I don't see why this is a problem, you are stuck on roaming charges even when you're out of your area code on rogers and bell
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T-Mobile's iPhone 5 is a Tweaked Model A1428 Phone with AWS Support
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I don't see why this is a problem, you are stuck on roaming charges even when you're out of your area code on rogers and bell
See my post above - I got 18 Mbps down / 6 Mbps up today in MD with my unlocked AT&T iPhone 5.
Who's making you sell anything OR purchase anything? You're so full of drama its pathetic.
Yeah, there's so much fragmentation on the iPhone side! I'm glad I'm on android...
Whose talking about Android?
This isn't a software issue anyway. It's hardware.
Yes, it is pathetic that if I want to use the hardware that my phone came with from the factory to it's fullest extent the only recourse I have is to replace it with the exact same model purchased after 4/12.
Anandtech has gone over this already and dug up the FCC filings. It is a software update only.
Pathetic.
Roaming when you leave your area code? No.
I hate to even think about defending rogers or bell, but we've had decent canada-wide plans from the big 3 for a while now with LTE data.
Ok great.... now you won't have to commit hara-kiri. Maybe tone it down a bit, even IF it wasn't compatible no one would force you to buy or sell anything. Relax, breathe, have a wonderful day.
I had a hunch this was firmware on the radio
I bet they just dont want problems with people flashing their current radios.I had a hunch this was firmware on the radio
Fingers crossed for the jailbreak guys to come up with a hack - T-Mobile LTE works fine on my AT&T iPhone 5 and we have 1900 Mhz UMTS where I live in MD, but would be great to get the AWS UMTS support since I found a couple spots in town today that dropped to EDGE
T-Mobile only restricts tethering on the unlimited plan. The tiered plans ($10 per 2GB) do not have this restriction. IE You can pay $70/month for unlimited everything (and 500mb of tethering) or $70/month for unlimited minutes, texts, and 4.5GB of data with 4.5gb of tethering. Or pay $60/month and get 2.5GB of data/tethering etc....
To buy or to wait
Now the question is: should I buy this upcoming tweaked iPhone or wait a few months for the next model?
Either way, I'm very happy that T-Mobile now has the iPhone, and also their new Plans.
Now the question is: should I buy this upcoming tweaked iPhone or wait a few months for the next model?
Either way, I'm very happy that T-Mobile now has the iPhone, and also their new Plans.
Wow, this is great news. I'm sure my brother is really excited. He works for Tmobiles business division, but they also can make sales to individuals. In the business division, you can credit people cancellation fees if they jump ship from other carriers. I'm guessing some people who want lower rates will do this since they'll get their cancellation fee waived.
I know typically, they are allowed to give deep discounts on phones too, i wonder how that will work with the iphone since Apple products aren't really discounted ever. Would be awesome if there was some kind of discount on the phone plus waiving of all cancellation fees. Next time i talk to him, i need to ask what's going on.
I know typically, they are allowed to give deep discounts on phones too, i wonder how that will work with the iphone since Apple products aren't really discounted ever. Would be awesome if there was some kind of discount on the phone plus waiving of all cancellation fees. Next time i talk to him, i need to ask what's going on.
Correct - but Not with their budget brands - I.e fido , Koodo etc which almost always have better plans than their parent ( especially if you own your phone outright ) If you still have a plan that has a calling area, you may want to look around. I know fido did have unlimited Canada wide calling , maybe they still do, Virgin Mobile have unlimited Canada wide.
But if you travel a lot, especially Quebec Wind may not have coverage, where as others will - rogers, bell , telus.
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I had a hunch this was firmware on the radio
That's a terrible excuse. They could simply have a genius flash it at the Apple store to insure it is done properly. Shenanigans like this from Apple really annoy me, and it isn't the first time they pull a stunt like this.
So far as I'm concerned, given how much we are paying for these premium products, if there is a feature that the hardware is capable of, it should be turned on, either upon launch or later when the software/firmware is ready, for everyone with that hardware.
Have a genius flash it ? They won't be able to find enough genius to flash the mob's iPhone 5s ! >_<
On top of that they still have to solve other customers' issues.
If they have time on their hands, I would rather they focus on the next phone or real issues. AWS is not much of a difference.
iPhones have better durability and resale value to offset the price too.
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I was responding to a specific point, but the truth of the matter releasing a firmware update wouldn't be much trouble at all, they do it all the time. Just look at how often the MBPs and MBAs have had firmware updates without any issues. I don't see why the iPhones would be any different. And to point out the durability and resale value is a red herring.
Yup. It's just a baseband update. Same hardware. It's probably imposed by AT&T so current customers with current A1428 will not ever be able to take them to T-Mobile..
Why is it a red herring when build quality, resale value are also part of premium product benefits.
Apple simply said it's not a simple software update. If it is doable and they have time to rev another 6.x update, they may eventually do it ? My guess is they will be hot on the next phone and OS first.
Even Mac firmware updates are not that frequent.
Why would AT&T absorb bandwidth consumption of AWS update alone if it doesn't benefit them anyway ?
Apple simply said it's not a simple software update. If it is doable and they have time to rev another 6.x update, they may eventually do it ? My guess is they will be hot on the next phone and OS first.
Even Mac firmware updates are not that frequent.
Why would AT&T absorb bandwidth consumption of AWS update alone if it doesn't benefit them anyway ?
The problem is in there very own FCC filing they said it was nothing but a simple software update.
Who is Apple more likely to tell the truth to, customers? Or the FCC?
For example, we all know that the iPhone 4 is perfectly capable of doing Facetime over 3G, however, Apple says it can't. Same thing applies here. Their own FCC filling states that there were no hardware changes. That's enough for me to hear.
So if I get one of these "new" iPhone 5's and pop in my current SIM from TMO that is on the $30 5GB, 100minute plan, will it work on LTE where TMO has service? Basically what I'm asking is if LTE is included in that plan? Or is it just considered another variation of "4G" by TMO?
It seems to me some carriers forced people to get a new "LTE SIM" and they couldn't keep using the previous one....is there anything special in the SIM that activates LTE?
It seems to me some carriers forced people to get a new "LTE SIM" and they couldn't keep using the previous one....is there anything special in the SIM that activates LTE?