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T-Mobile USA Executive Offers Letter to Customers Regarding Lack of iPhone

JAT said:
I'm not even sure there are as many people in Canada as there are Tmobile customers in the US. What are you smoking tonight??
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You are nearly right. Canadian population is estimated at about 34M. U.S. Tmobile subs is estimated at 33M. If Apple is interested in selling the iPhone in Canada (and they've long since entered that market), they should be as interested in selling the iPhone to the Tmobile market.

Contrary to the recurring guess that just keeps appearing over and over in this thread, if 1M people are already using unlocked iPhones on Tmobile's network, it won't take a brand new iPhone to work on Tmobile's network.

Tmobile is now very publicly begging Apple to sell iPhones to their subscriber base. It appears that Apple is choosing not to do so (yet) or Apple's existing partners (AT&T and Verizon) don't want a cheaper (plan) carrier to get the iPhone and may be "motivating" Apple to not make that deal.
 
Ive been a tmobile customer for a while now, close to 4 years and I had the 2g on tmobile. They've always been pretty cool with people with iPhones, i still have the 5.99 t-zones plan. Unfortunatly i still have the MyFaves plan and compared to plans now its pretty expensive. My contract ends in December i wish something would happened so we could get the iPhone I really don't want to switch to ATT
 
Rodimus Prime said:
and then we get to see you whinning here about your increased contract price and why you can not get the same deal as T-Mobile.
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Nope not me, I'll be happy to xfer my phone number and have higher cell tower density and get the data rates I'm already paying for but not getting as well as full services. I stayed with T-Mobile till this point not for money but because of loyalty and a dislike of AT&T. I'd be happy selling my factory unlocked iPhone 4 32GB and upgrade to the iPhone 5. If the new iPhone 5 is both GSM and CDMA, rumored then that will be great!
 
If you guys think back at what Verizon CEO said when ask about the iPhone. He never admitted about them getting it and he also talk about how the would love to have it but that it was apples call. The same thing is going on with T-mobile. Remember apple does the announcements not the carriers CEO. The iphone with AWS band is not only for T-mobile USA, there are carriers in canada using that same band. If apple does come through with a real world iphone that would be a big hit for android, cause there's no excuse iphone's will ride on every network possible. Let's see if October 4 bring a true world iPhone running on all US carriers. :apple:
 
This is the situation I am in. I love the T-mobile service and price. I have been with them for years, but I really want an iPhone.

I haven't given in because my company has always paid for my phone, so I am forced to use Blackberry. I think they are going to take away our BB's and give us a monthly allowance soon.

At that time, my wife and I will either go with Verizon or AT&T.

Too bad, b/c I like TMobile.
 
Why doesn't Apple just buy AT&T? They have the cash. That way they can be truly fully vertically integrated in mobile phones.
 
Apple wishes it could buy AT&T. People may plunk down $300+ for an iphone, but they spend that every four months with AT&T.

The reason T-mobile isn't getting the iPhone is probably financial.

Notice that Sprint (who used to be the 'bargain' provider) has had to raise their ETF fee and killed off one of their upgrade programs in anticipation of getting the iPhone.

My *guess* is that Apple's terms would cost T-mobile too much money. I'm sure T-mobile would love to offer the #2 smartphone platform, but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter. T-mobile will be in 4th place with or without the iPhone, so it isn't affecting their bottom line much.

As long as they offer top tier Android, Windows, and Blackberry phones then they will have smartphone subscribers.
 
leisenstein said:
I love the T-mobile service and price. I have been with them for years, but I really want an iPhone. My wife and I will either go with Verizon or AT&T. Too bad, b/c I like TMobile.
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You can kiss your unlimited data plan goodbye. Unless you go with Sprint I suppose.
 
accessoriesguy said:
for some reason (your name) i have to read all of your posts.

You have brought up some good points however, with him being so specific. was he also specific about the new iphone not coming this year? Like you said with verizon it is possible they get the iPhone 4 first and then get bumped up to 5 (or next iphone for all you S fans) next year. which would still be cool. iPhone domination!!!
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Thanks. And besides, I'm sure adding T-Mobile's AWS bands isn't more difficult than creating the CDMA iPhone. So it definitely isn't a technology issue. It's all purely political (as someone earlier said, but I forgot to quote).

mentalward said:
Regardless of whether or not T-Mobile uses "common" GSM signals is beside the point, as the current Verizon iPhone 4 has support for T-Mobile's 1700MHz AWS 3G spectrum (via it's Qualcomm MDM6600 "Gobi" chip). It would be trivial for Apple to enable it in firmware. I would be shocked if Apple switched to a chipset without these capabilities in the next iPhone, especially with all the talk of it being a single "world-mode" model. It seems to me that Apple is waiting for something else, perhaps to see how the AT&T takeover pans out.
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So if the current one has the support but not enabled, then I hope the iPhone 5 has it and it's enabled. Then I'll be going unlocked to T-Mobile.

HobeSoundDarryl said:
You are nearly right. Canadian population is estimated at about 34M. U.S. Tmobile subs is estimated at 33M. If Apple is interested in selling the iPhone in Canada (and they've long since entered that market), they should be as interested in selling the iPhone to the Tmobile market.

Contrary to the recurring guess that just keeps appearing over and over in this thread, if 1M people are already using unlocked iPhones on Tmobile's network, it won't take a brand new iPhone to work on Tmobile's network.

Tmobile is now very publicly begging Apple to sell iPhones to their subscriber base. It appears that Apple is choosing not to do so (yet) or Apple's existing partners (AT&T and Verizon) don't want a cheaper (plan) carrier to get the iPhone and may be "motivating" Apple to not make that deal.
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so it would be worthwhile for Apple to offer it to T-Mobile if they can offer it to Canada (and not every person in Canada uses the iPhone). Also, that's 1 million people willing to compromise for edge in order to have the iPhone. I'll bet I'm not the only one who hasn't gone this route yet to have an iPhone on T-Mobile because I don't want to be limited to edge. The number would jump if the iPhone could use T-Mobile 3G.

I don't doubt that AT&T/Verizon have some hand in this because they know the cheaper plans will make them lose iPhone subscribers. Plus T-Mobile getting the iPhone would help the company grow and then AT&T would be screwed in its case to acquire T-Mobile because it is "a small company that is losi money and won't survive without big, strong AT&T to save it". Bleh, ******* off AT&T.
 
mentalward said:
Regardless of whether or not T-Mobile uses "common" GSM signals is beside the point, as the current Verizon iPhone 4 has support for T-Mobile's 1700MHz AWS 3G spectrum (via it's Qualcomm MDM6600 "Gobi" chip). It would be trivial for Apple to enable it in firmware. I would be shocked if Apple switched to a chipset without these capabilities in the next iPhone, especially with all the talk of it being a single "world-mode" model. It seems to me that Apple is waiting for something else, perhaps to see how the AT&T takeover pans out.
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If it was so trivial then why didn't Apple just enable the AWS in the Verizon iphone at launch and sell unlocked at the Apple store.

There is more to this story and I bet Verizon had a hand in it.
 
done...

so officially T-Mo CMO announces no iphone for T-Mo..just placed an order for iphone 4 on ATT with 30 day return/exchange period..will get to test the network and the phone and when the new iphone launches around mid-october..will get the new one :D
So long T-Mo you wont be missed..
 
Braniff747SP said:
Well, I'd like to be able to get the iPhone on T-Mobile... I don't wan't to switch, but if I want an iPhone, it's the only way... we shall see....
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I think you and others are thinking the same way, in which case this will surely lead to an small exit of subscribers from T-Mobile. In this case this will devalue this company even more, however not sure our Government here in the USA will allow AT&T to buy them, and by the time their company takes a beating from the loss of customers and lack of competitive service it might be too late for any carrier to benefit from buying T-Mobile for a premium anyway. Someone might pick them up when they are at rock bottom for their GSM owned space.
 
Encouraging jailbreaking? Apple is gonna be mad :eek:

By the way, is it possible to get an iPhone with a contract but just not pay the bill, get the service removed, then jailbreak it?

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daxomni said:
You can kiss your unlimited data plan goodbye. Unless you go with Sprint I suppose.
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I don't think Sprint is keeping unlimited anymore. Wasn't there an article on MR about it?

I doubt any carrier would have unlimited data with the iPhone. That would get soooo abused :D

I'm still in favor of not buying any carrier service (using an iPod Touch or an iPhone with no SIM). Seriously, the fact that they charge money for texting separately from data makes me not want to do business with them. I just go on random networks for free (faster than) 4G :p
 
chirpie said:
It's odd to acknowledge but then not address the issue in any meaningful way. In business you never say "sorry" unless it's blatantly your fault, and you never bring up a shortcoming unless you aim to deflect it properly.

This just seems... weird.
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indeed it is. truth isn't something the PR department prefers.
 
Exactly

chirpie said:
It's odd to acknowledge but then not address the issue in any meaningful way. In business you never say "sorry" unless it's blatantly your fault, and you never bring up a shortcoming unless you aim to deflect it properly.

This just seems... weird.
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Suggesting that, "Apple knows that we’d like to add it to our line-up..." is equivalent of the sexy head cheerleader "knowing" the quiet nerdy kid wants to date her. Its up to T-Mobile to wine and dine, woo Apple. They'll never survive simply offering apologies. Ridiculous to know the solution but not take steps to reach a positive conclusion. I'm one of the million iPhone customers on T-Mobile and my patience is tested with every webpage loading on EDGE... in order to watch anything on YouTube when away from WiFi I have to download the vid in low quality via YourTube and wait for it to load. :confused:
Hoping iPhone 5 or 4S does have right 3G frequencies so that when Dev team works their magic I can have a true iPhone experience.

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KingCrimson said:
Why doesn't Apple just buy AT&T? They have the cash. That way they can be truly fully vertically integrated in mobile phones.
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If only... :eek:
 
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