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T-Mobile to Sell iPhone in Germany: November 1st?
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They better release the 3G that I know is already in the works over here.
We shouldn't be punished for having 3G, wasn't Apple's reason for not making it 3g because no devices work on AT&T's 3G network yet, that or there isn't enough coverage?
But if they do, they'll upset the American customers. So I doubt they will. Which is unfair really considering they get everything 1st anyway, surely people shouldn't be upset if we got a 3G version of the iPhone before them just once.
We shouldn't be punished for having 3G, wasn't Apple's reason for not making it 3g because no devices work on AT&T's 3G network yet, that or there isn't enough coverage?
But if they do, they'll upset the American customers. So I doubt they will. Which is unfair really considering they get everything 1st anyway, surely people shouldn't be upset if we got a 3G version of the iPhone before them just once.
Be prepared for the unexpected...
surprise carrier maybe
buy some food, clothes and an iphone all at one place 
but wouldn't this be the same case in the US
Because, for the umpteenth time, 3G is nowhere as ubiquitous in the US as it is in the UK and mainland Europe. You don't introduce a feature with a universal negative (increased battery drain) if the positive it confers is far from universal.
Now, I'm not saying that Apple won't try to launch the iPhone as is into the European market, but they will lose a boatload of money if they think that a market that's used to paying nothing for their phones will drop a substantial amount of cash for a phone with no 3G and no MMS. I'd also put video recording on that list as well, frankly.
Cheers!
Jim
surprise carrier maybe
Ah, so Tesco will have an exclusive on the iPhone, then, it's pretty much taking over everything else in the world
I remember reading somewhere (here most likely) that network coverage, battery life and size concerns were the biggest factors in not going 3G.
Hopefully by the time they come to Australia the iPhone will be 3G, as all carriers here now offer 3G services - with good coverage too.
Agreed, MMS and video recording/playback are musts, as is 3G. Personally, I think it will have to be subsidised, too, if it's sold with a contract.
What about Italy??
The thing that really annoys me is that the phone is locked. I mean when i travel I like to put in a local sim card in order to pay less for calls. Roaming has got to be the biggest rip-off anyone could imagine. I am also concerned that Apple has not figured on the difference across Europe in terms of markets. We might be 'one economic family' but we are a little bit dysfunctional.
The thing that really annoys me is that the phone is locked. I mean when i travel I like to put in a local sim card in order to pay less for calls. Roaming has got to be the biggest rip-off anyone could imagine. I am also concerned that Apple has not figured on the difference across Europe in terms of markets. We might be 'one economic family' but we are a little bit dysfunctional.
Bad news
This sucks. T-Mobile is basically to Germany what ATT is to the USA. They might not have lame selling practices like ATT but they are bad for many other reasons. Besides, their pink logo is so ugly I don't think the IPhone can keep looking decent with it. T-Mobile comes from a socialist past when it was a state monopoly linked to the German Telecom. They were horrible and did everything in their power to lobby governments in an effort to block competition. That's how they became so rich they could expand in so many countries.
This sucks. T-Mobile is basically to Germany what ATT is to the USA. They might not have lame selling practices like ATT but they are bad for many other reasons. Besides, their pink logo is so ugly I don't think the IPhone can keep looking decent with it. T-Mobile comes from a socialist past when it was a state monopoly linked to the German Telecom. They were horrible and did everything in their power to lobby governments in an effort to block competition. That's how they became so rich they could expand in so many countries.
Nah, at least for Japan it would be no option. They have no EDGE, only UMTS and dying iMode and a simple fallback compatible GSM Mode for foreign country cellphones. So Apple have to release a 3G iPhone for Japan I think.
If this is true, it is marvellous news
While T-Mobile has bad support and normally terrible data transfer charges (main reason their 3G network, while available, never really took off) - they do have the best GSM coverage across the country, the have plenty of WiFi hot-spots and they do have GPRS/EDGE, so the iPhone in its current form will work! I would not have dropped my T-Mobile contract for the iPhone and was afraid Vod will get it. Happy!
I just do not believe the prices quoted in the article - the phone will be more expensive (more like 600-650 EUR) and that is OK, I paid 935 EUR for my Nokia 8800 when it came out and compared to the iPhone it is nothing (well, except for the Ryuichi Sakamoto ring tones
)... and there is no way T-Mobile will give away unlimited data for that price.Cheers
I do believe that T-Mobile gets the Phone because of their EDGE network. Makes more sense to me. I don't see a 3G iPhone in November. Apples update cycles are longer and the UMTS network is not ready. Next years iPhone will be different. I guess a new version comes out around March-May. By then they will add 3G.
Ah, so Tesco will have an exclusive on the iPhone, then, it's pretty much taking over everything else in the world
7/11's seem to be springing up everywhere too
It would be interesting to see who they go with when they release in Asia/Australia. The muppet in charge of Telstra (largest mobile coverage in Australia) at the moment said,some time ago, Apple shouldn't enter the phone market and they have no interest in carrying the product.
Wonder if he needed a hand removing the foot from his mouth after the success of the US release
EDIT: Found the article "stick your knitting" Steve
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37710I don't want their disgusting ping logo on my nice iPhone either LOL.
T-Mobile in the UK is one of the not so popular networks.
Over here in the UK It's Orange & 02 I'd say.
Orange used to be good at good customer service but they don't care now that they've got such a lead.
T-Mobile in the UK is one of the not so popular networks.
Over here in the UK It's Orange & 02 I'd say.
Orange used to be good at good customer service but they don't care now that they've got such a lead.
Be prepared for the unexpected...
Let's see... I was nearly killed twice during the past 7 years. So English and UK craziness isn't nothing to boot on a lorry you know?
It would be the petrol prices that drive me up the wollocks but I think that I will manage.
All but the 3G could be added through software/firmware updates couldn't it?
Personally I couldn't care about MMS and video, as I think I have used them maybe once or twice on any phone (2 or 3G) I have ever had.
I would be more than happy to take the US model right now..... **goes to check on how the unlocking is going**
Don't cry because of your petrol prices.... come to Europe and pay much more for it!
I think what Apple is doing is, release the iPhone with EDGE in the United States, and release it in any other countries that has EDGE, if the carrier is willing to bend over for Apple. If those two conditions are met, your country gets the iPhone.
If either one of those conditions are not met, no iPhone for you. At least until Apple feels that the United States market is ready for 3G, then it will release a 3G iPhone for the US, and then release the iPhone to those countries omitted because of the conditions above.
If either one of those conditions are not met, no iPhone for you. At least until Apple feels that the United States market is ready for 3G, then it will release a 3G iPhone for the US, and then release the iPhone to those countries omitted because of the conditions above.
Budweiser is great beer!
Gosh, I'd forgotten about that - it IS good beer. A few pints of that on a hot summer's evening is very pleasant.
The only _believable_ factor for not including 3G in the current iPhone is UMTS penetration in the US. As for the battery, that is complete and utter rubbish. Other phone vendors have UMTS phones and their battery life is just fine.