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Exactly. Almost every single thing I would want a smart watch/Apple watch for, I also need the iPhone for.
If I have to have the iPhone on me or near me, why do I want to buy the Apple watch? It's not useful to me until it's a standalone product, with GPS.

And for the people earlier in the thread that are saying the the Apple watch will eventually BECOME the phone....do you realize how long that will be? Battery tech has to advance light years, processing power has to increase, etc. Apple just spent probably billions enlarging all their phones. The iPhone isn't moving to the wrist for a long time, if ever.

Since the screen is the thing that consumes the most power by far. An advance in the screen would be just as good as an advance in battery tech (and maybe even more probable ;-). People seem to forget that the CPU that's in the watch is like the A5, that means the watch has as much processing power as a Iphone 5! In 3 years, it would have the equivalent ot the A8, if the watch doesn't do much more, that alone would improve battery life since the CPU would be on a 10nm process and clocked real low.

Improvements in screen, CPU and the maybe a bit battery life will probably be enough to make the watch fully independent, with it on cell phone reception, in less than 5 years even if stays at its current size.

That would make it possible to use SIRI for dictating, responding, etc. With that many, but not all, could forgo the cell phone. That would be especially true for the elderly, the very young, the blind, the sick/disabled, etc. There is a market for a standalone small independent watch/phone that's always on you. Right now, because of tech limits, such a watch is just too massive.

Even people with an Iphone, with the watch would often go out without the phone. There is liberty in having almost nothing on you like in the old days :).
 
For those who may be interested, the BBC has posted a couple of articles from this weeks Basel World (for those not in the know, this is the worlds premier watch show). One is an article about the wackier side of high end watches, this may give some who are not really into watches an idea about what exactly a high end watch is, and what high end buyers look for.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31979004

This second article is perhaps more relevant to this thread; smart watches. Of most interest I think is that Breitling is mentioned, they have what I think is best described as a smarter watch (not smart!), which will be released towards the end of the year. Also the number of entrants into this field for 2015.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31957142

Those watches look a HELL of a lot better then the IMO utterly utterly utterly dull looking Gold Apple Watch. The stainless Apple watch is nice, the aluminium one nicer, but the gold is just a bland slab of uninteresting gold on your wrist:

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I would not pay several thousands for a watch with a design as dull as this! The aluminium watch looks really cool to me, but man the same design in gold looks very boring.
 
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Tag Heuer Partnering With Google and Intel to Build Connected Smartwatch

Improvements in screen, CPU and the maybe a bit battery life will probably be enough to make the watch fully independent, with it on cell phone reception, in less than 5 years even if stays at its current size.



That would make it possible to use SIRI for dictating, responding, etc. With that many, but not all, could forgo the cell phone. That would be especially true for the elderly, the very young, the blind, the sick/disabled, etc. There is a market for a standalone small independent watch/phone that's always on you. Right now, because of tech limits, such a watch is just too massive.



Even people with an Iphone, with the watch would often go out without the phone. There is liberty in having almost nothing on you like in the old days :).



Biggest problem with that viewpoint is flawed in that deaf people CANNOT use a watch as you imagined to make calls. Making blanket statements in a 'one size fits all' is a fatal mistake. Right now, deaf people use video calls on Skype or FaceTime using sign language with BOTH hands, not ONE. If you think it's a good idea to use video chat on a watch, that won't ever happen for another 10 years or so until battery problems and video rendering is solved. The screen is too tiny to do that. That's why it works best as a text notification device. Or for any smart watch in that situation.



There are also relay services on the internet that hard of hearing or deaf people can use to make calls via a live operator that mediates the conversation between two parties. The deaf person would use text to send a message and the operator relays the message by voice to the other line, and the same way goes for using video relay services.



I know what I'm talking about because I'm part of that demographic.

EDIT: I don't sign but rely on text messaging heavily to communicate and sometimes on Skype. Since I'm hard of hearing, voice control while driving is limited to certain functions so that I can focus on the road.

Also, for the blind, they would need to use a large scale device to send messages via braille, not a watch. And keep in mind that blind people CANNOT see the Apple Watch screen to operate it.



So, therefore, the smartphone is here to stay for years to come as a main communications hub, NOT the watch. This is NOT Star Trek or Dick Tracy. I still think FaceTime on a watch is flawed and counter-productive.



And lastly, to have a watch fixated on your wrist as a phone replacement can be a privacy issue for location/gps tracking purposes, if abused.

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Here' a BBC clip from Basel World. it has a few seconds with Kairos and the inventor.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-31960783



Beautiful watch. If I had the money, I would buy that. It's very well thought out, IMO.
 
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Garbage it may be, but it's still something that I would wear, compared to the other android wear designs.

Sure. That's completely the point of well... anything. Otherwise we'd all be driving around in minivans wearing overalls. We all like different things... But not sure why you'd actually want a functionless item on your wrist... but I suppose the 360 does tell the time well.. for about 3-4 hours till you need to charge it again.

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How about I not? Thanks for trying though. I am sorry I hurt your feelings.

No hurt feelings. Just don't get why you are on here at all. You either have no life or are being paid to post gibberish with no actual content, just reactionary junk.
 
Risky strategy if they only intend to focus on Android! Surprises me that Tag seem to be tying themselves to Android only....bad move in my opinion. If you want to compete with all smart watches then multiplatform is the way to do so.

And your choice would be to tie themselves to Who?
Android is by far the most popular phone OS in the world, so
why would they tie themselves to some other OS??

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A very nice looking watch with a very crappy operating system is still a piece of crap in my book. Apple's software is what will make all the difference.

Says DavidTheExpert ....

And Apple will let Tag use there iOS on their watches... really??
Dude, Android might not be the best SW OS in the world, but
it is Tags only real choice if it wants to get into the smart watch
market.
 
to see how they run to Intel and Google (curious to see Microsoft missing from this equation) instead of rolling their own.

I'll be interested to see how it eventually shakes out. My guess is that the pattern will be similar to the PC industry, where Intel/Android wearables proliferate everywhere, but they'll all stink compared to those who create their own kit from the ground up.

What the hell are you talking about??
Do you have any idea how much development $$ it takes to
create a OS?
And MS has less then 5% of the market place in cellphones and no smart watch OS, so why would they even think that that would be a good idea??
And the Android OS tho run under a base of Linux and other kits was created no differently than iOS was.. they all came from somewhere and became something due to an underlying OS (either Linux or Unix).
 
"The difference between the TAG Heuer watch and the Apple Watch is very important" one is a leader, the other is a follower. One is entering a market through innovation and the other is reacting out of sheer panic. One is constantly innovating and creating new industry sectors whilst the other has been riding off it's good name for years. One is a tech company entering a tech sector and the other is a fashion brand entering a tech sector. Many differences, we'll see who ends up taking lions share of profits.

So, by your definition Apple is a leader in watch making??
Hmm .. how many watches has Apple made? 0
and as the Apple watch has not even been rolled out yet, your comment
does not even make sense!!
Yes, people will buy the Apple watch, but that does not make Apple a leader in watch making ... sure they have enough $$ to by Tag or Rolex, but that does not mean that their base business is watch making!!
There are lots of people out there that do not want a smart watch. They want a classic normal (or high-end) watch that does one thing really well and that is tell them the time if they are going for a walk or skin diving +100ft under water. Each watch has it's purpose, and each person gets to decide what he wants to wear ..
Don't get ahead of yourself.

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If you are a current Android smartwatch manufacturer, how does it make you feel to have Google run off and play around with Tag Heuer?

Fine, and thanks for asking a stupid question ..

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Go into a high street jeweller and look at the Tag Heuer Carrera watches on display. Though not true high end watches, the quality is leagues above any other Android Wear watch that we've seen so far.

Not so sure about the quality of the software though. :eek:

An Android watch retails for approx $250US or less
A Tag watch retails for approx $1000US or more

Why do people keep trying to compare these 2 watches types together?
They are completely different .. and not even on the same playing field ..

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With Android Wear coming to iOS I'm glad we have the choice.

However, this sort of knee jerk reaction rarely leads to a good product.

Android Wear is not coming to iOS!!
There are rumors that Android will support the Apple iOS platform, but
Android Wear is not coming to iOS! There is a difference!!
 
I find all smartwatch models interesting. Until Apple releases theirs and six months of use elapse, the reality of day to day usage is nothing but guesswork.

The only prediction I'm comfortable making is that one way or another Apple will be sure theirs is successful to one degree or another. When a company has the massive cash reserves of Apple there is no failing, based solely on their smartwatch.
 
I love my Tag Heuer watch which I've had for 14 years.

Tag isn't high-end compared to some of the £50,000+ watches around, but with its less expensive watches selling for probably four to five times the Apple Watch price, the company is certainly not low-end, so why would it want to associate itself with Google/Android technology?

An your choice is OS would be??
 
An Android watch retails for approx $250US or less
A Tag watch retails for approx $1000US or more

Why do people keep trying to compare these 2 watches types together?
They are completely different .. and not even on the same playing field

I was answering another member who was saying how great the renders of most Android Wear watches looked when they were announced but were very disappointing in real life and was wondering if the Tag smartwatch would suffer the same fate.

It's pretty obvious it will cost a lot more. :confused:
 
BBC has a small clip which includes quick glimpses at up and coming smart watches from Breitling, Bulgari, Tissot among others.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32117444

I have to say, for me, none of these seem very compelling. I really don't see a need, or even a want for any of the added smart functions to be on my wrist.

Anyway, we have a first, quick glimpse into what some manufacturers are planning.
 
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