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Yes it should! I pay for water by the gallon. I pay for electricity by the kilowatt hour. I pay for gas by the gallon. Why should internet, which is like any other utility, be any different? Why not pay per unit used?

Paying per unit incentivizes users and service providers to be efficient. I will try to connect to WiFi whenever possible, and apps like Spotify can compete on data usage (i.e., imagine Spotify advertising same sound quality as Apple Music but uses 25% less data)

Paying for "unlimited" incentivizes waste from both customers and service providers. Why bother compressing the images - customer won't care.

No, paying per unit does not incentivize service providers to be efficient. They are incentivized by the profit motive. TMo is offering "unlimited" to attract more customers and increase subscription revenue. The part you are missing is that improved
technology has lowered the cost and the strain to TMobile's data network, allowing them to innovate in the way they provide service. They are also competing aggressively with other mobile providers. That's not how gas and water work. Wholesale gas prices are actually HIGHER than they were a few months ago (although improved fracking technology is lowering longer run production costs).

The takeaway for me is how exciting it is to see the free market at work delivering improved mobile internet with each passing year. Enjoy it, or wax nostalgic for the days when AOL charged by the hour if you like.
 
Well since sound quality is directly proportional to compression rate (and because of that, file size) you can't deliver 256kbps audio and use any less than 256 kb per second.

That's just not true. Or rather, it is true only if the compression algorithm is constant.

256kbps MP2 is going to have a different sound quality than 256kbps MP3 is going to have a different sound quality than 256kbps AAC is going to have a different sound quality than 256kbps WMA is going to have a different sound quality than 256kbps OGG. Some compression algorithms are better than others.

Some people say that 256kbps AAC is the same approximate sound quality as 320kbps MP3. Thus, the AAC file of the song will be smaller in size, and use less data to stream, than the same song in MP3 of the same quality.
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Enjoy it, or wax nostalgic for the days when AOL charged by the hour if you like.

Data is not measured in hours.
 
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Coverage is actually pretty good. I switched from AT&T about a year and a half ago, because AT&T kept trying to boot me of my grandfathered unlimited plan. AT&T charged me more for it, and they didn't let me use my phone as a hotspot. T-Mobile gave me a lot more, for way less price.

Over the past year and change I've noticed T-Mobile's network getting much better, to the point where I never have outages, even when traveling. I now seem to get as many or more bars than my Verizon & AT&T buddies. Actually, much more than AT&T. And the data rates seem almost better than the competition. T-Mobile's network is not a joke anymore. Seriously, look at the growth over the past 1-2 years. Major infrastructure investments. And lots of new towers with cutting edge speeds.

But here's the best part - every time I turn around, T-Mobile keeps cutting my bill. heck, reading this announcement, looks like I just saved myself ~$20mo. Not bad. With AT&T, every time I checked my bill they seemed to increase it.

Really, how many service providers are continually lowering costs for their subscribers? How many are simplifying their bills? How many keep adding new benefits, without charging? T-Mobile does.

Yeah, I'm feeling good about having switched.

Please note that this includes unlimited everything. It's not a bad deal.


The coverage is the kicker for me. They are getting better, but even though I live in a big city, their coverage is still not as good as ATT or Verizon.
 
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For myself, my wife and son, this would cost $140 a month and that does not include any phone costs. If you add a couple of phones it's going to be $200 a month. Doesn't sound very exciting to me.
 
I have Verizon and I use about 8 gig per month and it's a little more expensive because I share with my family so we're always tempted to switch to something unlimited, but where I live Verizon is king and every other carrier has about half as good service. So it's either have unlimited ****** data or really good data with a cap.
 
Yes it should! I pay for water by the gallon. I pay for electricity by the kilowatt hour. I pay for gas by the gallon. Why should internet, which is like any other utility, be any different? Why not pay per unit used?

Paying per unit incentivizes users and service providers to be efficient. I will try to connect to WiFi whenever possible, and apps like Spotify can compete on data usage (i.e., imagine Spotify advertising same sound quality as Apple Music but uses 25% less data)

Paying for "unlimited" incentivizes waste from both customers and service providers. Why bother compressing the images - customer won't care.

There is always a catch, just give it time.
 
Read some of the fine print (red is my callout). I like my current t-mobile plan better. It's cheaper and has more benefits for now.

On all plans, during congestion the top 3% of data users (>28GB/mo.) may notice reduced speeds until next bill cycle. Video typically streams on smartphone/tablet at DVD quality (480p). Tethering at Max 3G speeds. Sales tax and regulatory fees included in monthly service price.
 
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Water is recycled. I take a gallon of clean water from my tap, I return half a gallon of dirty water through the sewer or back into the ground, I evaporate half a gallon into the air, and I keep some tiny amount in my body until I die, at which point its returned into the ground or air. While clean water is finite at any given moment, the total amount of water on this planet does not change day to day, despite the use.

I'm limited by flow-rates when I buy water or gas as well. It's the same thing. It's also irrelevant to the point. I don't consume information by speed. Whether the NYT article takes 1 minute or 1 second to load doesn't matter - I want to read the article. Likewise it doesn't matter if I fill up my 3 gallon mop bucket at home slowly or through an industrial water line quickly - I want to mop my floor.



Do you require gas to survive? I need broadband for work, just like I need gas to get to work. No difference.
Keep believing there isn't a difference.
 
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I'll stay with Verizon. We have one smart phone, one old non smartphone and we pay $70 total for the two. T-Mobil would charge $120 if I read the article correctly.
 
What? Where does everybody get the strange idea that data capacity is infinite? There are basic physical limits to wireless capacity.

Who knows. It is true that in many ways these data limits don't matter so much anymore due to better technology or throughput. For instance the telecoms don't need to charge more for long distance during business hours to push more traffic to nights and weekends. But we still have limits even if we don't always reach them. For instance disasters can still effectively shut down the phones in a local area.
 
I've been on Sprint for nearly 7 years now, had T-Mobile for almost that many before the switch. At the time, Sprint had better coverage in far northern Utah than T-Mo did. I can't speak about the T-Mo coverage nowadays, but I'm getting sick of the spotty coverage I'm getting on Sprint. If I head any further south than Utah County, I barely have a signal. The only thing that's keeping me on Sprint is my unlimited plan and the fact that here in my cubicle, Sprint has the best coverage of all the providers.

How is your coverage outside of the SLC area?

I dont travel outside SLC valley much, and if i I do, its to Utah County and Ogden area, but when I do, it is fine. Except for when I go to Lehi Outlets, I get like 1 bar LTE just inside the outlets, its odd. I travel to St. George here and there and it's fine in St. George but I do lose coverage in spots while driving there.

I had ATT for like 4 years and VZZ for like 1.5 and inside the SLC valley, Tmobile is just as good without a doubt.
 
I'm currently on the 2 unlimited lines for $100 plan but it comes to around $120 after taxes. So does the mean the new ONE plan will cost the same as I pay? I'd not switch since my plan doesn't have limitations.
 
The problem with T-Mobile currently (and possibly with these new plans) is that you have to pay for HD video and for faster tethering.

The other carriers (such as AT&T and Verizon) may limit you to less data but they don't care how you use the data you pay for.

For instance, right now on Verizon I'm paying for 4 lines with 16GB for $150 per month. It also comes with carryover data and this month I have 32GB of data.

With T-Mobile if I added all my 4 lines plus HD video and faster tethering it was like $260 or something. Plus I believe the HD video passes you have to login daily and remember to get those.

T-Mobile is only good if you use A LOT of data or travel internationally. If you don't do either of these the other carriers are cheaper and better.

Now when T-Mobile offered the 4 lines with 10GB per line for $140 per month which included international, that was excellent.

T-Mobile went from one of my favorite and I want to switch from Verizon, to I am no longer interested and will stick with Verizon.
 
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Why do these "things" always want access to our bank account? I get flyers all the time for Internet/phone or dish networks that will give you a great deal if you let them withdraw money automatically. Something is fishy about that.
 
Does that include unlimited tethering - or is that an add on?

Wondering also. I have ATT grandfathered unlimited and keep wishing being able to tether.
ATT won't allow that on this old plan and wants you to sign up for a limited plan to get tethering.

Haven't bothered to check if anybody has a hack to get by that issue.

Otherwise ATT has been good to me:)
 
Why do these "things" always want access to our bank account? I get flyers all the time for Internet/phone or dish networks that will give you a great deal if you let them withdraw money automatically. Something is fishy about that.
Use a credit card. In case of a "fishy" charge you can simply dispute it. I have everything on autopay and never had a problem (and saved countless hours of making manual payments). My credit card even gives me free cell phone insurance if I use it to pay my phone bill.
 
Why do these "things" always want access to our bank account? I get flyers all the time for Internet/phone or dish networks that will give you a great deal if you let them withdraw money automatically. Something is fishy about that.

Totally agreed. I used to have ATT on automatic withdrawal.

One time they deducted $ 1,200 and it took a big fight to get unjustified withdrawals back. Even then they will only give the money back with their next "cycle", plus with all the taxes and other garbage listed it is almost like a puzzle trying to make sure one doesn't get screwed.
 
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Still on AT&T Unlimited. No need to change as I pay way less than all this with discounts and have truly unlimited without and throttling.
 
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