I was actually going to switch to T-mobile too because my work has t-mobile discounts as well
but I don't want to trade in my Nexus 5 and have to buy a new phone... I'll wait out my contract.
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T-Mobile's 'Un-Carrier 4.0' Initiative Offers Up to $350 Per Line to Switch Carriers
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I was actually going to switch to T-mobile too because my work has t-mobile discounts as well
but I don't want to trade in my Nexus 5 and have to buy a new phone... I'll wait out my contract.So, lets say a best case scenario is painted to a customer service rep about the switch to TMobile. Two lines=1300 bucks. Again, best case scenario. What matters the most in my opinion is subscriber base/count. I'm sure the last thing they want to talk about in their next sales call is about the millions of customers they lost to TMobile because of this Uncarrier strategy. With that said, if I approach a ATT rep and give them the "Help me help you" speech and ask them for a 60 dollar credit a month, which is my monthly savings excluding the 1300 bucks, what are my chances of getting the credit. There's someone figuring that for every ### of subscribers lost something has to get shifted at ATT. And we know that's human capital all of the time. If their market share is eroded significantly, I can see a potential to using that to my advantage and seeing if I can get a credit and help them keep 2 subscribers. Thoughts?
I apparently am getting a $10 discount I wasn't aware of. I never check my bill unless it's drastically different. Copied from my most recent bill:
Nation 450 with Rollover $29.99
International Roaming – Expanded $0.00
DataPro Unlimited for iPhone on 4G LTE with Visual Voicemail $25.00
Messaging 1000 $10.00
National Account Discount −$10.05
Total Monthly Plan Charges $63.94
Surcharges & Fees $3.00
Government Fees & Taxes $3.96
Total for 216-xxx-xxxx $61.90
T-Mobile has the better Deal over Verizon
It is not the point that you are getting a great amount of money and profit switching from Verizon to T-Mobile, it is this. Say you are on the Share Everything Plan, with five lines, and 20 GB monthly data. This costs 350 dollars a month. Now, if you were to switch to T-Mobile now, while trading in five smartphones, without having to pay the ETF, the savings over time are tremendous. See five lines with unlimited everything on T-Mobile is $210 a month. So even if I had to buy five new smartphones, the is definitely balanced, and you get the benefits of no contract. Under the right circumstances, and if you have good cellular connection where you are (I DO NOT) with T-Mobile, switching would be a great deal.
It is not the point that you are getting a great amount of money and profit switching from Verizon to T-Mobile, it is this. Say you are on the Share Everything Plan, with five lines, and 20 GB monthly data. This costs 350 dollars a month. Now, if you were to switch to T-Mobile now, while trading in five smartphones, without having to pay the ETF, the savings over time are tremendous. See five lines with unlimited everything on T-Mobile is $210 a month. So even if I had to buy five new smartphones, the is definitely balanced, and you get the benefits of no contract. Under the right circumstances, and if you have good cellular connection where you are (I DO NOT) with T-Mobile, switching would be a great deal.
It's the plan that I switched to after my contract with AT&T was up. If you think you'll talk more then 100 mins in a month, just keep a balance on your pre-paid phone. What I did was to pop $100 on the account every 3 months. So I had $10 to spare. (it is $0.10 a min beyond your 100 mins)
I cut my cellular phone bill by over half and at the time I was already getting a 15% discount though work. I was on a 450 mins / 2 GB / 1000 text plan, at the time.
What market are you in? Discount aside, I've never seen prices that low for those plans. The phone plan is usually $39.99, and that $25 data plan is usually limited (the grandfathered plan is $30).
DING! DING! DING!
at the very beginning, A $600 smartphone = $200 upfront + $400 ETF
The ETF will decreases overtime. It will be at 0 after 24 months.
EXACTLY!
If the phones you are trading in are within the last 2 years its not worth it and if your phones are older than that you should not have any termination fee so this deal sucks. I have run the numbers numerous times and it will cost more to switch. Even if you do the math on the monthly plan its still not good. I pay $207 for 3 phones on AT&T. That's out the door with a 25% company discount. Now I get 10gb shared plus tethering there. With T-Mobile I would get unlimited for all phones with only 2.5gb of data for tethering on each phone so it works out about the same but I pay on T-Mobile $150 a month, plus taxes which are around $30 a month so $180 a month, a savings of $27 a month but hold on, now I have to buy the phones outright with T-mobile. On AT&T I got my G2 for $89, my iphone for $200 and my Optimus G Pro for $99. I have to wait 2 years but in that time I get new phones for cheap again where as over at tmobile I have to pay $10 a month and I can upgrade every 6 months. So now That's an extra $30 for all three lines so now we are up to $210 on T-mobile.
add in the TAX and EBAY FEE
$60 tax + $60 tax + $55 ebay fee + $55 ebay fee = $230
That's $210 hypothetical profit just turned into a $20 loss when tax and 10% ebay commission is taken into account.
Hmmm, I'm off contract and have been for many many months. While TMO doesn't need to pay my ETF, I wonder if I can move to a 5S from my 4S without any out of pocket fees.
I must read more...TMO isn't awesome here but I do know I get LTE data around my city.
I must read more...TMO isn't awesome here but I do know I get LTE data around my city.
Bingo! Hopefully the T-Mobile plan changes will drive other wireless carriers to come up with plans that are more customer friendly...........
Close. A $649 iPhone 5s 16GB is $199 up front, $450 subsidized.......BUT the AT&T early termination fee is only $325 (decreasing from there). So if someone gets a subsidized phone at AT&T, then sells it a month later to TMobile, AT&T has not only lost a subscriber, but @$100 (ignoring any discounts it might have gotten from AAPL). Probably why TMobile CEO got tossed out of yesterday's party at AT&T.
I was actually going to switch to T-mobile too because my work has t-mobile discounts as well
I won't want to trade my iPhone 5s either. I'm thinking of trading in a cheap prepaid lumia I picked up. They are offering $7 dollars for it. I'll just get the cheapest phone they offer and stick the sim back in my iPhone. If this works, it's worth doing. Otherwise I don't want to pay the same price for service and phone as I do with AT&T now.
Agreed. That's besides the fact that we only offer MSVPs now anyway. But those IRU discounts make a huge difference and shouldn't be added in for price comparison.
Either way you spin it, AT&T is more expensive compared to T-mobile. But for the most part, AT&Ts network is vastly superior. It's like going to an Audi dealership and wondering why it's more expensive then the $99 a month Kia they're offering down the street... You pay for what you get.
1Q of 2013: 0.65 million net customers
2Q of 2013: 1.1 million net customers
3Q of 2013: 1 million net customers
4Q of 2013: 1.65 million net customers
4.4 million net customers in 2013.
T-Mobile must be doing something right.
it is better, but for a lot of people its not a concern. i have wifi at home and at work. i just need a 10mbps or so cellular signal on the street to look up information from time to time and i want it cheaper than AT&T.
this is a mature market now and a low cost solution is good enough for a lot of people which is what T-mo taking advantage of. AT&T and Verizon will probably have no choice but to raise prices again on a shrinking customer base and find some other way to offer a little more value
just like Mac's/PC's a decade ago. and what t-mobile did with unlimited texting around the same time
You're right. I just verified that on T-Mo's site. Then it's not that good of a deal if you can't bring your own phone.
I'm in Cleveland, Ohio. I've been with AT&T since the pre-Cingular days and got my first data plan with the 3GS. I think I'm grandfathered in to so many plans that I'm afraid to change anything.
The good deal is if he was not forced to buy a new phone and could use whatever phone he wants.
Yea, don't mess with your plan.
I was grandfathered into so many plans on AT&T that when I added my iPad to my account, they changed all of my lines to new more expensive plans. They wouldn't change it back either. Totally screwed me.
The 200 SMS for $5 was the best, but it is lost forever!
Again, Nation 450 is $39.99 to the general consumer, and grandfathered unlimited data is $30. Even without the additional $10 discount you're now reporting, you're are getting an additional $15 off monthly service. How? Are you getting a special company rate? What employer? Readers need accurate information to properly weigh their alternatives.
Unless your etf is less than $150 you're making the same if not more money by switching. If you're subsidized with a contract that $500 you sell it for is still a loss anyways.