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Unfortunately, T-Mobile has the spottiest service of all the major carriers. If they can build their 4G system out so they have more and better coverage, they will be able to put real pressure on the big 2. As it sits, half the places I use service, T-Mobile gets zero bars.

Yep. The good thing is they're rolling out their LTE network at a pretty rapid clip. Also encouraging is they have a very strong network in high population areas. If VZ and AT&T start losing customers at a rapid clip in NYC, Chicago, SF, etc....they'll have to respond.
 
Yeah - This will last. Kind of like the 20K in rollover minutes I had with Cingular when ATT bought them that suddenly went away.

Whats T-Mobile going to do when someone has accrued a Terabyte of Unused data and then tries to actually use it?

He said the data will be only last a year, so if you have left over from Dec 2014, it will expire on Dec 2015. It is still a bit confusing, but I guess the roll over will use up your oldest roll over first then onto the next oldest.

I'm with Verizon right now mainly because of the huge family, I'm waiting for Tmobile to build up their network some more. However, most of my friend who has Tmobile seems to be pretty happy with them.
 
AT&T and Verizon may offer this but they will price the data tiers differently so that they won't lose.
 
Also, FWIW, VZ does something similar on their Allset prepaid plans.

I get 1 GB of data per month along with unlimited voice and text for $45 (with autopay). I can then buy 3GB of bridge data for $20 that is good for 90 days. It's not a perfect rollover plan but it's close and works out pretty well.
 
Now T-Mobile just needs to stash my unlimited minutes and messages so I can be spinning in infinities of minutes...
 
This doesn't apply to their base $50 [before throttling] plan, which is a little disappointing. Glad the unthrottled unlimited plan isn't gone yet.
 
"...when you buy additional high-speed data, there's no need to lose what you don't use."

Oops. This got asked while I was typing. Never mind.

How come we can't just delete posts?
 
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My only real gripe with this is that you have to purchase the additional data for it to work; If you are on the default 1GB (which is currently 2.5 for the promo period) it won't rollover, however I do believe even those plans get the 10GB bucket per line

No you don't. All of their plans are still unlimited; you'll just get throttled to 128Kbps once you go through your high-speed bucket.
 
This is a no-brainer because it won't put any additional stress on their network. Until I switched plans at ATT last week my wife and I had an old family plan with 1400 minutes. We rarely used them all and regularly had between 3,000 and 4,000 minutes rolled over. Did that cause us to somehow panic and decide that we needed to make a bunch of calls, nope! People's data usage habits are just that, habits. It's highly unlikely that someone or some family who regularly use less than all their data and then have it rolled over will run out towards the end of 12 months and suddenly use it all. Sure it's handy to have if you go on vacation somewhere where there isn't wifi and suddenly your usage pattern changes for a week or two but my guess is this is a great marketing move with little overall impact to their network. Nice job T-Mobile!
 
"...when you buy additional high-speed data, there's no need to lose what you don't use."

What EXACTLY does "additional high-speed data" mean? It doesn't sound like this applies to your "regular" monthly data amount.

Additional meaning choosing the 3GB or 5GB data plan over the base 1GB data plan. Some people on the 3GB or 5GB plans don't use their entire data allotment each month so they're saying you don't lose the unused portion of your data plan each month anymore.
 
This is a no-brainer because it won't put any additional stress on their network. Until I switched plans at ATT last week my wife and I had an old family plan with 1400 minutes. We rarely used them all and regularly had between 3,000 and 4,000 minutes rolled over. Did that cause us to somehow panic and decide that we needed to make a bunch of calls, nope! People's data usage habits are just that, habits. It's highly unlikely that someone or some family who regularly use less than all their data and then have it rolled over will run out towards the end of 12 months and suddenly use it all. Sure it's handy to have if you go on vacation somewhere where there isn't wifi and suddenly your usage pattern changes for a week or two but my guess is this is a great marketing move with little overall impact to their network. Nice job T-Mobile!

so true. It sounds nice on paper, but the people who use a lot of data are already on unlimited.

I really want an unlimited plan with unlimited teather!
 
This is legit. Verizon and AT&T will need to respond to this somehow.

ATT and Verizon only respond to each other. TMobile is great except they have no coverage, thus they are forced to be more aggressive than the guys who have to spend billions just to keep their existing networks running.
 
Yeah - This will last. Kind of like the 20K in rollover minutes I had with Cingular when ATT bought them that suddenly went away.

Whats T-Mobile going to do when someone has accrued a Terabyte of Unused data and then tries to actually use it?

:confused: I still have a legacy rollover minutes plan (Nation 450) and it works as it always did. I called up Customer Retentions recently and they added 1000 rollover minutes a few weeks ago.

T-Mobile's rollover data works the same way AT&T's rollover minutes worked. Data rolls over for 12 months, and then starts expiring.


AT&T and Verizon won't offer this.

I disagree. Verizon and AT&T have both announced that their churn rates have increased. Both T-Mobile and Sprint are rapidly expanding their markets. Verizon has plenty of capacity and may respond sooner, but AT&T has less capacity, in part because they had to give T-Mobile a lot of spectrum when their merger fell apart. John Legere's made an off-color tweet a few minutes ago targeted directly at AT&T, touting how they are gaining on AT&T in coverage area and leading in speed.

I think "rollover" data is a good concept that others may be willing to match. Note that T-Mobile is limiting it to plans $60 and up, so even they are trying to draw a line on the price cutting. This gives them better PR without actually cutting prices much. What it's likely to do is cause people to drop down 1 notch (at least since everyone is getting 10GB upfront), so someone on the 5GB plan will drop down to 3GB, etc.

It applies to tablet data plans 1GB and up, and phone plans with 3GB or more. It makes their $20 1GB tablet plan look more attractive for a casual user, and will probably bring some people in who were on the fence about buying data for a tablet at all.
 
wow this is fantastic, roll over data... I truly, truly really do hope AT&T and Verizon do something like this......i really really hope...
 
ATT and Verizon only respond to each other. TMobile is great except they have no coverage, thus they are forced to be more aggressive than the guys who have to spend billions just to keep their existing networks running.


It seems like AT&T responds to T-Mobile and Verizon responds to AT&T.

You can't say they only respond to each other or we wouldn't have the promotions we have right now.
 
Very nicely done, Mr. Legere

I've been with T-Mo since forever, in part because I like it that the parent company is not US based and in part because the customer service has always been miles better than the competition (I have had AT&T and Sprint and people close to me have those, and also Verizon, so I have a decent sample size), and in part because for whatever reason my life has not put me in places T-Mo or T-Mo roaming didn't work for me over those years (I live in a big east coast city). I even suffered through the years with no iPhone just because I liked the customer experience so much. Now I postpay a plan with like 5 lines on it (a kid, a wife, a mom, and two for me) and am mathematically certain I am getting by far the best deal for what I need from a carrier with the SimpleChoice plan terms -- and we're all rocking iPhones in the same big city to be sure. I have had some issues with both customer service and coverage in the last couple of years, but in town my iPhone is blazing fast over 4G LTE and now it will shortly be wideband, so there's that. I can't even picture it being faster, it's equivalent to the fast wifi at my company. And it works underground and in my office building pretty good too, at least as well as my colleagues' phones do.

So this sounds like a testimonial, but in fact everything Legere has done with uncarrier stuff has been to my definite financial and lifestyle advantage. I drive a lot and stream hours of music in my car off the books with the free music streaming service. I travel internationally a lot and love the free data roaming in Europe and Latin America. I can always get a human being in 10 minutes or less with a problem. The website billing and account pages are transparent and easy for me to figure out even with all those lines. I call and tweak my plan regularly based on usage patterns of the various lines. I use my phone for a hotspot all over town and when traveling and it's been pretty flawless and reasonably snappy, and means I don't have to have data plans on my tablet or laptop.

So far, I can't see why Verizon and AT&T aren't in fact pooping in their pants, as Legere says. He's kind of a jerk and he tries a little too hard to be hip in press events, but I'm starting to buy into the argument that he is pretty damn smart.

So yeah, this is something I'll use and appreciate and thanks T-Mobile.
 
ATT and Verizon only respond to each other. TMobile is great except they have no coverage, thus they are forced to be more aggressive than the guys who have to spend billions just to keep their existing networks running.

Verizon responds primarily to AT&T. But AT&T is significantly smaller than Verizon and can't ignore T-Mobile or Spring as easily. Sprint and T-Mobile together are larger than AT&T. Verizon is as big as AT&T plus T-Mobile (and nearly as large as AT&T plus Sprint). AT&T is likelier to respond to T-Mobile than Sprint, particularly since the phones are largely interchangeable and "switching" is easier.
 
so true. It sounds nice on paper, but the people who use a lot of data are already on unlimited.

I really want an unlimited plan with unlimited teather!

I'd like unlimited tethering as well (to replace Comcast home Internet), but something like that would kill their network in a lot of areas.
 
For those saying that AT&T and Verizon should do this, remember that you can't have rollover without killing the overages, and that's approximately a $1 BILLION DOLLAR annual revenue stream that neither of these big cats want to give up.
 
Nice plan but it would be a lot more useful to me if they had shared family data as well. My wife is going to build up a ton of data while I use most of mine, it would be nice to actually use it.
 
ATT and Verizon only respond to each other. TMobile is great except they have no coverage, thus they are forced to be more aggressive than the guys who have to spend billions just to keep their existing networks running.

AT&T has definitely been responding to T-Mobile for the past 4-6 quarters. NEXT, double data promotions, Wi-Fi Calling, Price drops, lower margins (for AT&T), the Cricket acquisition, are all responses to T-Mobile. They've shown that they would rather accept lower profits by lowering prices than keep allowing T-Mobile to take customers from them.

Verizon then in turn responds to AT&T.
 
Unfortunately, T-Mobile has the spottiest service of all the major carriers. If they can build their 4G system out so they have more and better coverage, they will be able to put real pressure on the big 2. As it sits, half the places I use service, T-Mobile gets zero bars.

And for me for 95% of my day I get 4-5 "bars", though "bars" is antiquated considering speed of data availability is more relevant to me. That said, for 95% of my day I actually get non-dropping service at higher speeds than Verizon and AT&T on same generation hardware (the comparison between AT&T and TMobile is actually on the same hardware).

I recognize I'm one case though and not everyone can benefit from swapping to tmobile, particularly those that travel alot or are in bad areas for T-Mobile, but in my area it's worked out GREAT and encourage everyone to give it a shot if you're shopping around.
 
If T Mobile wasn't so terrible in my area, I might think about switching.
That said, AT&T needs to get on this at once. I'd love to have rollover data, even if just like the old rollover minutes, I'd never use it anyway.
 
AT&T was trying to save consumers data by passing the buck over to the companies using their company sponsored data program, but so far only a few game apps and ad agencies are using it. If Netflix, Google, and Amazon picked this up I would very seldom use data at all.

Tmobile plan sounds great but we need to wait and see all the restrictions first. As in throttling, data cap for the stash, data expiring time frames. I can't imagine tmobile allowing you to keep your data too long as otherwise how could they get you to upgrade to say a 15 gb plan? If you save 1-3 gb a month you would never need to if you put yourself on a data budget like so many of us had to do with our current data and min plans from the past.
 
This is legit. Verizon and AT&T will need to respond to this somehow.

With those two being so large (having the majority of subscribers) and T-Mobile struggling with coverage outside metro areas, they won't do much. Now if T-Mobile gets their butts in gear and gets their coverage in order (to at least Sprint level plus good indoor coverage), then AT&T and Verizon will respond accordingly. Also, the fact that they aren't losing a lot of money nor having consecutive quarters of increasing churn rates shows they have nothing to worry about at this time.

It also doesn't help that their new LTE Band 12 (which will help indoor signal) isn't supported by a high number of popular phones. The Note 4, Note Edge, Galaxy Avant, ZTE ZMax, Sony Xperia Z3 and the Nexus 6 are the only phones that do work. Only the Note 4, Nexus 6 (which is still in its infancy), and the Note Edge are solid names on the list.

It's good that T-Mobile is doing things to make themselves better, but they're still not at a point where they are making very serious disruptions to the industry overall.
 
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