland for ya

Always funny, the differnce between dutch and german:eek:

German = Deutsch (country: Germany)
Dutch = Nederlands (country: The Netherlands a.k.a. Holland)
 
I would not bet on 3G iPhone. The point here is, that T-Mobile also offers a good EDGE coverage, that Vodafone did not.

However, I had a talk with an employee and got it confirmed.

I have exactly the same doubts. If Apple went with Tmobile because of EDGE (AFAIK o2 has no EDGE) then it is highly probable that we won't see a 3G iPhone this year.
 
So does this mean that the US will see another model before the end of the year? My guess was that Apple would have a iPhone 2.0 model released [or 3G model] before Xmas.

pretty uneducated guess in my opinion seeing as apple just had 500,000 people buy a phone in June and there would be immense backlash, not to mention quite a small market for an updated iphone as everyone just bought one this week. Apple will not update the iPhone for christmas, they will just push the current product as much as they can, which probably includes branching out to other sales outlets. once initial demand is met and they can get on their feet, i don't see what would prevent apple from selling iPhones at target, best buy and the like, if all they have to do is activate through iTunes. But look at every other one of apple's products, they don't come out with a brand new device and update it 6 months later.



edit: I mean, as much as I would love to see a 3g Phone, it is kind of a bummer that the european market may not have one, I have a feeling that combined with the higher price point and lack of 3G our buddies across the pond won't show nearly the demand we did here in the states. Oh well, time will tell.
 
t-mobile may be a giant in Germany, but it's pretty much non-existent in other countries

What are you talking about? Tmobile exists in at least a dozen of countries: Germany, USA, UK, Poland, Netherlands, Austria, Czech Republic, Hungary, Slovakia, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro.
 
pretty uneducated guess in my opinion seeing as apple just had 500,000 people buy a phone in June and there would be immense backlash, not to mention quite a small market for an updated iphone as everyone just bought one this week. Apple will not update the iPhone for christmas, they will just push the current product as much as they can, which probably includes branching out to other sales outlets.

Apple produced 3 million iPhones just for the US sales launch. What's after the 3rd million?
 
Why do so many people in The US think they deserve 3G before everyone else? I think its about time Europe sees some love before The US, and the main reason Apple hasn't gone 3G in the states is because there is hardly any coverage of 3G in the US and Europe is practically fully covered with 3G signal. Fair enough?

I don't know about Europe, but 3G coverage in the UK is not the best. It coveres the main cities, but even large towns are left with little or no coverage. Vodafone has the best 3G coverage by far in the UK, coming from a former O2 employee. It's common knowlage that Voda are ahead in terms of 3G coverage.

I'm sure they'e stopped, or at least slowed down their investment in the network though. I could be wrong there.

Jay
 
T-Mobile's 3G service is currently available to 60% of German population.
Perhaps, but it is concentrated only around the major cities: UMTS Map. EDGE is far more pervasive.

I also agree with another poster that EUR 450 for the 8mb phone is impossible...550 - 600 is more like it. Bear in mind that in Germany a 19% Value-Added Tax (VAT) is always included in the price, unlike in the US where sales tax is added to the posted sales price.
 
well for the US we are the same... same language..... same land...

not, not the same language but quite close. dutch sounds like a weired mixture between german and english. i was once sitting in a train next to a dutch couple and constantly wondering whether they were german or british. it took me literally half an hour to figure out that they were dutch.....


and t-mobile is more german than mercedes....it was a state owned company not so long ago!

what interest me most is: will i be able to use a att iphone with a german t-mobile card or vice versa? i want to buy an iphone but i cannot afford two (one for each country, are they NUTS?).
 
that is another good point. t-mobile is the only network in germany that has edge an has invested a lot of money in a wide-spread network of wifi-hotspots.... :(

It makes sense that Germany's biggest mobile operator gets the iPhone. I don't believe its because of EDGE or anything else.

In the UK Vodafone will be the carrier of choice. A 3G iPhone for the EU is almost a given because of the lack of EDGE. Apple would be committing commercial suicide to release the iPhone in the EU without something better than GPRS. This device is meant to be a connected device and with the lack of wifi hotspots 3G is the only way to go for the majority of Europe.
 
not, not the same language but quite close. dutch sounds like a weired mixture between german and english. i was once sitting in a train next to a dutch couple and constantly wondering whether they were german or british. it took me literally half an hour to figure out that they were dutch.....


and t-mobile is more german than mercedes....it was a state owned company not so long ago!

what interest me most is: will i be able to use a att iphone with a german t-mobile card or vice versa? i want to buy an iphone but i cannot afford two (one for each country, are they NUTS?).

Gfive is Dutch, so he probably knows where he's talking about:p I think he meant that Americans see it as the same language...:eek:
 
Sounds greate... But?

What about the rest of EU? I live in Denmark and T-Mobile is not in Denmark... The only thing that I know is that Vodaphone works with Danish TDC...?

I want a iPhone :( :D :apple:
 
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