Yeah, it would be awesome for all these carriers to be trampling on each others' frequencies. Oh, wait...
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T-Mobile USA Executive Offers Letter to Customers Regarding Lack of iPhone
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Yeah, blame T-mobile. Every other phone manufacturer has a phone (or many) for T-mobile. Apple being technically challenged in everything wireless is just incapable of producing a phone that would work on T-mobile.
Maybe sending invisible international text messages isn't the best way to activate a service.
No compromise iPhone experience? Do they mean one loaded with junk software instead of the clean units found elsewhere?
You know it's been mentioned multiple times, Brodman says (every time when asked about the iPhone 5) that T-Mobile will not be receiving the iPhone 5 this year. He does not say they will be receiving the iPhone. He's being very specific. Maybe they'll be getting it very early next year. This is wishful thinking, but let me rationalise my thought process first.
So when Apple wants to add a carrier, there are months of talks and such before a deal is agreed upon. Then the network needs to prep for adding the iPhone to their lineup. As someone earlier said, when Sprint was being considered to be brought on board, it seemed likely that the T-Mobile/AT&T merger would go through. So it wouldn't have made sense at the time for Apple to introduce a T-Mobile iPhone. But now, with all the opposition (most notably from the DOJ) about this merger, it seems less likely to go through. Maybe Apple is now working out a deal to add the iPhone, but it won't be available at the initial launch due to time constraints. It could come at a later point in time. After all, the Verizon iPhone was launched in the middle of the iPhone 4 release cycle after everyone thought it would be announced at WWDC. On the other hand, this could just mean that T-Mobile won't be getting the iPhone. I just wanted to inject a bit of hope here
for some reason (your name) i have to read all of your posts.
You have brought up some good points however, with him being so specific. was he also specific about the new iphone not coming this year? Like you said with verizon it is possible they get the iPhone 4 first and then get bumped up to 5 (or next iphone for all you S fans) next year. which would still be cool. iPhone domination!!!
That's exactly what Telecom does here. Buy an unlocked iPhone from Apple, sign a 2-year contract with Telecom, and get up to $800 credit.
The key difference, as already mentioned, is the frequencies. Telecom uses WCDMA (UMTS) 850/2100, which all iPhones since the 3G support.
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No argument that activating via a silent SMS is an undesirable and proprietary way of doing Facetime activations on the iPhone.
I would note that AT&T and Verizon and numerous international carriers have figured out how to support the Facetime activation via SMS. With 1 million iPhone users in the balance, many of whom have the iPhone 4 or will be getting an iPhone 4GS/5, I would think that T-Mobile would be jumping through hoops to assist their customers to activate Facetime.
Sigh....
Where does T-Mobile bash the iPhone?
He's probably whining about the commercials with the Canadian model, when quite frankly, Verizon was arguably meaner with its Droid Does campaign as well as the Christmas "Island of Misfit Toys" featuring a mock of the iPhone 3GS. Once they got the 4 the iPhone became "beautiful" and so forth per their commercials, but commercials mean nothing...I'm still using a 3GS on T-Mobile and would love it if they did what users here suggested - give us a $300 (or so) credit if we buy an unlocked iPhone and bring it in to sign a new 2 year activation. They're already incredibly cool with iPhone users anyway - some T-Mobile official locations used to cut the SIM for you if you had an iPhone 4 and within the last few months they just gave customers micro-SIMs.
Sadly, I'm not expecting the iPhone on T-Mobile because I'm not expecting T-Mobile to exist by 2014.
had a difficult time deciphering this part. just to let you know, facetime ONLY works over wi-fi. even an at&t or verizon phone can't do facetime.
In order to activate Facetime your phone needs to send a text message to Apple and receive a response. Seems strange for a service that only works over wifi but that is what the internets say.
I know that the actual iPhone FaceTime only runs over WiFi today. That said, the activation of FaceTime on the iPhone utilizes a silent SMS message sent to +44 7786 205094 the Apple Facetime activation center in the UK when the user goes to Settings > Phone > FaceTime and turns FaceTime "ON". The iPhone then is supposed to receive an activation code in return that enables FaceTime. On T-Mobile since IOS 4.2 and Carrier 10.0 this no longer works.
See - http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=FaceTime
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Even Tmobile admits they have a million iPhone users on their network. That strongly implies that Apple doesn't have to develop another iPhone model. Apparently, the one(s) they offer now can already work with Tmobile. This is just about the willingness to make a deal (or the lack of "willingness" partners like AT&T & Verizon have for "allowing" it on Tmobile).
Tmobile has millions of potential buyers so wanting an iPhone that more than a million of them are either buying new unlocked or settling for used & unlocked. There is obviously a market of size for iPhone there.
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What about the second sentence in this (below) quote straight from their mouths leads to the above belief?
We all understand that the process of unlocking a phone doesn't yield a brand new, specially-made phone don't we?
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I've never seen them trash the iPhone. They do have a number of commercials that makes fun of AT&T though. Can you point us to a source if you believe otherwise?
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Obviously, I'm for getting the iPhone on many other U.S. carriers in hopes that real competition beyond the big 2 or maybe 3 will lead to a fix for the #1 flaw (IMO) with the iPhone- the total cost of ownership. With near duplicate (costs) plans from the current 2 players are we really thinking adding one more to the party will bring any competition? Beyond a month or two until Sprint Unlimited is discontinued?
Personally, I'd like to see the iPhone made available to the big 7-8+ carriers where maybe some real competition in the service options would yield an iPhone plan for even the penny-pinchers.
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Where does T-Mobile bash the iPhone?
He doesn't understand that they are bashing ATT. He is prably a droid vine troll.
I don't believe in the frequency argument. with 33 mio subscribers T-Mobile is large enough to justify the minor changes apple would need to have full access to the G3 speeds on T-Mobile. Every other manufacturer does this as well.
I can only imagine that there are business or legal or strategic reasons. I just can't see why Apple would not want to sell the iPhone on T-Mobile. T-Mobile already stated they want the iPhone.
and then we get to see you whinning here about your increased contract price and why you can not get the same deal as T-Mobile.
Incredibly disappointing. I don't understand...why pick up Sprint and leave T-Mobile out? My only guess is it has something to do with the merger. If T-Mobile got the iPhone (and a surge in business/new customers as a result) that can't look good, right? I don't know, that's just a shame.
T-Mobile is ALREADY supported, sort of...
Regardless of whether or not T-Mobile uses "common" GSM signals is beside the point, as the current Verizon iPhone 4 has support for T-Mobile's 1700MHz AWS 3G spectrum (via it's Qualcomm MDM6600 "Gobi" chip). It would be trivial for Apple to enable it in firmware. I would be shocked if Apple switched to a chipset without these capabilities in the next iPhone, especially with all the talk of it being a single "world-mode" model. It seems to me that Apple is waiting for something else, perhaps to see how the AT&T takeover pans out.
Regardless of whether or not T-Mobile uses "common" GSM signals is beside the point, as the current Verizon iPhone 4 has support for T-Mobile's 1700MHz AWS 3G spectrum (via it's Qualcomm MDM6600 "Gobi" chip). It would be trivial for Apple to enable it in firmware. I would be shocked if Apple switched to a chipset without these capabilities in the next iPhone, especially with all the talk of it being a single "world-mode" model. It seems to me that Apple is waiting for something else, perhaps to see how the AT&T takeover pans out.
I'm not even sure there are as many people in Canada as there are Tmobile customers in the US. What are you smoking tonight??